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The Case For Biden

 
 
RABEL222
 
  1  
Thu 4 Apr, 2019 06:46 pm
@Lash,
In the days before the me too thing pressing the flesh was a political procedure. Shaking hands, putting ones hands on the shoulder ect. Judging acts that were performed then by today's standards is unfair. He acknowledged he made a mistake by today's standards, so get off his ass. If you want to condemn someone how about the p****y grabber in the white house?
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Thu 4 Apr, 2019 07:00 pm
@RABEL222,
Ok, that made me laugh. I'm not as old as I feel some days.

Here's the thing...

If the bar is set that low that not being grabbed in the private parts makes an extraordinary example of a presidential candidate, then we're really need to re-think what the hell we stand for. Or sit. Or kneel. Whatever...

A poster said that the left rages, the right rages and the middle just gets...nothing. So, I ask you, if Biden does decide to run, how is he really going to fare in this political climate?

I think Biden's decision to cave in to Clinton's bid in 2016 was his political downfall. He had a shot, he acquiesced and he needs to do that again. His time is over.

We've moved on. Well, some of us have.

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Lash
 
  -1  
Thu 4 Apr, 2019 07:07 pm
@RABEL222,
I’ll say what I please when I please. You and creepy Biden aren’t the boss of me, old man.

Biden kisses and sniffs women and young girls and most of them are creeped out by it.

If you have footage of him treating men this way, I’ll change my mind about how sexist it is, creep enabler.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Thu 4 Apr, 2019 07:11 pm
If Biden were a Republican, he would be a baby eating monster by now.
maporsche
 
  1  
Thu 4 Apr, 2019 11:22 pm
@edgarblythe,
If Bernie were ever a Democrat he’d be leading the field by 40 points by now.

But, he’s NOT.
RABEL222
 
  1  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 12:44 am
@Lash,
Why would a republican operative care about Biden touching a woman's shoulder when she doesn't care whether a p****y grabber is in the white house. And by all means vote however you want to.
Lash
 
  0  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 03:20 am
@maporsche,
He’s what democrats are supposed to be.
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Lash
 
  0  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 03:26 am
@RABEL222,
If Hillary Clinton hadn’t been as hated as she is, pussygate might’ve kept Trump out. This time, maybe your party won’t cheat the primary and the electable candidate will win.

PS dingdong, the electable candidate is Bernie ******* Sanders.

See if you can avoid ******* this one up.
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engineer
 
  3  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 06:39 am
This article captures what I see when I see the reactions to the Biden/Flores thing.

Quote:
Reading Lucy Flores’ account of her experience with Joe Biden, in which she described him putting his hands on her shoulders and kissing the back of her head just before she was to speak, I was keenly aware that I was supposed to find his conduct charming. I wanted to find it charming. Rationalizations rose up unbidden: Oh, calm down, I thought to myself, he’s just being affectionate. I imagined him as he might have imagined himself in that circumstance—a kindly man lending his protection to a young woman earlier in her career. I imagined him feeling proud of his generosity and goodness as he put his hands on her shoulders and kissed her head. Nothing predatory or malign about it. So yes: I felt mildly exasperated with Flores for making this an issue. This surprised me because I completely identified with what she described. I physically shuddered at the very idea of a strange man smelling and kissing my unwashed head. But a machine started up in my brain whose function it was to suppress that reaction. Neither shudder—hers or mine—was supposed to be part of the propriety calculus; it lived in the domain of flinches and squirms and private preferences it’s impolite to mention. Biden’s conduct was avuncular and public. It was well meant. As another woman told the Washington Post, similar unwelcome intimacy from Biden made her uncomfortable “even though it was intended as a compliment.” That his behavior made Lucy Flores want to disappear from her own campaign event—that the very idea of it happening to me made me writhe in sympathy with her—was somehow coequal to or less important than our own mannerly, socialized need to acknowledge Biden’s apparent good intentions.


Quote:
In BuzzFeed, Katherine Miller correctly observed a certain automaticity infecting our discussions of this incident. There are lazy formulas: Is Biden “canceled”? People say they “believe” Flores—but there’s little to doubt, since Biden has literally been filmed doing exactly what she describes. Belief here is standing in for the framework we use for survivors of sexual assault, one that doesn’t quite work. Biden defenders are offering refutations, saying, He and Flores were never alone! when she didn’t claim that they were. They are claiming close friendship with Biden, when those who have complained had no relationship with him at all. Miller writes that these reactions are so bizarrely out of step with the incident itself that they register a mismatch between the scripts we have available and the reality we’re trying to describe.
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edgarblythe
 
  -1  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 06:49 am
@maporsche,
If you knew what the **** you are talking about you would be dangerous.
DrewDad
 
  0  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 06:52 am
@neptuneblue,
Welcome, comrade.
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Setanta
 
  2  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 06:55 am
I note that Lash, the perennial conservative Republican, refers to the Democrats as "your party." Not her party, of course.
maporsche
 
  1  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 07:41 am
@edgarblythe,
Unprompted personal attack....again.
edgarblythe
 
  0  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 07:59 am
@maporsche,
If you want to be a **** about everything I post every day I will be one also.
maporsche
 
  1  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 08:00 am
@edgarblythe,
I would love an thoughtful response to my post. If you think I'm wrong, then let's discuss why.

I don't understand why you continue to make it personal though edgar. Especially when you seem to hate when people do that to you.

You can have the last word.
revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 09:22 am
@Lash,
I am not denying the women who have spoken of their feelings when Biden invaded their personal space weren't creeped out by Biden's actions and they have every right to be creeped out by it. What I have been trying to say is, Biden was simply not enlightened by women's feelings of personal space. It seems the younger women were more creeped out than the older ones and I truly think it is a generational thing. I don't think it is disqualifying and neither did some of the women or at least one woman who have reported their feelings .I think Biden should able to get over this as he didn't mean anything bad by his actions whether they were in bad taste or not. If people don't want to vote for him for other reasons, or for this reason, that is of course their choice.
hightor
 
  4  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 09:34 am
@revelette1,
Quote:
It seems the younger women were more creeped out than the older ones and I truly think it is a generational thing.

Exactly. You get a gold star.
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Lash
 
  1  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 09:34 am
Biden’s admiring eulogy for Strom ‘Dixiecrat’ Thurmond may give Bidenists pause...
revelette1
 
  3  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 09:49 am
@Lash,
Yes that does; I do understand that people evolve and Biden must have over the years to have been Obama's vice president and close friend.

The burden of a 40-year career: Some of Joe Biden’s record doesn’t age well
edgarblythe
 
  0  
Fri 5 Apr, 2019 10:13 am
@maporsche,
You made it personal in 2016 and still can't seem to be civil. I am in fact making you and Snood the only political people I have on total ignore.
 

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