The moral differences between the holocaust and bombing Japan

Just out of curiosity, are you part of the sick "we."

I see that you produced reason and you had no replies other than thumbs up but Setanta recites history as recorded by Americans ...

You are, as always, tediously obtuse.

I was writing of the three powers in the atomic arms race:
Germany, Britain (w/Canada) and the United States.

At the time that these three powers began their research into atomic fision and its possible military uses,
Japan was not a threat on any ot those powers horizon.

You just want something to argue about. Find someone else.

". . . The Manhattan Project and the British tube alloy project
were initiated before the war began in Europe,
and before Japan was a threat on anyone's horizon. . . ."
[All emphasis has been added by David.]

We must make clear to the Germans that the wrong for which their fallen leaders are on trial is not that they lost the war, but that they started it. And we must not allow ourselves to be drawn into a trial of the causes of the war, for our position is that no grievances or policies will justify resort to aggressive war. It is utterly renounced and condemned as an instrument of policy.
Statement by Justice Jackson on War Trials Agreement (August 12, 1945).

The privilege of opening the first trial in history for crimes against the peace of the world imposes a grave responsibility. The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish have been so calculated, so malignant, and so devastating, that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored, because it cannot survive their being repeated. That four great nations, flushed with victory and stung with injury stay the hand of vengeance and voluntarily submit their captive enemies to the judgment of the law is one of the most significant tributes that Power has ever paid to Reason.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

If we can cultivate in the world the idea that aggressive war-making is the way to the prisoner's dock rather than the way to honors, we will have accomplished something toward making the peace more secure.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well.
Nuremberg Tribunal.
Opening Address to the International Military Tribunal at the Nuremberg Trials (November 10, 1945).

If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.
International Conference on Military Trials, London, 1945, Dept. of State Pub.No. 3080 (1949), p.330.

Do you really think that people can't tell the difference between an attempted genocide and a military action to achieve military goals?

First of all, I don't precisely know what you mean by the "sick we," however, on the basis of what I presume to think you mean, I am not a member of the heinous "we" group.

Your attempt to somehow mask by or associate your anti-Semitism with quotes from St Thomas or the Bible are rather pathetic.

I have always dated the start of the Second World War with the outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937. That doesn't mean that Japan was considered an eminent threat to the United States. The Einstein-Szilard letter was sent to FDR in 1939. That there was no project called the Manhattan District Project doesn't mean that there was not a program to investigate the use of atomic fission to make a bomb.

Japan wasn't in the atomic weapons race. Germany was. (emphasis has been added)

You are conveniently ignoring this post:

Setanta wrote:

I have always dated the start of the Second World War with the outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937. That doesn't mean that Japan was considered an eminent [sic] threat to the United States. The Einstein-Szilard letter was sent to FDR in 1939. That there was no project called the Manhattan District Project doesn't mean that there was not a program to investigate the use of atomic fission to make a bomb.

Japan wasn't in the atomic weapons race. Germany was. (emphasis has been added)

Which is why i say that you are being obtuse. I guess you're not "man enough" to admit that, Bubba.

Are you suggesting that there has never been tribes that used genocide as a military action to achieve military goals?

You're so desperate to find some nits to pick at.

My original post on this particular point made it clear [????]
that the atomic weapons programs began at a certain time,

when Japan was not a threat to the United States or Britain.
Are you now asserting that China had an atomic weapons program, Bubba?

You saw no date? You quoted that post--it showed that scientists at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute began their research in 1938,
and that the Szilard-Einstein letter was sent to FDR in 1939.

I saw no date cited.
I had been wondering about that, when our nuclear research began.
I imagine that, in all likelihood, it was around 1942.

You're either a liar or suffering from senile dementia.

While it is true that i did not give a date for the scientists
at the University of Birmingham in their U235 studies,
the MAUD committee in the United Kingdom was established in March, 1940.
This is well before anyone could claim that Japan was the target of atomic weapons programs,
which targeted Japan for racist reasons, which is the claim that started this entire discussion.

It's pathetic to see you preening yourself for playing the white knight with the evil Setanta.

You routinely insult and sneer at anyone who does not espouse
your reactionary political fantasies, you call people socialists
(really, not much of an insult outside the Tailgunner Joe McCarthy crowd) or commies,

and when it comes to your greatest masturbatory fantasy, handguns, you get down right vicious.