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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:20 am
@Lash,
I've spoken to plenty of genuine Sanders supporters on other forums. They're concerned about the direction Trump is taking America in. They hardly give Clinton a second thought. Trump supporters keep banging on about Clinton all the time.

Bet my Latin's better than yours, I actually studied it.
farmerman
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:21 am
@izzythepush,
Im not doing anything of the sort(denial of responsibility), Im just reminding you of the Pharisee /Publican **** that youre engaged in.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:24 am
@farmerman,
In order to prove there's no difference why not find a similar group of people to the Sandy Hook parents who are receiving death threats because of something David Icke said.

Donald Trump believes Alex Jones and his supporters aren't far behind.

izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:26 am
@farmerman,
What the hell does Pharisee/Publican **** mean? It's your country, it's about time you acted like a grown up and took responsibility.
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Lash
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:28 am
@izzythepush,
Our experiences with Sanders supporters are different.

I'm sure you know Latin words better than I do. Your shocking degree of denial about the meaning is what gives me the upper hand. 🤓
izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:31 am
@Lash,
You keep saying that, despite your face dripping with egg.

Nobody believes your nonsense about being a Sanders supporter. I know you're too committed to the lie to back down now, but don't think you're fooling anyone other than yourself.
Olivier5
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 09:40 am
@izzythepush,
That one cartoon was a bit extreme, yes. But blasphemy can indeed help believers. A cartoon poking fun at Jesus can be comforting for some Christians by helping them distance themselves from their holy figures, and not take religion so seriously. There's a reason why blasphemy is funny: because most of times religion is a dead-serious business, bordering on gloomy and sad.
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Lash
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:03 am
@izzythepush,
Ad hominem
BillW
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:10 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
After all, it's only a game, and they are players only, they get paid for playing in the stadium, not so for making the ridiculous trying to change the American culture with such a childish behavior.


What you did to the Irish for 100+ years was abominable - men, women and children.....

There is always a tit for a tat, don't go there; England and all of Europe has a much longer and more violent history to 'lesser" humans!
ehBeth
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:23 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

the undeniable facts are that Icke is believed just like Jones. I see no damn differences.


not even close
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ehBeth
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:28 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I've spoken to plenty of genuine Sanders supporters on other forums. They're concerned about the direction Trump is taking America in. They hardly give Clinton a second thought. Trump supporters keep banging on about Clinton all the time.


most Sanders supporters would have preferred Clinton rather than #45 as president

it is indeed supporters of #45 who keep throwing Clinton into the conversation

it is the instruction provided by rw media - they want the rw to keep banging the Clinton drum
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izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:34 am
@BillW,
Who are you quoting?

Are you saying that because we treated the Irish badly you should be allowed to commit genocide (again,) because that's what is sounds like.

British Irish relations are fine today btw.
izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 10:39 am
@Lash,
I do know more Latin than you.
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BillW
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 11:24 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Who are you quoting?

Are you saying that because we treated the Irish badly you should be allowed to commit genocide (again,) because that's what is sounds like.

British Irish relations are fine today btw.


Strawman, try again!
izzythepush
 
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Mon 25 Sep, 2017 12:05 pm
@BillW,
Alright I will. You're quoting your mate Cameronleon. This is a thread about fascism in America with a subtopic of freedom of speech. You decided not to talk about any of that, but instead to attack me just because I'm English. That makes personally responsible for the horrors of the British Empire, despite not having been born at the time and having some Irish ancestors.

I've met your type of irish American before whose Anglophobic bigotry is ingrained from birth. There's no reasoning with you, not that I would want to waste my time justifying my existence to a bigot anyway.

I'll leave you to your mate Cameronleon, you're on ignore.
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Lash
 
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Fri 29 Sep, 2017 06:25 am
Update on the Colin Kaepernick NFL protest: the backlash is substantial.

Ticket sales are down 17%.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/nfl-ticket-sales-plummet-179/article/2635955
Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:04 am
@Lash,
That's your opinion via that conservative website.

However, according to a report in Bloomberg, published three hours lalter (sic!) than Lash's source, Fans Still Want NFL Tickets, Despite What President Trump Says
Quote:
Ticket sales for this weekend’s games are very much like those in Weeks 2 and 3, according to an analysis of resale data by SeatGeek. Median prices for games this weekend are about 8 percent higher than they were for last weekend’s games. Sales volume is flat.

"We have not seen a noticeable net impact on the demand for NFL tickets, one way or the other," said SeatGeek content analyst Chris Leyden. "This does not mean there has been no impact, but rather that any sort of boycott impact has been evened out by the added publicity and support for the sport."
Setanta
 
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Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:15 am
The Washington Examiner . . . Ah-hahahahahahahahahahaha . . .

Fair and balanced, right?

Ah-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha . . .
revelette1
 
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Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:23 am
We are all snowflakes CNN

Quote:
Hey, snowflake.

Yeah, I'm talking to you.

Not just some college kids who flee "violent words" for safe spaces, but you, America. You've become so sensitive to any kind of protest, you no longer have the right to malign kids who seek shelter from your blizzard of hypocrisy.

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions is right about one thing -- freedom of speech is under attack. This is what he said the other day at Georgetown University. "The American University was once the center of academic freedom," he said. "But it is transforming into an echo chamber of political correctness ... a shelter for fragile egos."

Sessions threatened to use the Justice Department to make sure those fragile egos don't win. He wants universities to quit corralling students into tiny "free speech zones," defined campus spaces for potentially provocative dialogue, and allow them to have a voice on the biggest stage possible -- the entire campus. Snowflakes be damned!

Sorry to break it to you, Mr. Sessions, but the situation is a bit more complicated. We are a nation of "fragile egos." We -- on both sides of the aisle -- are uncomfortable with protest of any kind of opposing thought, unless it's done quietly so we can't hear it.

It is your right to protest racial inequality, but don't do it during the national anthem at a football game being broadcast on national television. You're ruining the game before it's even begun.

Protest police brutality, but do it quietly, in controlled spaces, so you don't disrupt traffic.

According to The Washington Post, lawmakers in 18 states have introduced legislation to curb mass protests. The bills increase penalties rightly for wearing masks and any potential violent behavior, but they also increase punishments for blocking highways and -- wait for it -- protect drivers who strike protesters with their cars.

Talk about snowflakes! Just run 'em down if they hurt your sensibilities.

The truth is many Americans have no idea what free speech involves. It allows for the expression of ideas from every corner of our great United States. It's uncomfortable, and it ought to be. It's what makes us grow; it's what makes us quintessentially American.

Some may like to poke fun at University of California at Berkeley, which has been a hot bed of recent free speech protests, for posting a website detailing the definition of free speech. But the truth is, we could all use a refresher.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Fri 29 Sep, 2017 07:28 am
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:
Fair and balanced, right?
I do like those fair and balanced quotes and sources! (They can so easily be disproved, which is a bit less fun, though.)
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