Let's say that hypothetically the war with Japan ended without using the bomb. Since nations get ready for the next war, during peace, development of the bomb would have continued in more than a few nations. Then when there was another adversarial military situation, between nations (choose any from 1946 to present) the bomb might have then been used, since no one could really know the "horror" of the bomb. Now, in my opinion, if one can agree that the bomb would have been used at some point, even if it wasn't on Japan, one could argue that by using it on Japan, and seeing the "horror" of the bomb, that could be the reason it hasn't been used since. So, where am I going with this? Oh, simple; since the Imperial Japanese had been mercilessly killing our Marines, and treating POW's in a less than humane way, one could argue that the Japanese earned the right to be the prototype victim of nuclear weapons.
Now, the above is not racist, in my opinion. It just argues that if someone had to eventually be a victim, the Japanese might have been the victim with the least ethical argument to not be a prototype victim. In a way, their having the bomb dropped on them might have made a nuclear bomb free world since then.
So, where am I going with this? Oh, simple; since the Imperial Japanese had been mercilessly killing our Marines, and treating POW's in a less than humane way, one could argue that the Japanese earned the right to be the prototype victim of nuclear weapons.
You've just described a situation, Foofie, where the next guinea pigs for the next amoral weapon would have to be the US and its citizens because they, collectively, have been mercilessly killing innocents since before the US was founded and it continues, unabated, to this day.
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Finn dAbuzz
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Wed 21 Aug, 2013 07:03 pm
@JTT,
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I felt the stirrings of detente.
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reasoning logic
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Thu 22 Aug, 2013 03:50 pm
@peter jeffrey cobb,
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What safeguards have we put in to prevent these events from happening again in the future?
None that I know of but I do wonder if transparency could be a start.
Well we can agree these were times in history that we don't want to see happen again. So should we put in safe guards? So that it can be prevented from happening again? Is that not the moral of the story, when look at pictures from these events? It happened, is the past, so lets learn from it. After all we can all agree also that any person you meet, if you look back far enough you shared a common relative so that makes us all at the very least cousins
Well we can agree these were times in history that we don't want to see happen again. So should we put in safe guards?
Yes most intellectual and empathic people would agree in my opinion.
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So that it can be prevented from happening again?
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Is that not the moral of the story, when look at pictures from these events?
Yes very observant of you Peter.
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It happened, is the past, so lets learn from it. After all we can all agree also that any person you meet, if you look back far enough you shared a common relative so that makes us all at the very least cousins Smile
Yes we are all related too even those who act out the worst among us.
I would like to share something new with you that I just learned. You should know by now that not all people who have schizophrenia behave the same way or have the same characters they just share some things in common.
What I would like you to also know "if you do not already know is that not all sociopaths behave immoral or at least to the point that we have demonized them to be.
He's like a bloody Jehovah's Witness, actually he's a lot worse. I'd rather spent a day with that bunch reading back issues of The Watchtower than watch another one of RL's shitty videos.
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JTT
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Fri 23 Aug, 2013 04:48 pm
@farmerman,
That's a really dumb dumb thing to come from an "academic", Farmer. You oughta be ashamed of yourself.
That's a really dumb dumb thing to come from an "academic", Farmer. You oughta be ashamed of yourself.
I do not think that he realizes that Peter Jeffrey Cobb has schizophrenia and I hope that Izzy realizes that not all Jehovah wittinesses mean to be as bad as he thinks them to be.
I think farmerman is uninformed on this subject but yet he is an intellectual on evolution and I hope that Izzy may be able to see his flaws in what he said as well.
JTT would you disagree with me saying that both me and you get it wrong too at times?
