Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

Christ, you gotta wonder what is in the water these days!

a 'feel good' gun ban world

The 'feel good' laws didn't stop this recent evil action, what makes the libs think a 'feel good' gun ban world change anything?

. Relying on what worked in the 18th Century in these matters is absurd.

Meanwhile, while these immutable principles of law and morals have continued to embody the habits of thought of a bygone age, the industrial system............is of the twentieth century and is in no respect and in no degree immutable; quite the contrary in fact. While modern men continue to boast and laud the changeless antiquity and stability of the rules which govern their industrial relations, it is at the same time their pride and boast that the industrial arts which condition their behavior under these rules are forever changing, progressively and at an ever-accelerating rate. In time, immutable rules of conduct enforced under progressively changing conditions should logically result in a muddle.

There is, of course, nothing particularly new or peculiarly civilised* about this obstinate assumption that the main specifications of the legal and moral code are ancient and immutable. Indeed, it is quite the usual thing among the common run of barbarians and savages, ancient and contemporary.

a bdsm bogger that i follow who is autistic and who has an autistic chemically imbalanced son says that a major problem hits at 18yo. parents at that point lose the ability to force treatment, and the courts are very loath to do so, so these young people drop out till they hurt someone. i would not be surprised if it turns out here that the mom was trying to pressure the kid to go back to treatment but he was refusing.

Individuals with autism spectrum disorders, who are often bullied in school and in the workplace, frequently do suffer from depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts. A divorce mediator who met with the parents of Adam Lanza, the gunman, during their divorce told The Associated Press that the couple had said that their son’s condition had been diagnosed as Asperger syndrome.

But experts say there is no evidence that they are more likely than any other group to commit violent crimes.

“Aggression in autism spectrum disorders is almost never directed to people outside the family or immediate caregivers, is almost never planned, and almost never involves weapons,” said Dr. Catherine Lord, director of the Center for Autism and the Developing Brain at NewYork-Presbyterian hospital. “Each of these aspects of the current case is more common in other populations than autism.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/health/fearing-a-stigma-for-people-with-autism.html

It's important for the public to know that the gunman's actions can't be linked with autism spectrum disorders, said Dr. Max Wiznitzer, a pediatric neurologist and autism expert at Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital in Cleveland.

"Aggression and violence in the ASD population is reactive, not preplanned and deliberate," he said...

"When you talk about autism or anything on the autism spectrum, you're talking about a neural disorder," said CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta. "I think the terms do matter here. Second of all, just this whole idea that it's linked with violence in some way and specifically pre-planned violence, I think we can dispense with that."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/health/connecticut-shooting-autism/index.html

i would not be surprised if it turns out here that the mom was trying to pressure the kid to go back to treatment but he was refusing...

she agrees with me that bad gun control is not the problem, that it is a bad mental health system.

Don't expect to have a logical discussion with Frank Ap because it's not going to happen.

Just announcing that all government schools will now have an unspecified number of armed adults that are trained to eliminate evil threats to the students will decrease this kind of senseless attack on the once unarmed and unprotected schools

Re: spendius (Post 5199882)
There are only three valid reasons for opposing strict gun control--

1--guns as a sexual fetish

--fear of one's fellow citizens

Assault weapons are not "military style". They merely have harmless cosmetic features like a pistol grip and a flash suppressor.

And Americans have the right to have both assault weapons and handguns.

Justice Scalia added that laws banning “dangerous and unusual weapons” are “another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms.” He gave an example: “M-16 rifles and the like.”

When the case was argued in 2008, Justice Scalia suggested that other kinds of weapons and ammunition could be regulated.

Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5199889)
You're attempting to tie the evil actions of a Muslim terrorists to the recent evil actions in Connecticut... please continue.

An we should have a ban on fire extinguishers as having them mean an irrational fear of fire and a lack of faith in the fire department.