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The Case For Biden

 
 
oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 12:18 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
all false.

Progressives really really hate facts and reality, but no. Facts and reality are not all false.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 12:21 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
You are using appeal to authority wrong every time you use it.

No I'm not.


MontereyJack wrote:
and your facts and opinions" are merely your opinion of what are facts and opinions and it's flawed.

Progressives really really hate facts, but no. No matter how inconvenient facts are to progressives, facts are not opinions.
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 12:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump single-handedly destroyed our economy and health. His trade war and tariffs killed many jobs in our country. His ignorance of covid 19 resulted in over 440,000 dead Americans.

Don't be silly. The economy did great under Mr. Trump. It's the Democrats who are wrecking the economy.

And it's the Democrats who brought the virus to America by disrupting the government with a frivolous impeachment throughout the first month of the pandemic.


cicerone imposter wrote:
None of our allies trust Trump; first time in our country's history.

Many of our supposed allies, aren't actually our allies.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump told over 30,000 lies and mis-information according to fact checkers.

Progressives always call the truth a lie.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump has been impeached two times; first time in our country's history. Trump is facing many federal, state, local and civil crimes.

Outlawing the Democratic Party will prevent them from committing such abuses of power.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 12:30 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
From Mother Jones.
Quote:
Trump has offered state and federal prosecutors a buffet of options for criminal and civil charges. On the federal level, one of the most plausible crimes Trump could be charged with is obstruction of justice. In his two-part report on his Russia investigation, special counsel Robert Mueller all but laid out the case, chronicling Trump's assorted efforts to stymie the probe. The report also includes evidence suggesting that Trump may have perjured himself in written responses to questions from Mueller's team, though this claim is more difficult to prove. Mueller stopped short of concluding that Trump had committed a crime, but mostly because, as a sitting president, he was arguably immune from prosecution. But that protection no longer applies once he leaves office.

The Democrats have a history of framing innocent people for obstruction (note Scooter Libby). If we outlaw the party, that will prevent such abuses of power in the future.

The Democrats have also established with Bill Clinton's impeachment that presidential perjury and obstruction is a trivial crime worth only a slap on the wrist.
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oralloy
 
  -2  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 12:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Trump's trade war.
Quote:
Yahoo News: "Forecasting firm Moody's Analytics estimates that Trump's trade war with China has already reduced U.S. employment by 300,000 jobs, compared with likely employment levels absent the trade war."
"That's a combination of jobs eliminated by firms struggling with tariffs and other elements of the trade war, and jobs that would have been created but haven't because of reduced economic activity."

I suppose you'd rather just surrender and let our economy be destroyed??
MontereyJack
 
  0  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 04:11 pm
@oralloy,
which does not in any way answer moody's assessment of the deleterious effects of the trade war.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 06:45 pm
@MontereyJack,
You seriously believe Moody's has any credibility, after their involvement in the GFC scam?

Quote:
Moody's has agreed to pay nearly $US864 million ($1.1 billion) to settle federal and state claims it gave inflated ratings to risky mortgage investments in the years leading up to the global financial crisis.


source
MontereyJack
 
  1  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 07:13 pm
@Builder,
Have you showed that to NealNeaNeal who keeps blaming dems push for equitable mortgages for minorities for the meltdown of 2007 rather than the banks huge risky loans.
Builder
 
  -1  
Wed 10 Feb, 2021 08:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
I have no idea who that person is, but there's been several documentaries, clearly explaining the lead-up to the GFC, and who the major culprits were (though none were prosecuted, and Obama actually appointed some of them to his cabinet) . Best doco is called Inside Job, narrated by Matt Damon. A Sony production.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 01:25 am
@Builder,
Psst, you are a silly person.
roger
 
  3  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 01:33 am
@glitterbag,
I do not believe it is accidental.
Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 01:44 am
@roger,
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/23/untouchables-wall-street-prosecutions-obama

The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions
Glenn Greenwald

A new PBS Frontline report examines a profound failure of justice that should be causing serious social unrest

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/12/henhouse-meet-fox-wall-street-washington-obama/

GOLDMAN SACHS CEO turned Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson wasn’t the first, or the last, to use the revolving door between Wall Street and Washington. Here’s a short list of Obama officials who got their start in the private sector—many, like Paulson, at “Government Sachs.”

That's just the first two links on Obama's dissing of the public ire, with his appointments of bankster boys and gals.

It's like I'm talking to teenager wannabes here.
glitterbag
 
  1  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 02:12 am
@Builder,
Back atcha skippy
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Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 08:29 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
isn't there anyone under 50 in the Democratic party who would be a viable candidate?


Clinton got rid of anyone even remotely talented or intelligent in the DNC, so here we are with a dementia patient, and a yes-woman VP, hoping he drops his bundle quickly, so she can pick up the slack.

Her track record says she'll happily take the nation to war again, in the ME.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 09:18 pm
@Builder,
Builder wrote:

Quote:
isn't there anyone under 50 in the Democratic party who would be a viable candidate?


Clinton got rid of anyone even remotely talented or intelligent in the DNC, so here we are with a dementia patient, and a yes-woman VP, hoping he drops his bundle quickly, so she can pick up the slack.

Her track record says she'll happily take the nation to war again, in the ME.


So spake the renowned global intellectual Builder, alleged know-it-all of everything American. All Hail big kahuna
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MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 09:38 pm
@Builder,
So the guy builder keeps saying suffers from dementia, Biden, today signed a deal for 200 million vaccine doses which covers the 200 mil our "stable genus" ex-prez refused to buy when they were available months ago. Since it takes up to four months to produce them, that means a hundred thousand or so more are going to die in the interim before they can actually be made, since the lackwit ex-prez made another stupid fatal error that wasted months. Who exactly is suffering from dementia, builder?
Builder
 
  0  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 09:40 pm
@MontereyJack,
If you're following the narrative, none of the jabs are actually vaccines.

They offer zero protection from the virus, zero protection from spreading the virus, and only a hopeful promise that when you get the virus, it won't kill you.

How did anything your president did, or didn't do, lead you to an assumption that he added to your clearly inflated death toll? Did everyone suddenly stop dying from the flu and heart disease?

again, it's like I'm trying to explain making beds to teenager wannabes.



glitterbag
 
  2  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 09:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
oh oh oh pick me, pick me, I know the answer
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MontereyJack
 
  1  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 09:55 pm
@Builder,
If you actually look at the death statistics, covid deaths sre IN ADDITION to the deaths from other conditoions, nokt INSRTEAD of those deaths. Read before you speak. The same measures taken to stop the spread of covid work to stop the spread of conventional flu. Not doin' a great job of making beds, are you?
Builder
 
  -1  
Thu 11 Feb, 2021 10:05 pm
@MontereyJack,
Cite some actual evidence for your claims, or they're every bit as dodgy as the narrative from the "press".
 

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