Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

I don't believe teachers should be armed; this scenario only enforces the idea to the children that they are not safe. Some children frighten easily, and we wouldn't know what kind of harm it's doing to any child.

try fewer guns, fewer deaths

As it is the only action possible that will greatly increased the safety of children in schools

Boy, 9, charged in shooting of classmate at Washington elementary school
February 24, 2012

PORT ORCHARD, Washington – A frightened 9-year-old boy accused of accidentally shooting a classmate sat before a judge in juvenile court, crying and wearing an orange jail jumpsuit, as his father gently rubbed his back.

Thursday's scene in Washington state raised questions the court must decide: Did the boy know what he did was wrong? And is anyone else responsible?

Documents filed when the boy was charged say the gun fired Wednesday after the boy slammed his backpack down on a desk. Eight-year-old Amina Kocer-Bowman remained in critical condition.

The boy was charged with unlawful possession of a gun, bringing a dangerous weapon to school and third-degree assault. Bail was set at $50,000.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/23/washington-boy-who-brought-gun-to-school-due-in-court/#ixzz2FnceYJDR

That's not even good English ("less" pertains to a continuum)

Laws to control guns will never control guns in this country; there are just too many.Criminals will always have ways to get guns.

Just like during prohibition times when alcohol was illegal, people could still buy booze.

When there is any demand for any product, laws will not control them

I agree with your thesis, but the reality of our country is that guns exists, and more guns are being bought.

Laws to control guns will never control guns in this country; there are just too many. Criminals will always have ways to get guns. Just like during prohibition times when alcohol was illegal, people could still buy booze.

When there is any demand for any product, laws will not control them.

Those are the FACTS, and our reality.

gungasnake wrote:

try fewer guns, fewer deaths

glad to see you are starting to see the light, unlike the two little buoys on this thread who want to continue to play with their guns...

Editorial
In Other Countries, Laws Are Strict and Work

Like other shootings before it, the Newtown, Conn., tragedy has reawakened America to its national fixation with firearms. No country in the world has more guns per capita, with some 300 million civilian firearms now in circulation, or nearly one for every adult.

Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides. In the case of the United States, exponentially more: the American murder rate is roughly 15 times that of other wealthy countries, which have much tougher laws controlling private ownership of guns.
There’s another important difference between this country and the rest of the world. Other nations have suffered similar rampages, but they have reacted quickly to impose new and stricter gun laws.

Australia is an excellent example. In 1996, a “pathetic social misfit,” as a judge described the lone gunman, killed 35 people with a spray of bullets from semiautomatic weapons. Within weeks, the Australian government was working on gun reform laws that banned assault weapons and shotguns, tightened licensing and financed gun amnesty and buyback programs.

At the time, the prime minister, John Howard, said, “We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.” The laws have worked. The American Journal of Law and Economics reported in 2010 that firearm homicides in Australia dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006. In the 18 years before the 1996 laws, there were 13 gun massacres resulting in 102 deaths, according to Harvard researchers, with none in that category since.

Similarly, after 16 children and their teacher were killed by a gunman in Dunblane, Scotland, in 1996, the British government banned all private ownership of automatic weapons and virtually all handguns. Those changes gave Britain some of the toughest gun control laws in the developed world on top of already strict rules. Hours of exhaustive paperwork are required if anyone wants to own even a shotgun or rifle for hunting. The result has been a decline in murders involving firearms.

In Japan, which has very strict laws, only 11 people were killed with guns in 2008, compared with 12,000 deaths by firearms that year in the United States — a huge disparity even accounting for the difference in population. As Mayor Michael Bloomberg stressed on Monday while ratcheting up his national antigun campaign, “We are the only industrialized country that has this problem. In the whole world, the only one.”

Americans do not have to settle for that.

At the time, the prime minister, John Howard, said, “We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.”

It is an American disease--that really is the best way to describe it,

Update: 4 dead in Pennsylvania after police shootout
A gunman killed three people, including a woman inside a church, before being fatally shot by state troopers in Frankstown Township, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg.


HOLLIDAYSBURG, Pa. — A man shot and killed three people including a woman, who was decorating for a children’s Christmas party a tiny church hall in a rural central Pennsylvania township on Friday.

The shooting happened in Frankstown Township, about 70 miles west of Harrisburg. The gunman has died after a gunfight with state troopers.

The woman had cooked food the day before for the funeral of Juniata Valley Gospel Church's longtime pastor, said the Rev. James McCaulley, his brother. The central Pennsylvania church was still reeling Friday from the Rev. David McCaulley's death when the woman returned to decorate the church hall — named after the pastor of 58 years — and bullets ripped through a window, he said.

The gunman then entered and shot one of two women before he left, the Rev. James McCaulley said

Couldn't do more harm than being shot to death, could it?

Also, a fenced school area is a good barrier for anybody thinking about harming any children.

Val Killmore wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

@all

Look at Huffpost on the anti gun propaganda.
This is a country of OVER 300 MILLION PEOPLE! You could collect headlines like that of murder incidents by objects other than guns over a series of a week from our nation. People who are actually persuaded by stories like this when they weren't previously persuaded are pretty gullible people.

I challenge you to come up with a list to rival that one.

The other possible actions have to include better regulation and control of firearms and over who is able to obtain them.

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Editorial
In Other Countries, Laws Are Strict and Work

Like other shootings before it, the Newtown, Conn., tragedy has reawakened America to its national fixation with firearms. No country in the world has more guns per capita, with some 300 million civilian firearms now in circulation, or nearly one for every adult.

Experts from the Harvard School of Public Health, using data from 26 developed countries, have shown that wherever there are more firearms, there are more homicides. In the case of the United States, exponentially more: the American murder rate is roughly 15 times that of other wealthy countries, which have much tougher laws controlling private ownership of guns.
There’s another important difference between this country and the rest of the world. Other nations have suffered similar rampages, but they have reacted quickly to impose new and stricter gun laws.

Australia is an excellent example. In 1996, a “pathetic social misfit,” as a judge described the lone gunman, killed 35 people with a spray of bullets from semiautomatic weapons. Within weeks, the Australian government was working on gun reform laws that banned assault weapons and shotguns, tightened licensing and financed gun amnesty and buyback programs.

At the time, the prime minister, John Howard, said, “We do not want the American disease imported into Australia.” The laws have worked. The American Journal of Law and Economics reported in 2010 that firearm homicides in Australia dropped 59 percent between 1995 and 2006. In the 18 years before the 1996 laws, there were 13 gun massacres resulting in 102 deaths, according to Harvard researchers, with none in that category since.

Similarly, after 16 children and their teacher were killed by a gunman in Dunblane, Scotland, in 1996, the British government banned all private ownership of automatic weapons and virtually all handguns. Those changes gave Britain some of the toughest gun control laws in the developed world on top of already strict rules. Hours of exhaustive paperwork are required if anyone wants to own even a shotgun or rifle for hunting. The result has been a decline in murders involving firearms.

In Japan, which has very strict laws, only 11 people were killed with guns in 2008, compared with 12,000 deaths by firearms that year in the United States — a huge disparity even accounting for the difference in population. As Mayor Michael Bloomberg stressed on Monday while ratcheting up his national antigun campaign, “We are the only industrialized country that has this problem. In the whole world, the only one.”

Americans do not have to settle for that.

Got that?
Gun control WORKS.
Real world experience proves it.
OmSigDavid and the NRA aid and abet the murder of 18,000 people and the wounding of 100,000 more EVERY YEAR in the US.
That's SIX TIMES the deaths in 9/11, EVERY YEAR,
David, Oralloy, the NRA and their ilk are the real terrorist, and the real child murderers