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Holocaust Evidence

 
 
Reply Mon 6 Oct, 2014 07:15 pm
Holocaust Evidence Links


> Major Evidence of the Holocaust 
> Nizkor Website 


> http://www.nizkor.org/ 

> > Testimony of Auschwitz Commandant Hoess 

> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/h/hoess.rudolf.ferdinand/ftp.cgi? people/h/hoess.rudolf.ferdinand//hoess.statemen
>


> > Statement by the American Historical Association: 


> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/6bc3bf4f1df8fc08 

> > The Avalon Project-Transcripts of the Nuremberg Trials 
> > None of the defendants ever denied the exterminations 


> http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/imt.htm#proc 



> The Holocaust History Project 
> http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/ 


> > Adolf Eichmann in His Own Words:He never denied the exterminations. 
> > His sole defense was 
> > that he was just following Orders: 


> http://remember.org/eichmann/ownwords.htm 


> > Dr Hoettl Speaks 


> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/f701f5aa3ff24bf5?d...

The six million figure was essentially confirmed with population statistics




> > The Einsatzgruppen 


> http://www.deathcamps.org/occupation/einsatzgruppen.html 

The Jaeger Report

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.holocaust-history.org/works/jaeger-report/htm/intro001.htm


> > Gas Chamber Links 


> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2306745faea77d78 

>  Diary entry of Goebbels-The Fuhrer says the Jews must be 
> annihilated: 



> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/2ef0cf9e3a71db4b 


> Hitler's Promise- To Annihilate The Jews 
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/browse_thread/thread/f... 

> The Holocaust In Photos 
> http://www.zwoje-scrolls.com/shoah/camps.html 


Allied movies of Nazi Concentration Camps 

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/nazi-concentration-camps/

The Auschwitz Album
http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/album_auschwitz/index.asp?WT.mc_id=200960&WT.cg_n=g.en

Mass graves Found at Nazi camps
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen01.jpg

>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//bergen-belsen/images/belsen02.jpg

>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//ohrdruf/images/ohrdruf-02.jpg
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//nordhausen/images/nordhausen-01.jpg
>http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF
>http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp.py?camps//buchenwald/images/buchenwald01.jpg
>
>   http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1673471.stm
>
>   Mass graves found at Nazi camps
>Researchers have discovered seven mass graves at the Sobibor Nazi
>death camp in north-eastern Poland.
>
>   The research team,  which began its government-sponsored investigation
>in the summer,  said the graves -- the largest of which is about half
>the size of a football pitch -- contain charred remains.


Evidence for Nazi use of gas chambers:

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/american/skeptic-magazine/skeptic-12.html 


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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 09:07 am
Darn shame when something as documented including in minute reportage by the Nazis themselves needs to re-documented.

Thanks for doing it. I'm with you 100%
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mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 11:10 am
@carloslebaron,
I'm not.
1.5 million jews in Europe - 6 million killed.
That's a diabolical embellishment of the facts.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 11:14 am
@carloslebaron,
carloslebaron wrote:
I expect, that if someone wants to discuss my opinion, to do it with the same respect I'm showing when posting my message.
How can someone have respect with you when you don't have have respect with those millions who died so cruelly?
JoeBruno
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 11:14 am
@mark noble,
That's a lie. There were 11 million European Jews in 1939.
mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 11:50 am
@JoeBruno,
Nope - That's the global figure. Your reference is flawed. Was 10.2 mill btw.
http//www.radioislam.org/historia/really/03.htm
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mark noble
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 12:05 pm
@JoeBruno,
excuse my 'link' attempt. Enter here via ps3 - Am restricted.
Just google it. The point is - Even though the atrocities occured - The numbers were exaggerated. Don't ask me why - I see no difference between 1 atrocity and a billion.
All I know is who financed it, who benefited from it and who, still, conducts such. Enough said.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 01:04 pm
@carloslebaron,
carloslebaron wrote:



To start, I please want to post my opinion about the gas chambers

Years ago, a dude went to the assumed gas chambers and collected samples to be taken to a lab. The results given was that no great amount of poison gas elements were found incrusted on the walls of those rooms. The amount of these residuals is what is found if you use disinfectants and similar cleaning products.



Wow, some dude went and collected samples to be taken to a lab???? I happen to have a spray bottle of Mr. Clean in my hand and I'll pass along a few of the Cautionary warnings on the back label:

HAZARDS TO HUMANS AND DOMESTIC ANIMALS

And then it lists all of the steps to be taken to avoid contact with eyes, skin and cautions on removing all traces of cleaner before eating, drinking, chewing gum, using tobacco or using the toilet.

They also advise calling Poison Control and seek medical attention.

If you like, I'll list the ingredients in my Lemon scented Mr. Clean. But thank you for your lay mans interpretation of what constitutes dangerous chemicals, after reading the label of this multi-surface cleaner and disinfectant, I'll be taking my bottle to the county when the next hazardous waste pick up day occurs.

On the other hand, it would be helpful to know who the dude was and how sound was the scientific data collected and analyzed. With all due respect.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:00 pm
@carloslebaron,
Even cursory investigation would disabuse you of your skepticism. I'm skeptical of your skepticism.

But lets pretend that your skepticism falls somewhere this side of mars. Pretend you are right. Who would benefit from the big lie? And how?

Please answer that for me, 'cause I just don't get it.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:01 pm
@mark noble,
You're a "skeptic", too??????
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:03 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Some people don't get 'ethics', Walter. Thank G*d for people like you.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:05 pm
@JoeBruno,
Where do they get their facts? Its not even hard to put the lie to them. This kind of ingorance of the facts is willful.
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:06 pm
@glitterbag,
Hey, Glitter!
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bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Tue 7 Oct, 2014 05:44 pm
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/jewpop.html

Jews have lived in Europe for more than two thousand years. The American Jewish Yearbook placed the total Jewish population of Europe at about 9.5 million in 1933. This number represented more than 60 percent of the world's Jewish population, which was estimated at 15.3 million. Most European Jews resided in eastern Europe, with about 5 1/2 million Jews living in Poland and the Soviet Union. Before the Nazi takeover of power in 1933, Europe had a dynamic and highly developed Jewish culture. In little more than a decade, most of Europe would be conquered, occupied, or annexed by Nazi Germany and most European Jews--two out of every three--would be dead.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 02:43 am
I really don't see the point in quibbling over numbers unless you're in the business of Holocaust amelioration. The Holocaust was the greatest crime of the 20th Century and vast amounts of innocent people were exterminated. The testimonies of allied soldiers alone are evidence enough of the full horror of the Holocaust.

Does it justify the continued and on going persecution of the Palestinian people by the State Of Israel? No.
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mark noble
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 04:40 am
@bobsal u1553115,
I am skeptical on some issues.
History is written by conquerers - And is biased.
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 06:27 am
@mark noble,
True. The victors get make the conclusions and they get to edit and obscure facts. The difference with the Holocaust is that the scope of it was well documented by the Germans. Its not as if they were trying to hide the intention of what they were trying to do: eliminate entire classes of people including Gypsies, gays, communists, lame and infirm as well as Jews. The four million figure wasn't derived from models or estimated, it was tallied by the Germans on ledgers and recorded. The system for extermination was designed and intended through the entire process and was wildly successful so as to be unhidable. And undeniable. Remember when confronted with these accusations at Nuremberg the accused never denied - they claimed only to be following orders.

Skepticism is a good thing. Check the facts, the Holocaust remains.
carloslebaron
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 08:46 am
@ bobsal u1553115

Quote:
Even cursory investigation would disabuse you of your skepticism. I'm skeptical of your skepticism.

But lets pretend that your skepticism falls somewhere this side of mars. Pretend you are right. Who would benefit from the big lie? And how?

Please answer that for me, 'cause I just don't get it.


Compare the result of the war with a car accident.

A person in purpose hit another car because the him and the another driver are enemies.

The victim's car has a big damage in the rear bumper and part of the trunk. The back lights are also destroyed. The impact, however, didn't cause any physical damage to the integrity of the driver.

But, the "victim driver" fakes that he has pain in his neck. From here, the victim will claim doctor's visits, therapy, cash money to compensate not be capable of having sex with the wife, compensation for not working for months, and so forth.

See?

There is a great advantage and business to exaggerate the damage made by Germans on Jewish people. The greater the damage, the greater the compensation.

Why do you think that after 70 years, read clearly, 70 years , man! those are a lot of years, and we still have to read and participate in this kind of topic? This is not a "fresh wound" this is a past event, a far away past event, and dudes still can't let it go.

My opinion is that there is something wrong with the minds of people who can't let go and keep remembering and even "still making Hollywood movies" against Nazis...

Come on, Even Iraqis who lived very recently daily bombings for months by the US army, and hundreds of thousands died and the survivors are living "normally" and are not claiming anything to anyone... Why then, we must have to accept cry babies who never stop playing the victims?

I think that the dudes that still crying for a 70 years past war are people who hate others, and because they are not happy they just want others to have the same miserable life.

I see no other reason why all this fuss about a past century holocaust in this new millennium... just let it go...
bobsal u1553115
 
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Reply Wed 8 Oct, 2014 09:39 am
@carloslebaron,
I guess you didn't understand the questions:

Assuming that that your numbers are correct, who specifically benefits from the big lie of "4 million Jews exterminated in the death camps"? And how do they specifically benefit?

Comparing the Holocaust to a car wreck really trivializes the death of 1.4 million Jews you admit to, let alone the 4,000,000 Jews, 1,000,000 Poles, 10,000, 000 Russians, Ukraines, 400,000 Gypsies ..... I am shocked at chutzpa it took to do that so blithely. So these dead Jews rear ended the Nazis or were rear ended by the Nazis, and who lost the consortium of their spouses?
 

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