Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

@Walter Hinteler,

As the 7th Circuit US Court of Appeals put it:
the place where a citizen has a right to defend himself
is the place where he is attacked. Moore v. Madigan

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@RABEL222,

As it is interpretated by today's gun right advocates who seem to think any common sense gun regulations infringes on their rights to form militias, I guess it does. Its crazy.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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WASHINGTON — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says the Constitution’s right to bear arms isn’t absolute and could be changed in the future.

Scalia, a card-carrying conservative and stalwart of the Court’s right-leaning majority, told “Fox News Sunday” that the Second Amendment’s language allowing citizens the right to own weapons doesn’t mean they can own any weapon they want.

“There are some limitations that can be imposed,” Scalia said. “What they are will depend on what the society understood were reasonable limitations at the (future) time.”

In a controversial 2008 decision, the Supreme Court declared a handgun ban enacted by the District of Columbia unconstitutional, but the majority noted that, nonetheless, gun ownership was not an unlimited right, said Scalia, who wrote the opinion in that case.

“It will have to be decided in future cases what limitations upon the right to bear arms are permissible,” he added. “Some undoubtedly are.”

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

As it is interpretated by today's gun right advocates who seem to think any common sense gun regulations

Referring to civil rights violations as "common sense" does not change the reality that they are civil rights violations.

revelette wrote:

infringes on their rights to form militias,

Pretending that the Constitution says something other than what it says, does not change what it actually says.

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

Quote:
WASHINGTON — Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says the Constitution’s right to bear arms isn’t absolute and could be changed in the future.

Scalia, a card-carrying conservative and stalwart of the Court’s right-leaning majority, told “Fox News Sunday” that the Second Amendment’s language allowing citizens the right to own weapons doesn’t mean they can own any weapon they want.

“There are some limitations that can be imposed,” Scalia said. “What they are will depend on what the society understood were reasonable limitations at the (future) time.”

In a controversial 2008 decision, the Supreme Court declared a handgun ban enacted by the District of Columbia unconstitutional, but the majority noted that, nonetheless, gun ownership was not an unlimited right, said Scalia, who wrote the opinion in that case.

“It will have to be decided in future cases what limitations upon the right to bear arms are permissible,” he added. “Some undoubtedly are.”

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The fact that there are limits is not too significant, since the Democrats are ignoring those limits and pushing for outright violations of the Constitution.

Maybe if the Democrats were willing to respect the limits of the Constitution it would matter more what those limits were. But most Democrats hate the Constitution FAR too much for anything like that. And those few Democrats who do care about the Constitution, have very little say in the Democratic Party right now.

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@oralloy,

The heart of the philosophy of that party
is economic egalitarianism, accomplished
by distorting and undermining the Constitution's
defense of the liberty of the Individual citizen.
It is the representation of authoritarian
collectivism in America.

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@OmSigDAVID,

You might need that to compete Dave. The population of the US when the Constitution was thought up was about 3 million. Philadelphia contained 50,ooo.

It was Parish Pump stuff compared to now. No electricity, no sewers, no roads, little literacy and industry. a person could be heard only as far as he could shout. A trip to Florida was a major undertaking.

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@spendius,

Liberty remains what it always was
(and I do not "compete").

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

A hermit will describe liberty for you. When people start getting mystical about the concept of liberty one knows one is in the company of a diddico. (A dull witted person whom the educational system was unable to ameliorate.)

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@OmSigDAVID,

You do compete, your wealth is in dollars, and the dollar competes with other currencies.

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@spendius,

Liberty = the incapacity of government.
Domestic jurisdiction and personal freedom
r INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.

David

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@izzythepush,

My wealth n my personal being remain distinct.
I just relax n have a pleasant time.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Liberty = the incapacity of government.

We all know that Dave. It is THE GIANT of all political FACTS and has been known to be for a few thousand years. You could even say that there are no other political facts.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Dave--have you ever practiced law in jurisdictions where there existed restrictions on abortions and gun ownnership and sexually explicit public performances? All three being capacities of government.

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@spendius,

I believe in progressively curtailing, constricting, n strangling
the domestic jd of government, aggrandizing liberty of the Individual citizen n lowering taxes each year.

David

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I get so easily confused. Didn't we invade Afghanistan BECAUSE they were forming well-organised militia?

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I believe in progressively curtailing, constricting, n strangling
the domestic jd of government, aggrandizing liberty of the Individual citizen n lowering taxes each year.

Right Dave! Running away from the question eh? Wor a wimp.

You want to "lower" taxes. Aaaaah!!

Not up for abolishing them then?

Faint heart never won fair lady.

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@hingehead,

I think it was because the military and associated contractors wouldn't be able to do the Bilko scenario for long without questions being asked.

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@spendius,

I practiced law in New York.
It has been guilty of usurpations of power.

I am not a 1OO% anarchist.

David

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@spendius,

I used to love that show; Phil Silvers.
The writing was hilarious.

David

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