Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

oralloy should make the A2K Clueless Hall of Fame.

You'll tediously repeat the same limited set of replies...

Cut-n-paste responses are the appropriate way to respond when dealing with a freak like him.

This is like trying to have a discussion with a pre-recorded anouncement.

And he expects to be taken seriously?

His self-contradictions

From "Atheist quotes of the day" facebook page.

Parent's in The U.S have their priorities backwards, and to parents in most modern nations on this planet American parents could be considered absolutely neglectful. From the period of 1979 to 2007 the CDC reports 116,385 children under the age of 18 have been killed by firearms. That's the equivalent of 4655 classrooms with 25 kids each being murdered in that period, or 5,819 Sandy Hook incidents. Around twice as many fatalities as the Vietnam war. By comparison in the same period according to the CDC only 3,822 children died of the flu, yet every American parent feels they're doing the best job they can protecting their kids getting them vaccinated, yet do nothing to prevent gun deaths which is the real threat against them compared to the flu. Your Second Amendment rights end where your child's right to life begins. How many innocent children just wanting to see another Christmas morning need to be violently murdered for your foolish ass to feel like your freedom has been secured? Merry Christmas!"

I know that "blame the parents" is convenient, but it's completely off base.

Your Second Amendment rights end where your child's right to life begins.

How many innocent children just wanting to see another Christmas morning need to be violently murdered for your foolish ass to feel like your freedom has been secured?

Let's look at what I actually said:

Drewdad wrote:

The suggestion that we need "more good guys with guns" is like suggesting the Titanic should hit another iceberg, but on the other side of the ship.

You will see that I did not misrepresent LaPierre's position, so I did not make a strawman argument.

I disagreed with LaPierre's position, and I ridiculed LaPierre's idea, and I ridiculed his language.



And the reason is this: The Sandy Hook shooter didn't own his own guns. He got them from another source. The Columbine shooters didn't own their own guns. They got them from another source.



The real straw man around here is you. Please, go see the Wizard and get yourself a brain.

A strawman fallacy requires that an argument be misrepresented and then that argument attacked.

DrewDad listed LaPierre's actual statement and then made an analogy. The analogy can't be both a misrepresentation AND an attack on that misrepresentation at the same time. DrewDad didn't use a strawman because he didn't meet both requirements of the fallacy.

You on the other hand misrepresented DrewDad's argument when you claimed he wanted to ban guns and then your analogy was an attack on the banning guns argument. When it comes to rituals you seem to be out standing in your straw field

You on the other hand misrepresented DrewDad's argument when you claimed he wanted to ban guns and then your analogy was an attack on the banning guns argument. When it comes to rituals you seem to be out standing in your straw field

The analogy can't be both a misrepresentation AND an attack on that misrepresentation at the same time.

oralboy

You engage in name-calling because you are too stupid to come up with an intelligent argument.

From "Atheist quotes of the day" facebook page.

Parent's in The U.S have their priorities backwards, and to parents in most modern nations on this planet American parents could be considered absolutely neglectful. From the period of 1979 to 2007 the CDC reports 116,385 children under the age of 18 have been killed by firearms. That's the equivalent of 4655 classrooms with 25 kids each being murdered in that period, or 5,819 Sandy Hook incidents. Around twice as many fatalities as the Vietnam war. By comparison in the same period according to the CDC only 3,822 children died of the flu, yet every American parent feels they're doing the best job they can protecting their kids getting them vaccinated, yet do nothing to prevent gun deaths which is the real threat against them compared to the flu. Your Second Amendment rights end where your child's right to life begins. How many innocent children just wanting to see another Christmas morning need to be violently murdered for your foolish ass to feel like your freedom has been secured? Merry Christmas!"