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Passenger Plane Crashes in French Alps.

 
 
Ionus
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 09:04 pm
Money will not ease the grief but when the worst of the grieving is ending, the money may help restore some normality to their lives, eg a family holiday together .
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 09:11 pm
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:

Money will not ease the grief but when the worst of the grieving is ending, the money may help restore some normality to their lives, eg a family holiday together .
a couple of million buys more than that.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 09:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
Free money because you luck out when someone related to you dies in a horrible fashion, yeah, money fixes everything.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 09:26 pm
@glitterbag,
everyone but you knows that "partially made whole" does not equal "fixes everything".

if money does not matter then these companies need to get smart and stop handing it out.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 09:49 pm
@hawkeye10,
Everybody but you knows that money is a penalty that irresponsible companys have to cough up to hopefully not continue to continue treating human life as dispensable in the pursuit of profit. Let's not respond to each other anymore, I see you as a moron who worships money, and you try to insult me with obscenities. I learned a long time ago that people who use your tactics are pathetic creatures. We both know that's true. It's sad you are so maladjusted, but it's not my job to tolerate or fix your pathetic butt. Go buy yourself some SMBD stuff, pick out something pretty. I want you to have a fleeting glimmer of pleasure.
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Reply Thu 2 Apr, 2015 11:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
You can off course go off your words Hawk... "Partially made whole" is your words... Money does not matter love does.

You seem hell bend on money and success means all in your life.

The Companies don't hand it out they are insured and insurance hands it out.

Again, get a grip I am sorry but for someone who loves a way of life that is shown as beautiful you are showing ignorance.

Again these people may get money a lot actually and sure they will have "things" as a result. IT will never, ever, bring back their loved ones.

You used to argue sensibly with emotions now you resort to name calling, which appears to appear a lot on A2K don't become that.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 05:27 am
"Several times during the course of the descent, the pilot adjusted the automatic pilot so as to increase the speed of the plane as it descended." (According to the French investigators, who had looked at the data of the black box.)

And five doctor practises were search in Germany (psychiatrists' and neurologists') and his data were seized. A couple more doctors reported his visits in their practises, too - seems, he was "doctor-hopping".
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 06:09 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Does "more whole" come to mind?

yes

The most charitable conclusion I can arrive at is: you don't know what you're talking about.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Apr, 2015 07:31 am
Alice Coldefy, 32, a French gendarme from the PGHM (Gendarmerie High Mountain Rescue Squad, found the second black box of the Germanwings plane on April 2, 2015, after a nine-day search.


Video here (in French) http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/video/a320-la-boite-noire-est-sortie-des-debris-a-force-de-creuser-raconte-la-gendarme-488229.html or here (with German subtitles) http://spon.de/vgJZW
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 4 Apr, 2015 10:56 am
@Walter Hinteler,
French investigators have ended their search for bodies in the Alps, a local official said on Saturday.

"The search for bodies is over, but the search for the victims' personal belongings is continuing," a spokesman for the local government authority in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence region told Reuters.
"Lufthansa has also hired a specialist firm to remove the debris of the aircraft, under the authority of the French public prosecutor and an expert in charge of environmental supervision of the operations," he said.

The identification of victims will now continue through the analysis of 150 sets of DNA found at site, which could take several weeks. The prosecutor leading the French legal probe has cautioned that the number of DNA sets does not necessarily mean all the victims have been found.

As soon as a DNA set is matched to one of the victims, the family will immediately be informed.

Work to remove aircraft debris and clean up the site will start next week and could take up to two months, said General David Galtier, a regional French police commander in charge of the operation.
(Source: reuters)
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 5 Apr, 2015 10:44 am
It still hurts to think a pilot could do that...he had the trust of all those men, women and children...I find myself thinking about it a lot . Could there be any greater betrayal of those lives ? He wanted to be famous...well I can't remember his name and do not wish too . I hope they dont find any of him .
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 5 Apr, 2015 12:44 pm
@Ionus,
David used to always say " dont trust anyone", and that seems to be the way we are going. We try to backfill with rules and laws passed down from on high, by removing the freedom of the people, but that effort is doomed to failure.

This is how a civilization unravels.

My theory has long been that this civilization is ending, that at some point in the not too distant future humans on earth will have completely new ways of living and interacting with each other. The economic system for instance will finish collapsing into dust, and will be replaced with something else. We will have a global government of some kind.

Furthermore my theory is that we are ignorant on purpose, because we dont want to know what is going on in this world, because what we do know terrifies us. We sense that things are ending, we have fear in our hearts and we are willing to to try to trade freedom for security but that will never work either.

The guys that came back from WW2 often said that they now understood how thin the veneer of civility is. That knowledge is spreading in spite of our best efforts.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 5 Apr, 2015 01:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
Furthermore my theory is that what afflicts the human race is primarily a serious spiritual problem, boarding on mass mental illness. The tool that we always reach for when ever there is a problem is the hammer.....rules/law/punishment....but it is the wrong tool for this job.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 6 Apr, 2015 08:11 am
@hawkeye10,
From experience with stone age tribal peoples, they are far more socially restricted in some ways but have far more freedom in others . No one hits anyone . The rare violence is dealt with so severely as to curb anyone who might contemplate it and to eliminate anyone genetically predisposed .
No one is excluded from the tribe . Difficult people are tolerated . Surprisingly everyone at a feast has a social status and the organiser of the feast will line you up . Front of the line gets the best cuts, those at the end will be lucky to get hooves . Social status is very strong but never condescending . Not like the royal family for instance .
Death is continuous and you can never forget it .
Now violence against outsiders, that is the forte of young men . They usually start a fight, then when some on both sides have been killed they realise how they went wrong . A peace is made till the next generation of young men .

So...when do you think we went wrong ?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 6 Apr, 2015 05:08 pm
Quote:
How much Lufthansa knew about Lubitz’s psychiatric problems, and whether the airline failed to inform the relevant authorities, are likely to be key factors in the airline’s liability for the crash, reports Reuters. The German aviation authority, the Luftfahrtbundesamt, said on Sunday it had “no information at all” about Lubitz’s depression.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/06/lufthansa_says_it_wasn_t_required_to_report_andreas_lubitz_s_depression.html

The public lying is a public relations problem, but legally the problem for Lufthansa is that there is a high probability that they knew that he was not of sound mind, and yet he was allowed into the cockpit. They can argue all day long that long term they want pilots to self report and so they dont want to pull employment from those who seek mental illness help, but at the end of the day you cant let mentally unfit people fly. And the fact that he killed 149 people proves that he was mentally unfit.
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Wilso
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 04:25 am
You are a ******* lunatic. Either get over yourself, or have yourself committed, where you can get the help you need. or maybe you're just pissed off that in your own mind you're so important, but in the real world you're a ******* nobody
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 07:10 am
@Wilso,
Wilso wrote:

You are a ******* lunatic.


No, katsung47 is a Kremlin sockpuppet, everything he posts is designed to spread suspicion about Western governments and paint a rosy picture of the fascist Putin.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 11:45 pm
Today, in the central memorial service in Cologne's cathedral, relatives and representatives from many countries will be paying tribute to the Germanwings crash victims.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Thu 16 Apr, 2015 11:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Today, in the central memorial service in Cologne's cathedral, relatives and representatives from many countries will be paying tribute to the Germanwings crash victims.


Typical victim culture ideology. The people on that plane did not die in acts of heroism , their actions had no contribution to their deaths. They were pure victims, and they are going to be worshipped solely for being victims.

An example of Non victim culture language would have it said that people are gathering to morn the passage of 149 souls.
 

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