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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

 
 
JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:23 am
@H2O MAN,
Hi there, American Insanity. How the Georgia cracker doin' today?
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JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:26 am
@H2O MAN,
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Because the criminals ran out of innocent people to murder.


This from the guy who JUST finished writing,

Only a moron would debate the issue in such a fashion
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:32 am
@ehBeth,
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do you really think that Americans are so much different from the rest of the developed world?


Yup. I think we are a lot more pig-headed...and a mite less mature.

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and if so, not just how but why?


The "why" of the matter is also the rub of the matter. We have been graced with one of the most important experiments in individual freedom any large group of people have ever had offered to them. It is, so it seems to me, like a kid being granted a lot of freedom...with the "to be expected" bad decisions and consequences.

I think we can make improvements...but my point was to realize that baby steps may work better than "whole hog." Yup, I agree with the gun lovers (of which I am not one) on that notion.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:34 am
@JTT,
how do we protect kids right now (today) in a way that works

-gun free school zones..... aren't - politicians advertise that kids aren't safe
-we protect all our important things with armed security... .why not our kids? we leave them defenseless every day - this is known and exploited
-some asshole with a NRA kills kids banner protesting....dumbass
-we have an unknown number of genuine monsters in our society
-how many copy cats are waiting while we have a media that glorifies them in the ways they want
-our country refuses to make a database of the mentally ill - which doesn't even touch on the criminals in our society, whom we refuse to process correctly in the cj system
-speaking of violent video games
-violent movies and music videos
-media perpetuates these violent images in a "race to the bottom"
-another banner protester........ they're out in force today
-media demonizes gun owners rather than face their own faults, hold back meaningful changes
-media perpetuates lies regarding guns and that new laws will protect us
-the teachers and police couldn't stop the killing - the only way to stop a monster is a plan of absolute action.

-the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun - is a good guy with a gun

-heading off the press headlines tomorrow
-when did "gun" become a bad word - secret service, military and police all have "good" guns - so why are they bad when it's used to protect our kids in our schools
-it's not just our duty to protect them - it's our right to protect them
-NRA said we should put armed security in schools after VT shooting - media called NRA crazy - what if we had done that
-is the press and politicians so blinded by their hate of the NRA and gun owners that they will allow people to remain in danger
-can't we afford to put a police officer in every school
-and even if we did that - congress has no right to restrict our own ability to protect ourselves
-we have a trained core of individuals who can go NOW and make our schools safe (police, military etc)
-calls on congress to act immediately to put armed police/guards in every school - BEFORE kids go back to school in January
-every school in america needs a protection program - which means armed security
-we need a cordon of protection around our kids and every school will have its own specific need
-NRA has 11000 police training instructors who are ready, willing and able to help immediately - it was done in WWII, it's done with kids (eddie the eagle), and they'll do it again today
-NRA will bring all its resources to develop a model program for every school that wants it - multi-faceted security program
-budget will be provided by the NRA for whatever scope is required for this
-if we cherish our children more than sports stadiums, money, etc - the only way to do it is with properly trained, armed, good guys
-NRA will make the program available free of charge to every school that wants it - and will also push the program world wide to any school
-calling for us to come together, not divide over this issue

-nothing more critical than our children's well being
-parents need to have confidence in their safety
-most up to date template for every school to tweak and tailor
-armed security will be A component - but not the only
-decisions on armed security made at the local level
-does not require any large outlays of money from state/local/federal
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:37 am
@ehBeth,
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do you really think that Americans are so much different from the rest of the developed world?


The dumbmasses that voted for Obama are very different.
Frank Apisa
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:39 am
@tsarstepan,
@ALL

Since we all seem to agree that it makes sense to keep guns out of the hands of people with questionable sanity...

...how many of you think that denying guns to some of the pro-gun posters on A2K would be a good place to start?
parados
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:41 am
@H2O MAN,
Since the NRA is proposing the Federal government put a police officer in every school and the Federal goverment pay for it.
And since the Federal government is currently running a $ 1 Trillion deficit
And since there are currently 300 million guns in the US.

I propose we impose a $25 per gun licensing fee to be paid to the Federal government on a yearly basis with the money dedicated to safety from gun attacks.

What do you think Spurt? You willing to put up the money to keep your guns safe and the rest of us safe?
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:44 am
@parados,

And since your president ran up the debt so much I guess the kiddies are not important.
Their blood is on the hands of democrats.

I have put up my money to keep myself and others safe.
I invested in quality firearms and train with them.

What have you done?
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:46 am
@Frank Apisa,
Solution: denying food to some of the anti-gun posters on A2K would be a good place to start
JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:48 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Solution: denying food to some of the anti-gun posters on A2K would be a good place to start


This from the guy who JUST finished writing,

Only a moron would debate the issue in such a fashion
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JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:49 am
@H2O MAN,
Who'd ya get to type all that out for you, Gc?
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H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:50 am
@parados,


I was surprised to finally see the NRA stand up for us and offer common sense solutions.
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parados
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:50 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:


And since your president ran up the debt so much I guess the kiddies are not important.
Their blood is on the hands of democrats.

I have put up my money to keep myself and others safe.
I invested in quality firearms and train with them.

What have you done?

Since you won't pay to keep your guns, then I propose we take them away. Clearly you have no interest in being part of society which makes you a threat to society.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:54 am
@parados,


That would not be a smart or legal thing to do, but that's the democrat way... the new norm
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JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:55 am
@parados,
H2O MAN wrote:
And since your president ran up the debt so much I guess ...

What have you done?

====

Since you won't pay to keep your guns, then I propose we take them away. Clearly you have no interest ... .


Two Georgia crackers having a little tiff.
H2O MAN
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:57 am
@JTT,
JTT, wants black Americans to die.
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parados
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 11:57 am
@JTT,
Polly sure likes her crackers
Region Philbis
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:02 pm
@parados,

my christmas wish is for the gov't to raid waterbuoy's house and take away all his guns...
JTT
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:02 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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We have been graced with one of the most important experiments in individual freedom any large group of people have ever had offered to them.


More feel good propaganda, Frank. Helps to take the edge off your grand delusions.

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BillRM
 
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Fri 21 Dec, 2012 12:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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and I think the mentality that prevails is that of Charlton Heston, "You will only take them away by prying them from my cold, dead hands."


Damn right we are not going to placed ourselves in the situation where whoever control the government can take away every one of our freedoms at whim.

The US was founder by people that did not trust governments and as Thomas Jefferson stated

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty"

An as Mai Tse-tung stated

“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”
 

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