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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:01 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quehoniaomath wrote:
I have seen no proof modern physics works! nowehere!

and I always thougt that the one who makes the claims has to proof it.
well, if you think modern physics works, then please, proof it!
But you really can't , and I am very serious about this, I am too old too joke
about such seriosu matters and I don't want to waste my time.
So give me some proof!
I function on a more WYSIWYG level. Anecdotal and circumstantial evidence means a lot to me.
Science may be crap; but my computer works.
English may be useless; but it helps when you try to make a coherent argument.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:01 am
@Quehoniaomath,
You're the one who refuses to understand. You made several claims about modern physics for which you have provided no proof. You're just trying to turn it around because you can't substantiate your claims. Logic . . . ah-hahaahahahahaha . . . you wouldn't know logic if it bit you in the ass.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:06 am
@Setanta,
well, let me put it more simple to you.

How the hell can I prove a 'negative'? I can't offcourse!

I am saying that 'Modern Physics' doesn't work, UNTIL I see proof of it,

well, there is no proof , so, 'modern physics' doesn't work.

logic, sherlock, logic!!

waiting and waiting for proof that 'modern physics' does work.

(I really hope you are no laywer Wink )

Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:13 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Bullshit--you could provide examples of what about modern physics is a hoax, and then provide proof. You could provide examples of where modern physics is wrong, and then provide proof. You could provide examples of how modern physics is dumb, and then provide proof. You haven't provided any proof for your bullshit claims, and i suspect that the reason is that you can't provide any proof.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:16 am
@Setanta,
lol

offcourse I can't provide any proof the way you want.
You really don't understand logic at all.


Don't you see how easy it should be for you to refute me?

Just give one, yes just one example of 'modern physics' and your done!

However, you don't do this,

I wonder why? Wink

neologist
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:20 am
@Quehoniaomath,
All that would be required is a verifiable example of physics at work.
Here is a test:
Equipment you will need
1]Boat. (rowboat or canoe OK)
2] Rope (actually, 20 feet or so of parachute cord would work)
3] 100 pound barbell plate (or similar weight)
4] Lake, river, or other body of water over 20 feet deep.
Are you beginning to see my train of thought?
Tie one end of rope around neck, the other end securely around the weight.
Pick up weight.
Jump in lake while holding weight.
Contemporary studies in physics would predict we would not hear from you again.
Let us know how that works out.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:21 am
@neologist,
so you can't give a good example of 'modern physics'?
(btw you 'example' is not 'modern physics')

I am not surprised.
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:22 am
@Quehoniaomath,
You're the one who doesn't understand logic. If you make a claim, you have the burden of proving your claim. That's basic logic. If you can't meet the reasonable regime of proof for which i asked, then obviously you were making bullshit claims. (Hint: I knew that right away.)
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:24 am
@Setanta,
so you really don't understand logic at all.

what don't you understand about not being able to 'prove a negative'?


The only claim I make is that 'modern physics' is empty, very empty.

the only way you can disproof this is to show me 'modern physics' works.

I know you can't,

neologist
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:26 am
@Quehoniaomath,
But your conducting the experiment would certainly update the predicted results.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:28 am
@Quehoniaomath,
I haven't asked that you prove a negative, Mr. Illogical. I've asked you to provide examples of how modern physics ia "a hoax," or "wrong," or "dumb." All of those are claims you've made. So i'm not asking you to prove a negative. I'm asking you to provide examples of your claims, and to prove them. But you play this childish, idiotic game because you can't, you know it, and you're trying to weasel out of it.
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:16 am
@Setanta,
He will keep that idiotic grin going all week and never pose an facts or arguments anywhere. At least hes been a consistent presenter of the empty bag hypothesis.
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Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:20 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
I haven't asked that you prove a negative,


Yes, you did.


My god..

ah well..

I am saying someone can't jump 2 meter high,
You are asking that I have to proof that.
I can't, because you are asking me to 'prove a negative'.
In your case 'modern physics' is claiming it can do things,
as long as there is no proof that it can, it is a very empty thing to say.



when the jumper jumps 2 meter high he has proved me wrong,
but, only then!

when 'modern physics' can proof it claims it has proved me wrong.
but, only then!

what is so diifcult for you about this? it is just very simple plain logic.



and all the time you could haved delivered proof that 'modern physics' works, why don't you?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:26 am
No, i'm not asking you to prove a negative. Stop whining.

You said that modern physics is a hoax. Can you provide an example of a hoax in modern physics, and provide proof?

You have said that modern physics is wrong. Can you provide an example of where it is wrong, and provide proof?

That's not asking you prove a negative, that's asking you to prove your positive assertions that modern physics is a hoax, and that it is wrong.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:33 am
@Setanta,
lol I am not whining. Wink

it is very simple, but it seems your mind repels this,

here we go

A. 'modern physics' is a hoax, rubbish etcetera.
B. BECAUSE there is no proof it really works.


I suspect that you, implicitly, think 'modern physics' does work, so make your mind blank from your predjudice..

Now, the ONLY thing you have to do now, is show me that 'modern physics' works and we are done, it is that easy.


put it another way,WHERE THE HELL IS THE PROOF THAT 'MODERN PHYSICS' works?

Right, there is none!

Hence, 'modern physics' is a joke a hoax and what have you,


as long as you can't jump 2 meter that proves me right. if you catch my drift,

Wink
Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:36 am
@Quehoniaomath,
You can suspect what you please. Saying "there is no proof that it really work" is not evidence of anything more than your muddled thinking. It's an ipse dixit claim, and there's no reason to anyone to believe something just because you say so.

You said that modern physics is a hoax. Can you provide an example of a hoax in modern physics, and provide proof?

You have said that modern physics is wrong. Can you provide an example of where it is wrong, and provide proof?
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:36 am
@Quehoniaomath,
Quote:

It just so seems you haven't investigated into any of this.
Actually there is much much more proof for this, then for the mainstream science hoaxes like gravity, relativity and what have you...

most theories in physics are hoaxes, and dumb, very very dumb, and all this by design.
Heres your opening statement. Now what are you hiding from? You've latched on to a hypotheis, now try to carry it forward by NOT engaging in mere fact-free negatives.

Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:37 am
@Setanta,
well, give me some proof 'modern physics' works, it really seems now that you can't.
Quehoniaomath
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:41 am
@farmerman,
well, I tell you again, as long as there is no proof 'modern physics' works , it is plain wrong,

I think your looking through the wrong glasses.

if I had made a statement that was less contaminated you would understand,

if I had said that "akjshashiulyqqdqwsw6" was a hoax, because there is no proof it is true, you probably would had gone along with me,

But I am rather sure you are biased towards the idea that 'modern physics' works,.


well, it doesn't until someone proves me otherwise.

so, go ahead.




Setanta
 
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Reply Tue 29 Apr, 2014 11:44 am
By the way, that "you can't jump two meters high" bullshit doesn't get it. I acknowledge that i can't jump "tow meters high." However, if you were to say that no one can jump two meters high, i am prepared to point out that that is just more bullshit from you. Javier Sotomayor of Cuba jumped 2.45 meters on July 27, 1993 in Salamanca, Spain. You have a real talent for being wrong.
 

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