Thunderbolts of the gods

Ron Hatch holds most of the basic patents for GPS; he claims that relativity is a bunch of bullshit and that GPS runs on Newtonian physics.

Ron Hatch is easily looked up on Google. Hes one of the "lightning bolt fringies" and if he doesn't agree that relativistic corrections make the GPS network more accurate, then hes as much an idiot as you.

Louis Essen, elected FRS for developing the Caesium Clock, wrote to Nature that the alleged confirmation of Relativity by the gentlemen who took Caesium Clocks round the world by airplane was bogus because the caesium clock did not have the claimed accuracy. Nature refused to publish, preferring the PC 'confirmation' of relativity to stand. Essen told me that Dingle queered the pitch by making a mistake. Essen also told me that the Inst. Phys. broke its contract with him to publish an article even after he had checked the galleys. The Inst. Phys. also broke its contract with me to publish my article which later appeared in Wireless World in March 1979. The Inst. Phys. is riddled with unscientific PC - mania.
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/w4rlectu.htm

One aspect of this subject which you have not dealt with is the accuracy and reliability of the experiments claimed to support the theory. The effects are on the border line of what can be measured. The authors tend to get the result required by the manipulation and selection of results. This was so with Eddington’s eclipse experiment, and also in the more resent results of Hafele and Keating with atomic clocks. This result was published in Nature, so I submitted a criticism to them. In spite of the fact that I had more experience with atomic clocks than anyone else, my criticism was rejected. It was later
published in the Creation Research Quarterly, vol. 14, 1977, p. 46 ff”
http://www.gsjournal.net/old/science/rickeressen.pdf

Abstract. The original test results were not published by Hafele & Keating, in their famous 1972 paper; they published figures that were radically different from the actual test results which are here published for the first time. An analysis of the real data shows that no credence can be given to the conclusions of Hafele & Keating.”
http://www.anti-relativity.com/hafelekeatingdebunk.htm

all these "anti-relativity.COM sites are the equivalent of self publication. Most of the fringies love the internet cause it gives an air of semi respectability for their "ideas"

The time -dilation effect has been measured and verified hundreds of times with clocks that are multi sensor cesium eR clocks. (The newest clocks are thousands of times more accurate than those of the original experiments in 1971)

Like gunga , you seem to like to poo poo "modern physics" but you sha,elessly only present the oldest data available to try to discount it.
Naughty boys.
Were used to gunga's fraud,, now I think we have you to include in his "posse". COuld you be gunga;s relative?
I think such luddite thinking is in the genes.

So you like to SELECT only the evidence you like?

Nobody's looking to you for any input anyway

Its good that you have spendi, you both are attention whores.

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'modern physics' is hollow, a powerless and ridiculous thing we have to get rid of as soon as posible if we want progress.

I don't think anyone who thinks like you will ever be accused of making "progress", mostly because you have no idea in hell how science works (or else your just foolin with us and are actually a lot smarter than you make yourself sound)

Take DNA, It was discovered by isolating this cloudy mass of material from PUS. The physician, a Greman namedMeicher, named the material a 'nuclein" 10 yers later another physician isolated the nucleic acid nd the 5 bases (including Uracyl).
Aork in the early 1900s through the 1930;s indicated that there existed in the Nucleic acid-"A GIANT molecule responsible for Mendelian genetics and therefore heredity of organisms"
The thing that didn't allow any research to go further was equipment needed to be updated and theories needed to be coddled. Ros Franklins xray allowed Watson And Crick to propose a "Moseld " for DNA's structure and then that gave CRICK the idea for the grand ADAPTOR HYPOTHESIS. (Everything from that point on has been deeper understandings combined with nifty NEW gizmos, like PCR modules and theories of SNP's etc, and a complete mapping of the genomes of several organisms (INCLUING the Neanderthals)

ALL science must be collaborative and the new resides upon the shoulders of the old (except, at least in the case of DNA, the Old usually had NO FRIGGIN IDEA what the hell their initial discoveries were even about. DNA is that perfect example. The advances in DNA use (nanotech , nanotech bioinformatics, forensics, medicine, evolution, environmental restoration, separation of such things a s Rare earths from the sea, etc etc) are all since the late 1980's when a bloom of understanding gave rise to the use of this remarkeable molecule.

I can lecture upon all sorts of new findings in the earth sciences but Ill just put my little budgie , Quahog, to sleep.

if you want to be intelligent and wise, than try first to chew on the thinks we say.
Mind you I am not saying you have to agree. but it is a process that takes time.

Beleiving actually takes no time, youve just become a zombistic true believer that the world of testable results is not at your level. Id say that you need a healthy dose of more education in several areas.

Course you can just stay stupid and deny everything that's factual.Im afraid that you are the one who's indoctrinated by the Creationist mindset. They want nothing to do with testable fact or repeatable experiments or the scientific method. Its not to be trusted.

Nothin I can do to fix stupid. Youre on yer own Quahog

Carry on.

sorry to see but you are just a puppet in the system doing what the system wants you to do