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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2016 05:14 pm
@RABEL222,
Because we are a two party system, why hand tRump a Presidency with less than half the vote and a bloodbath in the Democratic party? Bernie is a more that just about running.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2016 08:20 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
We have two other people running as independent. I am not knocking Bernie but I still think that while he had some good ideas he couldent have controlled the Democrats in congress and certainly not even one republican. His would have been a wasted presidency just as most of Obama's has been since the republicans have controlled congress. We need a democratic president to change the Supreme Court and go for a democratic house to match the democratic senate.
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bgg6006
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2016 10:44 am
@RABEL222,
Hillary won the primary, 27 states circa to bernies 22? some Hillary won states were not by the people but by super delegates (whatever that means) and in the primary independents could not vote for Bernie. In the election if he chose to run as independent he could have kept the almost 47% democrat vote which he obviously had attained plus the independent which would have gotten him over the top. (no super delegates in the pres. election) He was also the only stable / non crook running with a knowledge of govt. and running for OUR best interest not the financial lords who run it now.
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2016 01:47 pm
@bgg6006,
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Hillary won the primary, 27 states circa to bernies 22? some Hillary won states were not by the people but by super delegates (whatever that means)

I don't believe Hillary won any states by superdelegate vote after losing the primary. Regardless, that is the way it is set up.

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in the primary independents could not vote for Bernie.
So what? Do you think you have a constitutional right to vote in a party's primary even though you are not a member? You don't. You have a constitutional right to vote in November, to choose among various parties' candidates or write in your candidate. For a long time, all states required primary voters to register as a member of the party before going to the polls to vote in a primary. Only recently have SOME states allowed independents to vote in a party's primary. Bernie voters have no right to complain about being "shut out" from the polls, the primary system has always worked like this.

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(no super delegates in the pres. election)
Hillary didn't need them. Get over it.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2016 08:58 pm
I believe Sanders chose to run in the Democrat primary because he judged, correctly, that he could get more attention filling a need already recognized by the Democrats to create the illusion that Hillary had some competition and was not merely the crowned successor. I suspect that both the party and Bernie himself were surprised by the result, One could easily see the deference he initially showed Hillary in his campaign. It was only after the Bernie excitement arose that he became seriously combative, only to find at the conclusion that the party would not allow anything other than the planned outcome, and at the end he was simply set aside.

As to the basic proposition of this thread, I am a bit confused with the references to totalitarianism and control of most aspects of peoples lives by government. This is indeed the stuff of radical Progressives who are quite sure that they alone know better than we how to organize our lives and indeed hasve a plan to do just that. Free market capitalism and unfettered individual initiative are the perfect antidotes to that.

It appears that too many have already forgotten the lamentable history of 20th century socialism, whether Soviet, from Mao's little book, or bombastic dictators like Castro. Sadly some of it continues under Bolivarian Socialism and the thug/idiot Maduro. Apparently some think the remedy for slavery is a more refined set of chains. Freedom is much better ! Orwell nailed it in his novel 1984, but sadly few read it anymore.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Mon 17 Oct, 2016 02:34 pm
@Lash,
It's called entropy. From the early Republic to today, things become less organized. Did anyone ever believe that all the diverse opinions on everything would result in greater cohesion? Look at history is the Old World. We're just starting to feel our oats, so to speak. Winning WWII might have gone to our heads.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Oct, 2016 02:44 am
Private sector companies enable more efficient spying on you.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/23/endace-mass-surveillance-gchq-governments/
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Oct, 2016 02:46 am
American arrested on her own property after the government steals it through the courts.

http://theindigenouspeople.com/2016/10/21/iowa-woman-gets-arrested-on-her-own-property-after-dapl-pipeline-steals-her-farm/
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 23 Oct, 2016 07:41 am
PSA and creepy factoid. Somebody's watching you.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/12/19/webcam_security_never_leave_it_uncovered_if_you_aren_t_using_it.html
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 05:32 am
AT&T sells your private calls for profit.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/25/at-t-is-spying-on-americans-for-profit.html
Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 05:43 am
@Lash,
I was wondering why they\'ve been hiring a lot of Big Data analysts lately.
Lash
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 05:45 am
@Brand X,
I\'m so surprised at the gravity of privacy loss and how completely helpless average people seem to be against it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 26 Oct, 2016 07:35 am
I really think this nutty movement to be all things to all people is a gross invasion of privacy for many college students -- oddly moreso for the ones who the movement was designed to support.

State your preferred gender -- in class to strangers as an icebreaker?? Who's running this show?

What happens to people who want no part of it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/opinion/pronoun-privilege.html?WT.mc_id=2016-KWP-AUD_DEV&WT.mc_ev=click&ad-keywords=AUDDEVREMARK&kwp_0=239633&kwp_4=910716&kwp_1=442259&_r=0
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 7 Nov, 2016 04:41 am
Another chip taken from democracy.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/exit-polls-under-siege-230847
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mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 09:00 am
@Lash,
Do you truly want answers that will make your brain face reality, Lash?

Lash
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 09:09 am
@mark noble,
I suppose you are endowed with this specific reality?

Yes, my brain and I listen raptly!
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 09:10 am
I have been reading through the links from newest to old. Will be back later.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 09:16 am
@Lash,
I would suggest that 96.5%, 7.1 billion people are 'endowed' with the 'I'm not a brainwashed, Frikkin idiot' syndrome - But you're not in that demograph - For a reason.
After your 'pedantic' post - You belong exactly where you are.
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 08:52 pm
Oh hell!

http://m.truthdig.com/report/item/elizabeth_warren_demands_investigation_into_president_obamas_20160915#at_pco=wnm-1.0&at_si=5826833fc8a63053&at_ab=per-2&at_pos=0&at_tot=1

Warren calls for investigation into Obama's failure to jail banksters.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 11 Nov, 2016 09:47 pm
@Lash,
Ive felt since 2003 that the media had turned from reporting the news to subtle dictating the news and how you should feel about it. When I spoke about this with my older friends they adimately stated its been this way far longer than I have taken note of it.

Ive had to adopt a skeptical of every story stance and read between the lines attitude but eventually had to stop giving any major news outlet my attention.

The government has fully embraced the power media has over highlighting corrupt political actions and how to side step them when its not favorable.

The only real way to know the whole story is to take stories from many sources. But you still never get the full scope. Todays journalists dont care about the details but rather how can the story be used for political leverage.

I dont think there is any way to save american news media. Not from within and it wont fix itself under any pressure. The only real thing you can hope for is to have more insiders reveal the corruption at the risk of being deemed a criminal.
 

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