Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

The overwhelming portion of Americans do not agree with selling assault rifles as easily as they are today. When are we going to stop these few nuts from making our laws?

Will there be a 'National Nuclear Weapons' association some day? Proposing that everyone needs one of those?

Until we learn to make better people we have to deal with the ones that are already here. In large numbers people wish to shoot people. Those of us who do not approve the wholesale slaughter of innocents do not want those people to get their hands on these weapons of mass destruction. Most are willing to let there be passed laws to that effect.

And when do you suppose our government is going to subjugate our citizens as they do in North Korea?

This year? Next Year? When?

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Do you think the world was less violent before guns were invented?

SOunds like youre tiring of making a real debate out of this, this sounds like youre attempting to justify the kids actions based upon archeological evidence that cavemen were violent beings.

You really have gotta do better than that, and you know it.

Ill make believe you didnt post that and you get a freebie.

Then let the American people decide. I don't think your prediction will hold up. Most Americans are fed up with this nonsense.

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Aren't you worried that disarmament will lead to subsequent further loss of liberties. You give them an inch, they take it a mile.
You're not worried about dictatorship?

No, I don't worry about those things at all.

I'm more worried about living in a country where everyone walks around armed and ready to take the law into their own hands.

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Can you please tell me what a "semi-automtic" gun is? Because that is what Edgar suggested to ban entirely

semi-auto means one trigger pull = one shot. ALL assault weapons sold to the public are semi auto. There are a few semi auto sport rifles but these arent of the "Assault style" . They dont carry a mega clip. SPorting guns are limited to 3 or 5 cartridges in the gun and one in the breech.

The distinction isnt worth a debate. Ill concede that there exist a few makes of semi auto sport guns, but you admit that all assault guns under this discussion are semi auto (some, like the Bushmaster 223 can be converted to full auto as I said before, that turns em into a class that the Canadians call PROHIBITED and we call "dangerous weapons" (which are prohibited without special assignment type licenses and are only useable as assigned protection by such folks as explosives carriers and Brinks (or such) transporters of precious metals, and , of course para=military (police) and DOE nuke rods, weapons, triggers , yellow and redcake, UF6, and nuke power plant guards.

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There was an "assault weapon ban" that was useless and only banned "military looking" weapons and did nothing to decrease crime, it was completely useless peice of legislation.

It was designed as "Useless" It , for the most part, was an idea that wasnt even tried properly. AS I SAID before, assault weapons were "GRANDFATHERED" as long as they were already in someones ownership or inventory. SO, if the weapon already existed at the effective date of the assault weapon ban, IT WAS LEGAL. Thats total politically motivated dickless BULLSHIT. So please dont say it was useless, cause the concept wasnt even tried.

Its like banning guns in New York City so you then go out to Peekskill to buy your Bushmaster, and then go down to Harrisburg to buy te sear pin, and then over to Richmond to buy the connectors, and tadaa, youve got a full auto .223 Bushmasetr, on the way back home, you stop in West Virginia and buy a banana clip.. Youre being purpoely blind to a condition that goes on in our country every fuckin day. Its a goddam shootinggallery out there and I know for a fact that the NRA "Sporting members" are in themajority, all for meaningful control, and banning of these people killer guns. Its just that the NRA, as it is now constitutd, is a lobby for the gun manufacturers, not the sportsmen. The politicians that are in favor of lax gun laws are in the pockets of the NRA and its ability for political largesse

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Are you serious?

Aren't you worried that disarmament will lead to subsequent further loss of liberties. You give them an inch, they take it a mile.

You're not worried about dictatorship?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Australia

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. However, in the last two decades of the century, following several high profile multiple murders and a media campaign, the Australian government co-ordinated more restrictive firearms legislation with all state governments. Australia today has arguably some of the most restrictive firearms legislation in the world.

Currently, about 5.2% of Australian adults (765,000 people)[1] own and use firearms for purposes such as hunting, controlling feral animals, collecting, and target shooting.

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Current Australian firearm laws

State laws govern the possession and use of firearms in Australia. These laws were largely aligned under the 1996 National Agreement on Firearms.

Anyone wishing to possess or use a firearm must have a Firearms Licence and, with some exceptions, be over the age of 18. Owners must have secure storage for their firearms.

Before someone can buy a firearm, he or she must obtain a Permit To Acquire. The first permit has a mandatory 28-day delay before it is first issued. In some states (e.g., Queensland, Victoria, and New South Wales), this is waived for second and subsequent firearms of the same class.

For each firearm a "Genuine Reason" must be given, relating to pest control, hunting, target shooting, or collecting. Self-defence is not accepted as a reason for issuing a license, even though it may be legal under certain circumstances to use a legally held firearm for self-defence.[2]

Each firearm in Australia must be registered to the owner by serial number. Some states allow an owner to store or borrow another person's registered firearm of the same category.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Canada

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Registration of firearms in Canada has been an issue since the 1930s when the registration of handguns became mandatory. Over the past few decades, legislation had become increasingly restrictive for firearm owners and from 1995 until 2012, all firearms were required to be registered. As of April 6, 2012, the registration of non-restricted firearms is no longer required in any province or territory, except for Quebec, pending litigation. Systematic auditing of firearm owners and sports is implemented and enforced in most of Central Canada,[1][2] and to a lesser extent, in Western Canada (in most cases firearm ownership regulations vary slightly in different provinces and territories, where some provinces have decided to mandate their own laws, such as the Quebec Bill 9 course, which is mandatory for all owners of restricted firearms).[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Canada

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It is effectively illegal to carry concealed handguns in Canada. There is a permit[7] that allows people to carry if they can prove they need to protect their lives under specific circumstances, but the permit is very rarely issued to civilians.[

Both Canada and Australia have conducted gun buybacks over the past couple of decades.

No dictatorships in sight.

The dumbmasses that voted for Obama are very different.

the GOP is more anti-freedom then the Democrats except on the gun laws issue.

more anti-freedom