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Passenger Plane Crashes in French Alps.

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 05:41 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It is now reported (source is said to be the Düsseldorf prosecution office) that the first officer actually was on sick leave on that day - he didn't give that doctor's note to his employers (since it was found in his Düsseldorf flat).
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 05:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The official press release by the Düsseldorf prosecution office, as pdf-data, can be downloaded >here<

Obviously, he had been ill and was not able to work on several days and over various periods - and obviously, too, he didn't report that to his employer (since those attests were found in his flat).
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 06:02 am
@Ionus,
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How much of your life have you spent in third world countries helping people ?

28 years, and you?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 06:46 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I've been withhelding judgement for a while, waiting for more clues and all... Now that we have a better picture i'm just depressed and quite a bit angry. That is so unfair...
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 07:01 am
@Olivier5,
You really have crap for morals don't you...you say of course France blew up a peaceful demonstration vessel that was in a foreign harbour under a foreign flag and that amounts to war....everybody knows that . You see how insignificant it is if everyone knows it ?

You said....
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All the rest--the Louvre, the Exocet add, etc.-- comes from your racist arse. And is absolutely ridiculous.


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The Exocet that struck the Sheffield impacted on the starboard side at deck level 2, travelling through the junior ratings scullery and breaching the Forward Auxiliary Machinery Room/Forward Engine Room bulkhead 2.4 metres (7 ft 10 in) above the waterline, creating a hole in the hull roughly 1.2 by 3 metres (3.9 by 9.8 ft). It appears that the warhead did not explode.[14] Accounts suggest that the initial impact of the missile disabled the ship's electrical distribution systems and breached the pressurised sea water fire main, severely hampering any firefighting response and eventually dooming the ship to be consumed by the fire. The loss of Sheffield was a deep shock to the British public and government.

Some of the crew of Sheffield were of the opinion that the missile exploded, others held the view that it had not. The official Royal Navy Board of Inquiry Report, however, stated that evidence indicates that the warhead did not detonate. During the four and a half days that the ship remained afloat, five salvage inspections were made and a number of photographs were taken. Members of the crew were interviewed, and testimony was given by Exocet specialists (the Royal Navy had 15 surface combat ships armed with Exocets in the Falklands War). There was no evidence of an explosion, although burning propellant from the rocket motor had caused a number of fires, which could not be checked as a fire main had been put out of action.

The Atlantic Conveyor was a container ship that had been hastily converted to an aircraft transport and was carrying helicopters and supplies. The missiles had been fired at a frigate but had been confused by the frigate's defences and instead targeted the Atlantic Conveyor nearby. The Exocets - it is not certain whether the warheads exploded or not - caused a fire in the fuel and ammunition aboard which burnt the ship out. Atlantic Conveyor sank while under tow three days later.

Because there may be some doubt about the efficiency of the missile in some peoples minds, the charming French took out an ad, basically full of boasting and lies, what we have come to expect .
This is a newspaper article on the Ad .
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&amp;dat=19840913&amp;id=86xjAAAAIBAJ&amp;sjid=iuEDAAAAIBAJ&amp;pg=2678,2991396&amp;hl=en

As for corrupt french men...C'est impossible....
http://www.newsweek.com/code-breakers-114221
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Then, in early December, while Howard and Grazer were in Paris auditioning actresses for the film's female lead, they got a call from the office of French President Jacques Chirac inviting them to swing by and say bonjour . "We thought it was going to be a five-minute thing, like a trip to the Oval Office--a photo and a handshake," says Grazer. But Chirac asked them to sit down and get comfortable. Coffee was poured. They ended up staying close to an hour. Chirac insisted that his guests alert him if their request to film at the Louvre hit any snags. Not only that, he offered them some... pointers. He suggested they cast his daughter's best friend--an actress of some acclaim in France--in the role of Sophie Neveu, the elegant young cryptographer at the heart of the book's mystery. And he wondered aloud, half seriously, if they could sweeten the paycheck for actor Jean Reno, who'd already been cast as the relentless French detective Bezu Fache. "That was hilarious," says Howard. "Fortunately the deal was already closed."


I expect an apology, but with your morality and arrogance....well....
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 07:21 am
@Ionus,
If the URL for the Ad doesnt work, google "Ad Brags About Exocet 'hits - Google News" .
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 08:14 am
Although this thread now is neither about 149 murdered plane passengers nor the suicide of the first officer, which led to their death, but obviously a private French-attacking and -bashing forum, I just give the prosecution's statement (video @ spiegel-online) in the originalGerman:
http://i60.tinypic.com/1zbe41y.jpg
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"Allerdings wurden Dokumente medizinischen Inhalts sichergestellt, die auf einen bestehende Erkrankung und entsprechende ärztliche Behandlung hinwiesen.Der Umstand, dass dabei unter anderem zerrissene aktuelle und auch am Tattag, den Tattag umfassende Krankschreibungen gefunden wurden, stützt nach vorläufiger Bewertung die Annahme, dass der Verstorbene seine Erkrankung gegenüber dem Arbeitgeber und dem beruflichen Umfeld verheimlicht hat."
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Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 08:52 am
@Olivier5,
Sad .
Ionus
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 08:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
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French-attacking and -bashing forum
In what way ?
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 08:54 am
@Ionus,
Sad but TRUE.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 09:20 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Yes, I had read that. I was wondering if there was a new mention of present depression.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 09:26 am
@ossobuco,
The results of yesterday's search were released in the above mentioned press release and verbatim in the above mentioned video this morning resp. afternoon by the head of the press department of the Düsseldorf prosecution office.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 09:29 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter
Thanks for all of your work on this thread. I have been following, but not posting.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 09:40 am
@Lordyaswas,
I had been getting a "nose" for that - makes sense of the completely senseless -

"Things aren't looking so much like mechanical breakdown now, are they. I have been considering it possibly suicidal for a while. If so, I suppose it could be 'terror' related, but it could also be a mental health/anger situation. I'm just thinking out loud here."

"Aha, I hadn't read that yet. I was positing a mix of love story gone wrong, thus rage, with depression, but as Frank would say, it's just a guess."

What an incredibly violent and depressing act.
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 09:58 am
That's a problem with murder suicide; the perps commit the acts in the wrong order. If they committed suicide first, we could probably give them a pass on whatever they did next.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 10:02 am
@Walter Hinteler,
I saw them, thank you for posting those.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 27 Mar, 2015 10:08 am
@neologist,
The problem with depression is the stigma attached, people don't seek help. The co-pilot wasn't evil he was mentally ill, and attitudes towards mental illness need to change so that people don't feel ashamed about seeking treatment. Condemning him won't change attitudes and won't go anywhere to stopping this sort of incident happening again, maybe not an aeroplane, but a car or a coach or a lorry.

It's a tragedy all round, and I imagine it must be far worse for his parents.
 

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