Rising fascism in the US

All right, then.

What leads you to suspect Russia might invade the EU?

Walter, I think the terms misinformation and disinformation and who gets to decide what falls into those categories, and how those found guilty of those imaginary speech infractions are ‘punished’ will lead us right back to another form of Holocaust.

This is why I agitate for the freest speech possible.
This is why I started this thread.
This neighbor vs neighbor and online censure due to the vaxxed or not vaxxed argument ramped up a chilling effect on speech. How you voted also has people questioning and accusing each other. Where did Covid originate and related conversations make people suspect.

More important than that, my government announced months ago that they were adding the Department of Misinformation or some such ridiculously named excuse for deepening their infiltration into the privacy of citizens, but because it was widely rebuked —due to the fact that it’s straight out of the most prescient dystopian novel of all time— Biden’s administration retracted it.

But, they’re still doing it.

The horror I thought would happen in the future is happening now.

I’d like people to see it and reject it.

I thought we said, ‘Never again.’

My point is democracy is being actively wrecked by those in power—not those talking about them.

What if it is the government engaging in misinformation? This too can lead to a holocaust. What if it is a powerful media group with an agenda that engages in misinformation?

Quite frankly, I think:
- too many people pass on what they hear as fact
- governments are too willing to engage in misinformation
- on some issues, multiple governments will engage in the same misinformation campaign (lead up to the Iraq war is a perfect example)
- media are too willing to play to population bias, and as a consequence, leave out vital bits of information in order to play to the population bias (one missing bit of information can give the entirely wrong impression as to the right & wrong of an event)
- many websites have an agenda, and tailor their reporting to their audience

All of this is to say, any of these groups can have a profound influence on outcomes within our world. Censorship is a double edged sword. I would say there should be balanced censorship...but some governments are going too far at the moment (even while they happily engage in misinformation to start wars).

I agree with everything you said. I’m just much more concerned about governments’ misinformation than people’s.

I also believe that governments create or exacerbate crises to clamp down more on privacy and population manipulation under the auspices of ‘security’.

And while I’m editing the bejesus out of this post, I ALSO think third parties are killed in their cribs by the duopoly because a duopoly goes a LONG WAY in enlisting citizens to bicker and war against one another and actually defend their favorite political criminals — giving them free rein to do whatever they please while citizens suffer.

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Their history of invading their neighbors.

Their pretty ominous threats and behavior towards some EU nations.

There is no left in the US.
https://youtu.be/wyFHtjPTr78

What about people who make hemp jewelry in nudist communes?

And what about old women with hippie hair wearing peace signs who dance by themselves at fringe festivals?

And, of course, there's Antifa.

Obviously, according to Bobsal, they’re CONSERVATIVE GREENS.

Bernie and the ‘progressive squad’ were too conservative to press for a peaceful solution to the war, no left in the US.

Congratulations.

Violence is a conservative enterprise.

That’s a style choice, not a political movement or a lefty vote.
Do like the tie dye, though.

(trying to visualize ’hippie hair’ and ‘fringe festivals’)

That's not what conservatives say, though – Jan 6 was a peaceful occurrence!

I think that's an overly restrictive way of identifying the "left". Pacifism is associated with the religious left and in times like this, when realpolitik constrains the normally anti-capitalist leftist from a strictly anti-militarist stance don't look to worldly progressives when you are really seeking a moral high ground.

You accept that?

That sounds like bullshit.

Peace is lefty; war is righty.

Period.

This is when I broke with Bernie.
There is 0 lefty organization in America.
You know when you know.

I’m just out of patience with people.

FOIA demands uncover incompetence at the ******* Wuhan clinic—and everyone should be demanding an accounting of exactly what happened.

The eyebrow woman in the segment can’t seem to put a string of meaningful words together until a redirection from Briahna Gray Joy at approx minute 3:50.

There’s nothing to stop it from happening again.

https://youtu.be/W5gNn5c9kzo

Wuhan

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/03/08/josh-rogin-chaos-under-heaven-wuhan-lab-book-excerpt-474322

In 2018, Diplomats Warned of Risky Coronavirus Experiments in a Wuhan Lab. No One Listened.