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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
djjd62
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2016 02:24 pm
i prefer my fascism unleavened
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jun, 2016 02:29 pm
@roger,
Well, yeah, but since the clock doesn't work, I only know when the times comes that it's right by looking at my watch.

As a result, I haven't been on time for anything in years.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 02:28 am
The infantry is on the way! The people are pushing back against anti-Democratic neoliberalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/02/democracy-tarnished-brand-desperate-need-reinvention
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 06:07 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
I haven't bothered to wind the cuckoo clock in my living room for quite awhile. Now it's only right twice a day.


Not only is it right twice a day but its keeping its mouth shut about it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 21 Aug, 2016 06:48 am
Native Americans are fighting for clean water tables, along with other Americans whose water is threatened by moneyed interests.

Why so little coverage? Is the Obama administration as calculating as effective at controlling the media as the DNC?

How can we support Native Americans' fight against the US contaminating lands we supposedly gave them?

By the way, consider what your opinion would be on this subject if the president leading this raid on protected lands was a Republican.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-02-19/native-american-tribes-unite-fight-keystone-pipeline-and-government-disrespect
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 23 Aug, 2016 05:21 am
Hillary and Trump and the ruin of America: http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/clinton_and_trump_are_rich_and_that_could_be_a_problem_for_america_20160821
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bgg6006
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2016 08:47 am
@Lash,
You have every right to despise our present course. We are at this point very detached from Constitutional and Hellenistic Democracy. Even Italian Fascism / socialism in theory makes more sense than this Industrial / Financial totalitarianism apperatus. Bernie Sanders was in my view the answer or the beginning of the change we desperately need. His refusal to enter as an independent securing the democratic vote already exhibited with the added independent vote which would have added to his following in the election, only displays the power of the present Feudal Lords in this de-railed nation. In short, it's our own fault. We have to advocate an interracial 50 million man march to DC and camp out if necessary in Gandhi fashion if we are to start go anywhere with this from now on. In all honesty anything else is masturbation.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2016 01:24 pm
@bgg6006,
What in the world are you talking about? I understood every word, but can't quite make it come together.
Blickers
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2016 09:20 am
@roger,
He's basically saying that Bernie should have run as an independent, from where he would get all the Democrats and Independents to vote for him. And the reason Bernie didn't do this is that our society is run by evil men behind the scenes and they made Bernie run as a Democrat.

You spend time on YouTube, you get to understand conspiracy-speak.
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bgg6006
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2016 10:07 am
@roger,
We lost our democracy.
Bernie Sanders dropped because he was given no choice by those in power.
If we can't do anything besides chatting web sites, nothing will change.
Elementary,
wishing you luck
sincerily

RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2016 08:20 pm
@bgg6006,
You do realize that a majority of voting citizens voted for Hillary and not for Bernie. How do you equate Bernie losing the vote with those in power forcing Bernie to drop out?
Lash
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2016 09:32 pm
@RABEL222,
The DNC, crooked Hillary and media outlets cheated to make it appear that Bernie lost.

Keep up!
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2016 09:49 pm
Right now all decisions are made by big money and big money is weaving a net across the globe because controlling the wealth and power in the USA alone is not definitive enough.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2016 05:19 pm
@Lash,
Wow. A guy who was never anything but a socialist insisting on running as a democrat not getting the Democrates who have profited from Hillary financial dinners and from her personally endorsing them refusing to back a guy who never did anything for them for 40 years but knock them. Who would have thought that they felt an obligation to Hillary?
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 01:17 am
@RABEL222,
Unintelligible.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 09:25 am
@RABEL222,
That.s a win with an astralix. Bernie arguably had more supporters than Hillary - he had millions of voters not "qualified" to vote a Democratic primary. If primaries were open or if American Elections were more than a two party race regardless of allowing third parties to run, he may have well won the nomination and general election.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 09:34 am
@RABEL222,
That was harsh, dark, a tad excessive.

What do you make of tRump's having donated hundreds of thousands to Big Dog and Hillary???

He claims he got what he paid for.

Bernie has been no do nothing in the Senate. He's also voted with the Party more than an awful lot of Democrats. At least 95% of the time.

Argue with Lash all you want - she certainly offers all sorts of ample opportunity but you're over board on Bernie. He supports Hillary strongly and also supports financially and with his time a lot of Democratic candidates all over the country. He certainly excoriated Jill Stein who is a genuine Socialist - got a membership card and everything.

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Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 09:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote Bobsal:
Quote:
Bernie arguably had more supporters than Hillary - he had millions of voters not "qualified" to vote a Democratic primary. If primaries were open or if American Elections were more than a two party race regardless of allowing third parties to run, he may have well won the nomination and general election.

I think that if all the primaries were "open" primaries-that is, the primary voter can just go down and vote in the primary without pre-registering as a member of the party-then Bernie might well have gotten more votes in the primaries. As to the 15% of the vote that goes to party leaders, we don't know if Bernie's victory in the primaries, (if he would have won that), would have been enough to "flip" the party leaders over to him. Starting out, there was pressure on the party leaders to vote for Hillary because of all the time she had worked for the Democratic Party. If the primaries were all "open" and Bernie won the popular vote in the primaries, there would have been some pressure for them to go with the will of the primary voters and "flip" over to Bernie.

Maybe yes, maybe no. And I am not sure that "open" primaries are necessarily a good thing. However, it is conceivable that under those rules, Bernie might have taken the nomination-he had a much, much stronger run than anyone expected.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 09:59 am
@Blickers,
Not claiming a win, claiming a (*).

In the end a lot of people get NO voice in our primary system. We have two parties vested in that fact.

Our elections are not set up for three parties or more except to spoil an election. If we had true third party elections we'd have runoffs on any election short of a 51% vote for one candidate. Also: "none of the above" would need to be a choice on every office ballot.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sun 18 Sep, 2016 05:20 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
So why dident he run as an independent so ALL his supporters could vote for him? And most of the pollsters gave Hillary the best chance from the start. He had rabid supporters who were young and noisy while the majority of people just kept their mouths shut and voted when they could. And Bernie's people kept the majority vote away when they could which is why Bernie dident do so well when everyone got to vote rather than just the mobile collage kids.
 

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