Passenger Plane Crashes in French Alps.

@izzythepush,

and the partner, who would have had reasons for not going through with marriage, but must feel not so much justified, logical, but in utter horror.
This quails next to the horror for pilot, passengers, and families, but must still be terrible.

Agreed, izzy, re attitudes re mental health by both people with mental health problems and people observing, and as a side effect, access to care even if a person is not ashamed.

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@ossobuco,

She must feel awful, and very guilty even though it's not her fault.

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@izzythepush,

I'm not sure from what credible sources you got your information.

He was on sickness leave (unknown to his employer) from March 16 until March 29, after he went to the university hospital in Düsseldorf on March 15 for a consultation.
The hospital spokesperson didn't give any details about his illness (medical confidentiality), but said, he wasn't treated for depression. ("It is not the case that he was treated for depression".)

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

I'm not sure from what credible sources you got your information.

bb/reuters/cnbc/the times/npr/cbc/france24 etc etc ... they're all reporting on depression/personal problems

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

bb/reuters/cnbc/the times/npr/cbc/france24 etc etc ... they're all reporting on depression/personal problems

Okay. Might well be that they know more than the investigating prosecution and the doctors/hospital, who signed the sick leave.

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@Walter Hinteler,

They're also the groups who reported it when the airline initially said there was no history of any problems.

So - grain of salt - but that is what is being reported.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

... doctors/hospital, who signed the sick leave.

NB: the University Hospital Düsseldorf only clearly denied that he was treated there and/or got his sick leave due to depression.
Any more details would be criminal:

Code:

[b]Section 203

Violation of private secrets[/b]



(1) Whosoever unlawfully discloses a secret of another, in particular, a secret which belongs to the sphere of personal privacy or a business or trade secret, which was confided to or otherwise made known to him in his capacity as a



1.  physician, dentist, veterinarian, pharmacist or member of another healthcare profession which requires state-regulated education for engaging in the profession or to use the professional title;



2.  professional psychologist with a final scientific examination recognised by the State;

[...]

shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine.

[...]

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@ehBeth,

ehBeth wrote:

They're also the groups who reported it when the airline initially said there was no history of any problems.

They only know it now, but not the illness itself.

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@Walter Hinteler,

University Hospital Düsseldorf wrote:

Quote:

Aus ermittlungstechnischen Gründen kann das UKD keine weiteren Auskünfte erteilen. Meldungen, wonach Andreas L. wegen Depressionen in unserem Haus in Behandlung gewesen sei, sind jedoch unzutreffend.

Due to investigation reasons, the UKD cannot provide any further information. Reports that Andreas L. was in our hospital for depression treatment, however, are incorrect.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

University Hospital Düsseldorf wrote:

Quote:
Aus ermittlungstechnischen Gründen kann das UKD keine weiteren Auskünfte erteilen. Meldungen, wonach Andreas L. wegen Depressionen in unserem Haus in Behandlung gewesen sei, sind jedoch unzutreffend.
Due to investigation reasons, the UKD cannot provide any further information. Reports that Andreas L. was in our hospital for depression treatment, however, are incorrect.

that is a major piece of info for the journalists to get wrong.

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@hawkeye10,

They have a long way to go to be as wrong as you.

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Justing adding this (relative to how the early doctors/testers must feel by now), though I haven't read it myself yet:

The Germanwings tragedy: inside the mind of a pilot
Michael Bloomfield
As a qualified pilot and psychiatrist, I am certain that no prior psychological test to Andreas Lubitz would have predicted his actions

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/27/germanwings-tragedy-pilot-psychiatrist-psychological-evaluation-andreas-lubitz

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

They have a long way to go to be as wrong as you.

I dont know that I am wrong that this was almost certainly a terrorism act. The fact that they have not found a suicide note yet is a big problem for your theory, and we dont know that he was currently suffering from any emotional/mental problems. And remember he only had 600 hours , which puts into play the idea that he had been recruited years ago, and while investigators would probably figure this out in time they are not going to uncover this in a couple of days.

We shall see. In spite of headlines to the contrary we dont yet have any factual idea why this guy killed 149 people.

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@hawkeye10,

You are so full of it. The only person who thinks this was a terrorist act is you, and that's because you can't admit you were wrong. The fact is that he had a sick note saying he should not fly on the day of the crash. Nobody has said that's not the case.

Btw, it's not my theory, it's the theory of pretty much everyone commenting on the situation.

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@izzythepush,

I agree that terrorism seems out of the picture. Still, it's too early to rule it out entirely.

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@izzythepush,

Technically,Sean Hannity , last night, stated that the co-pilot "may hve become radicalized"

Hes kind of a dipshit

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@farmerman,

That's probably why he's being parroted by Chicken Little.

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@farmerman,

farmerman wrote:

Technically,Sean Hannity , last night, stated that the co-pilot "may hve become radicalized"

Hes kind of a dipshit

You see that across the board from Journalists these days. They used to say "this is what we know", now they say " this is what we dont know". Maybe this and maybe that equals " we dont know".

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

The fact is that he had a sick note saying he should not fly on the day of the crash.

Maybe he was flying because he had already decided that this was the day that he was going to kill 149 people, and he for damn sure was not going to let the flu stop him.

We dont know what the note was for. Stop assuming.

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@hawkeye10,

You're the one doing all the bloody assuming.

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