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Rising fascism in the US

 
 
blatham
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2022 09:47 am
@Walter Hinteler,
That's very interesting, Walter. I hadn't even considered how European auto markets might respond to all this. Thanks!

Just ran into this information in my morning reading courtesy of media scholar Jay Rosen:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fj5nS61UcAEpmoW?format=jpg&name=large

That appears to be drawn from the final link (to the Wall Street Journal) in the piece following:

Quote:
Twitter’s risky plan to save its ads business

A month ago, when Elon Musk’s Twitter first set out to revamp the Twitter Blue subscription, workers at the company identified a problem. Musk had promised that subscribers to the $8-a-month service would see half as many ads as free users. But that would cost the company about $6 in ad revenue per user per month, according to internal estimates. Factor in Apple’s App Store fees — something Musk would later go briefly to war with the company over — and the new Blue promised to lose the company money.

The launch of Blue was quickly derailed by abuse of the new verification system and mass impersonation of brands, just as employees had predicted, and Twitter went back to the drawing board. After a series of delays, on Monday the company relaunched Blue for a second time. Once again, it promised subscribers that benefits will include soon seeing 50 percent fewer ads than regular users.

It’s a bold move for a company that has already been forced to offer advertisers huge concessions to prevent them from fleeing. But behind the scenes, Twitter has been working on a plan that executives hope will make Blue profitable – forcing all Twitter users to opt in to personalized ads in order to keep using the app, Platformer has learned.
Here


Quote:
Jay Rosen
@jayrosen_nyu
24m
I said I would go down with this ship — meaning stick around until the implosion came — but now I can see that's going to be impossible.






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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2022 09:54 am
@blatham,
Conspiracy theories wrapped in conspiracy theories
Quote:
As could have been predicted, Fox News is fully onboard with Elon Musk’s effort to cast pre-Musk Twitter as a cesspool of left-leaning machinations. Since Musk began pairing with right-leaning writers to plunk internal documents from the company into a stew of unproven allegations, Fox News and Fox Business have mentioned the efforts of two of those writers more than 1,000 times. CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg and CNBC, recognizing the limited scope of the revelations, have mentioned them 100 times — combined.
Mame
 
  3  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 09:58 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I don't even know why people are on Twitter. Or how they can be influenced by any tweets. Think for yourself!
blatham
 
  2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes. There are some parallel goals, for sure.

Just saw this smart historical take from my favorite Canadian reporter, Dan Gardner, on what Musk has done to his reputation in the last few months...
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Which is pretty much what Henry Ford did to himself and Ford when he bought a newspaper to promote his views.
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hightor
 
  4  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:13 am
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There were virologists who spoke up early in the pandemic and were then silenced. (...) those virologists who are still living are speaking out again.

Were they bumped off or something? How were they "silenced"? And, more importantly, who exactly were they?

Here's an impeccable source, maybe some of these guys?

12 Virologists Are Blacklisted, Censored And Banned From Speaking On Any Mass Media About Covid-19 ‘Vaccines’, Pandemics, Or Viruses

Here's another headline, from a more credible source:

12 prominent people opposed to vaccines are responsible for two-thirds of anti-vaccine content online: report

Quote:
They’ve been dubbed the “Disinformation Dozen”: 12 individuals or organizations are tied to up to 65 percent of anti-vaccine content circulating on major social media networking sites, according to an analysis of popular anti-vaccine content on Facebook and Twitter.

“Disinformation has become a direct threat to public health,” said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH), which released the report in partnership with the Anti-Vax Watch, in a release. “In the midst of a global pandemic, the Anti-Vaccine Industry has executed a targeted campaign to mislead Americans about the safety of the COVID-19 vaccines. Social media is enabling anti-vaxxers to recruit millions of Americans and indoctrinate them with fear and doubt. If Big Tech companies don’t act now, the pandemic will be prolonged, and more lives will be lost.” 

The report accuses Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — who was banned from Instagram last month — Joseph Mercola, Ty and Charlene Bollinger — whose Twitter accounts were briefly suspended at the beginning of the pandemic — Sherri Tenpenny, Rizza Islam, Rashid Buttar, Erin Elizabeth, Sayer Ji, Kelly Brogan, Christiane Northrup, Ben Tapper and Kevin Jenkins of spreading disinformation and claims that their social media accounts “have repeatedly violated Facebook and Twitter’s terms of service agreements.” And the CCDH has receipts — the report is full of screenshots of “example violations” that range from misleading to antisemitic. 

Several of these users have responded online, calling the report a “hitlist” and accusing the CCDH of trying to “control us with tricks & lies.” 

NEW:

Anti-vaxxers are instructing their followers to “give CCDH a piece of your mind.”

Why? Because our campaign to get anti-vaccine propagandists off social media is working.

Please help defeat dangerous anti-vaxx lies by supporting our campaign https://t.co/esPdibPMUi pic.twitter.com/7xVy6PUzuT


— Center for Countering Digital Hate (@CCDHate) March 19, 2021

 But the CCDH said the responses were only proof that their “campaign to get anti-vaccine propagandists off social media is working.” The timing of the report also coincides with a joint hearing in Congress that will put Google CEO Sundar Pichai, Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg back in the hot seat over the spread of misinformation on their platforms, this time for its role in the insurrection on the United States Capitol in January. 

A spokesperson for Twitter noted that the platform has removed over 20,000 posts from the platform and challenged nearly 12 million accounts under its coronavirus misinformation policy.

“We will not take action on every instance of misinformation. In order for content related to COVID-19 to be labeled or removed under this policy, it must: advance a claim of fact, expressed in definitive terms; be demonstrably false or misleading, based on widely available, authoritative sources; and be likely to impact public safety or cause serious harm,” they explained.

Facebook spokesperson Kevin McAlister told The Hill that the platform has “already taken action against some of the groups in this report.”

“Since research shows that the best way to combat vaccine hesitancy is to connect people to reliable information from health experts, we’ve also connected over 2 billion people to resources from health authorities, including through our COVID-19 Information Center,” he added. 

Public health officials have warned against misinformation spread by the anti-vaccine movement, which began even before COVID-19 vaccines had been developed and grown online amid mixed messages from officials.   

“This week, the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter and Google will appear before the U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee to discuss the role of social media in the spread of disinformation,” Ahmed said in the release. “Members of the committee must use this opportunity to hold these companies accountable and urge them to follow through with their commitments to crack down on life-threatening disinformation. A clear and immediate way to stop the spread of anti-vaccine messages is to remove the Disinformation Dozen from their platforms.” 


Both of these accounts are from 2021. Searching the names doesn't reveal any of them as being anything more than anti-vaccination conspiracy theorists. However, they have a right to promote their views and I'm sure they would be welcome on Rumble, Parler, or 4chan.


blatham
 
  2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:18 am
@Mame,
Quote:
I don't even know why people are on Twitter. Or how they can be influenced by any tweets. Think for yourself!

Let me suggest that you have a faulty notion of Twitter, Mame. I'm not sure what you imagine the site is like or why you imagine it that way.

I've been on the site for fifteen plus years and have found it invaluable. I follow hundreds of very smart and educated people (and publications and artists and subject areas of my interest such as archaeology) and am thus pointed by them to publications and ideas which I'd surely not discover otherwise.

There is a lot of garbage on the site but as I don't follow such members and as I almost never read comments, that's all as irrelevant as all the conversations going on at any time between drunk assholes in pubs around the world. Further, there's a lot of garbage here on our site as well.
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blatham
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:25 am
@hightor,
Lash may be referring as well to this highly respected doctor...
Quote:
After social media companies removed a viral video showing doctors spreading unsubstantiated information about the novel coronavirus, a phrase inspired by one doctor’s past claims began trending on Twitter: demon sperm. It turns out Stella Immanuel has a history of making particularly outlandish statements — including that the uterine disorder endometriosis is caused by sex with demons that takes place in dreams.
more on demon sperm lady here

But I do wish my dreams were that much fun.
Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:34 am
@blatham,
Notice how true believers react when they’re beliefs are questioned.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11527795/Virologist-funded-Wuhan-lab-shares-videos-cave-filled-2-5m-bats.html

Excerpt:

Virologist who funded Wuhan lab, then tried to silence COVID leak claims proudly shares videos of himself in Thai bat cave with 2.5 million of the animals which harbor pathogen that's believed to have sparked pandemic

By Alex Oliveira For Dailymail.Com
01:32 EST 12 Dec 2022 , updated 22:08 EST 12 Dec 2022

Virologist Dr. Peter Daszak brazenly posted videos of himself and his research team standing in the midst of swarms of bats in Thailand this week

Daszak's charity EcoHealth Alliance was found to have funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology's research which some believe started the pandemic

Daszak has been accused of bullying other scientists into disavowing theories that COVID-19 was leaked from a lab as a conspiracy theory
(and slapping the ‘conspiracy theory’ label on the most reasonable theory of how the pandemic started is in evidence all across social media, the mainstream news, and on this thread.)

Despite Daszak's ties with the Wuhan lab, EcoHealth Alliance was awarded over half a million dollars this fall to conduct viral research on bats

A virologist who funded the Wuhan lab at the center of COVID leak claims - and then allegedly tried to 'bully' that theory away - has proudly filmed himself inside a bat-filled cave and handling the creatures for his research.
_________________



Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:38 am
https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/emails-reveal-suspected-covid-leaked-from-a-wuhan-lab-then-censored-themselves/

Emails reveal scientists suspected COVID leaked from Wuhan lab – then quickly censored themselves

By Nicholas Wade
January 24, 2022 8:19pm Updated

From almost the moment the COVID-19 pandemic broke out in the Chinese city of Wuhan, the medical-research establishment in Washington and London insisted that the virus had emerged naturally. Only conspiracy theorists, they said, would give credence to the idea that the virus had escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

Now, a string of unearthed emails — the most recent being a batch viewed by the House Oversight and Reform Committee and referred to in its Jan. 11 letter — is making it seem increasingly likely that there was, in fact, a conspiracy, its aim being to suppress the notion that the virus had emerged from research funded by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), headed by Anthony Fauci.

Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 10:48 am
The Democrats have done a fantastic job convincing their minions that the truth is a conspiracy theory and further, that those minions needed to do to this wrong-headed, illogical PR for them as their valiant tribal duty to somehow fight…something? Trump?

Once someone is convinced of something, even when they’re shown conclusive proof, it’s practically impossible for them to admit to themselves or others that they were wrong.

Nothing any of you say will change the reality of the facts.

Of course it leaked from the place in Wuhan where they were weaponizing it.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:10 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
The Democrats have done a fantastic job convincing their minions that the truth is a conspiracy theory and further, that those minions needed to do to this wrong-headed, illogical PR for them as their valiant tribal duty to somehow fight…something? Trump?
Not only the U.S. Democrats did such, conservatives, social democrats, socialists worldwide joined them.

Lash wrote:
Nothing any of you say will change the reality of the facts.
des- lat. de- "off, away, away, down" and information[ from lat. īnformātio "information, notification" or īnformare "to educate, enable, teach" =

DESINFORMATION.
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Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:11 am
One of the few remaining real ones Briahna Joy Gray illustrates how releasing the truth about mass censorship was met with complete smears, lies, and threats to scientists, journalists, and regular people who told the truth or questioned the lame government cover up.

https://youtu.be/Acxt2hvV-N4
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Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:17 am
@Lash,
Wade already published similar in Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists in May 2021.
Already at that time Wade's claims about the origin of COVID-19 were at odds with the view among scientists.
Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:26 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yet, you said nothing about that?

What do you think about Merkel’s recent public comments about Minsk II regarding the West’s role in the Ukraine/ Russian war in Die Zeit?
izzythepush
 
  4  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:31 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Simple rule of thumb, if Lash is saying it, you know it's bullshit.

If you look at how the Covid situation has played out China's conspiracy theory is more believable.

Look at how successful vaccination has been in the West compared to the disastrous way China has dealt with it.

It's almost as if the virus was created in Fort Detrick by the Americans who already had a vaccine.

Both theories are bollocks, but Detrick makes a lot more sense.

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Lash
 
  -2  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:36 am
@Walter Hinteler,
A pertinent quote from Walter’s article (behavior seen in national media and on this site):

“We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” a group of virologists and others wrote in the Lancet on February 19, 2020, when it was really far too soon for anyone to be sure what had happened. Scientists “overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife,” they said, with a stirring rallying call for readers to stand with Chinese colleagues on the frontline of fighting the disease.

_______________


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blatham
 
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Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:40 am
@Lash,
Quote:
Re: blatham (Post 7288813)
Notice how true believers react when they’re beliefs are questioned.

We all thank you for your critiques of the credibility of mainstream media - followed by your links to the right wing tabloids Daily Mail and the NY Post. You're a true scholar.
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 11:56 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
What do you think about Merkel’s recent public comments about Minsk II regarding the West’s role in the Ukraine/ Russian war in Die Zeit?
I don't like our conservatives - and Merkel is a member of those, was head of the party from 2000 till 2018. But she was still one of the more 'pleasant' representatives in my opinion.

She said in Die Zeit (translated from the original):
I considered the initiation of a NATO accession of Ukraine and Georgia, which was discussed in 2008, to be wrong. Neither country had the necessary preconditions, nor had we thought through what the consequences of such a decision would have been, both in terms of Russia's actions against Georgia and Ukraine and in terms of Nato and its rules of engagement. And the Minsk Agreement of 2014 was an attempt to give Ukraine time.

It has also used this time to become stronger, as can be seen today. The Ukraine of 2014/15 is not the Ukraine of today. As we saw in the battle for Debaltseve at the beginning of 2015, Putin could have easily overrun it then. And I very much doubt that the Nato countries could have done as much then as they are doing now to help Ukraine.


I had similar thoughts.
Walter Hinteler
 
  5  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 12:07 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The report is now published in English by Der Spiegel as well:

Musk Destroys Tesla Image in Germany.

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Lash
 
  -1  
Wed 14 Dec, 2022 12:11 pm
@blatham,
The mainstream media is distrusted among all except your diminishing true believers ilk.

Do you refute the content?
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