Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

I don't think I should have to!!! That's such an easy inference to make!! A screwdriver can't fire bullets! Let alone fire hundreds in minutes! All you can do is beat someone with a screwdriver,

I don't think I should have to!!! That's such an easy inference to make!! A screwdriver can't fire bullets! Let alone fire hundreds in minutes! All you can do is beat someone with a screwdriver, but you can instantly kill someone with a gun. I can't even believe I have to explain this...

Actually David's screwdriver is also a gun, as is his umbrella, egg whisk, coffee machine and g string.

But I don't want ANY people killed

I just heard on Fox News that membership of the NRA is $550 per annum.

Is that correct?

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It has ALREADY been pointed out in this thread
that no one has a Constitutional Right to work for the NRA.

And it has already been pointed out in this thread
that no one has an unlimited Constitutional Right to anything.

Joe(you know that's true, you just won't admit it)Nation

For instance, I have an unlimited Constitutional Right to read the Wall St. Journal
as ofen as I wanna, or to buy as many handguns as I wanna
because government has NO jurisdiction in that area of human experience.

No, you don't have either.

That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. -

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

So.. your argument is that we can change government when something upsets us EXCEPT when it is gun ownership? I think you fail to see the gaping holes in your arguments Bill.

You are only digging your gaping hole deeper Bill.

In no manner or in no way as I and the founding fathers had already stated that the forced change of government is the last resort not the first or the second or the third and so on and concern major issues not small ones.

So you are arguing that gun ownership is not a major issue and it won't matter if we restrict it? That seems completely opposite of the argument you have been making.

The disarming of the American people is being fought with great success within the current framework of the government so while such a disarming would be a major event it is not happening at this time.

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So you are arguing that gun ownership is not a major issue and it won't matter if we restrict it? That seems completely opposite of the argument you have been making.

So you can not read?

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The disarming of the American people is being fought with great success within the current framework of the government so while such a disarming would be a major event it is not happening at this time.

all our freedoms including gun ownership of the population is important and the attempts to disarmed the public would be a first step to making more possible the setting up of a government dictatorship

Yes, I can read BillRM.
BillRM wrote:

all our freedoms including gun ownership of the population is important and the attempts to disarmed the public would be a first step to making more possible the setting up of a government dictatorship

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.