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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

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BillRM
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:19 pm
@Ragman,
Sorry dear heart but every time that people wish to removed freedom the picture of children being harm is given.

Take away freedom of the internet as children might access some areas not good for them otherwise and take away guns rights due to a few nuts cases using guns as a mean of killing defenseless children even if there are many means of killing twenty young children all trap in a small room.
BillRM
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:24 pm
@Region Philbis,
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there are some scary gun nutjobs out there, folks.

they all have blood on their hands...


The people with the blood on their hands are the news media that did a week or so of wall to wall coverage so any sick person know that to get fames all you needed to do is to killed children

Next we have a group of people who do not wish to take the steps to provide real protections to children but instead promote a worthless ban of one type of rifle that is no more deadly then similar type rifles.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:37 pm
@BillRM,
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Re: Region Philbis (Post 5202302)
Quote:
there are some scary gun nutjobs out there, folks.

they all have blood on their hands...


The people with the blood on their hands are the news media that did a week or so of wall to wall coverage so any sick person know that to get fames all you needed to do is to killed children

Next we have a group of people who do not wish to take the steps to provide real protections to children but instead promote a worthless ban of one type of rifle that is no more deadly then similar type rifles.


Sounds to me, Bill, that you realize there will probably be more killings...and you are trying to deflect the blame for those killings when they come onto the media so that the brunt of it doesn't fall where it properly belongs...with the fact that we have too many weapons in the hands of people who are nuts.

I agree with you that many (probably MOST) gun owners are decent, law-abiding, reasonable, rational, sane individuals who will be careful with their weapons and have a right to own them.

But it doesn't take many of the relatively "few" who are nuts to turn the country into a killing field.

When the next killing comes...and "the next killing" WILL COME...it will not be the fault of the media. And some of the blame properly should fall on the decent, law-abiding, reasonable, rational, sane individuals who are careful with their weapons and have a right to own them. In fact, a hell of a lot more of the blame should fall on the decent, law-abiding, reasonable, rational, sane individuals who are careful with their weapons and have a right to own them...than on the media.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:46 pm
@Frank Apisa,
the password is "monkey slut"
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H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:49 pm
@Frank Apisa,


FrankA, it sounds as though you also realize there will probably be more killings.
There have been at least four such evil happenings under Obama's watch... why
would you expect the situation (any situation) to improve with Obama as president?
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BillRM
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:51 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Bill, that you realize there will probably be more killings...and you are trying to deflect the blame for those killings


As long as people such as you do not allowed armed security in public gun free zones and instead promote completely worthless bans on one type of rifles of course there will likely be more killings of defenseless people be them children or otherwise.

A numbers of copycats had either occur or was found out and block in time after columbine the shooters or would be shooters looking to beat the body count of those two killers and I do not sadly see why such is not likely to occur after the Newtown shootings.
spendius
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:51 pm
@BillRM,
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The people with the blood on their hands are the news media that did a week or so of wall to wall coverage so any sick person know that to get fames all you needed to do is to killed children


The Constitution protects Media's right to do that.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac160/The_H2O_MAN/M14-BAYONET.jpg
spendius
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:57 pm
@H2O MAN,
What is the production cost of a weapon like that off an assembly line?

And what is its retail price.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:57 pm
@spendius,


Those rightfully outraged by the evil that has visited the school
in Connecticut should focus their attention on the 1st amendment
and how it is being abused by politicians and the left wing media.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 01:59 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
The Constitution protects Media's right to do that.


Of course it does that however does not mean that pressure could not be places on them not to help in producing copycats.

A few experts speaking up on how and why copycats are produce and why such over the top coverage of this event can result in more deaths would be helpful.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:01 pm
@spendius,
1960's production cost was less than $200.00 for the select fire main battle rifle my rifles are patterned after.

Semi automatic copies of the M14 retail from about $2000.00 and usually go for more than $4000.00
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Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:03 pm
@BillRM,
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Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5202338)
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Bill, that you realize there will probably be more killings...and you are trying to deflect the blame for those killings



As long as people such as you do not allowed armed security in public gun free zones and instead promote completely worthless bans on one type of rifles of course there will likely be more killings of defenseless people be them children or otherwise.


I don't suppose you would be willing to cite one instance in the 15 years and thousands of posts I have made on the Internet where I promoted completely worthless bans on one type of rifle.

Don't try to find any...I've never done it.

In any case, I stand by my remark that people like you, assuming you are a responsible gun owner, will bear more responsibility and blame for any future killings than the media.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:06 pm
@BillRM,


One of my clients is 83 and I watched some of the news coverage of the evil doers deeds with her. She was upset because she has family in Connecticut. I pointed out that the event was on the other side of the state and that her people should be safe.

We spoke of how the media would stir the pot and broadcast a step-by-step 'how to' for evil dummies as time went on. She agreed that it would happen, but neither of us anticipated that the media would do such a great job of it as they have here.
spendius
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:10 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Of course it does that however does not mean that pressure could not be places on them not to help in producing copycats.

A few experts speaking up on how and why copycats are produce and why such over the top coverage of this event can result in more deaths would be helpful.


I thought you would have an easy, off the cuff, pat answer which means **** all.
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spendius
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:11 pm
@Frank Apisa,
The thing about responsible etc gun owners Frank is that they are only responsible etc. until they stop being.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:14 pm
@H2O MAN,
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Re: BillRM (Post 5202371)


One of my clients is 83 and I watched some of the news coverage of the evil doers deeds with her. She was upset because she has family in Connecticut. I pointed out that the event was on the other side of the state and that her people should be safe.

We spoke of how the media would stir the pot and broadcast a step-by-step 'how to' for evil dummies as time went on. She agreed that it would happen, but neither of us anticipated that the media would do such a great job of it as they have here.


Imagine that rotten media thinking that just because the Constitution gives them the right to publish the news...they can publish the news.

Maybe you should tell them it is in the interest of the country and the country's well-being if they simply withheld the news despite the fact that the Constitution says what it says.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:15 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
The thing about responsible etc gun owners Frank is that they are only responsible etc. until they stop being.


I know...and that is the sad part about it.

I liked your constitutional remark earlier...and expanded on it in my reply to H2O. Chances are he won't get it, though.
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H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:18 pm
@spendius,


I guess that sounded good in your head and looked good as you typed it, but it's not rational.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 02:19 pm
@Frank Apisa,


Your logic applied:

Maybe you should tell them it is in the interest of the country and the country's well-being if
they simply give up the right to bear arms despite the fact that the Constitution says what it says.

 

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