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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

 
 
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2013 01:54 pm
@genefog2,
Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5272116)
That is the kind of response that ignorant ones always resort to when facts kick their ass. Name calling and childishness, nothing productive. That's why you people are good for the rest of us with common sense to amuse ourselves with. You cant handle facts or face reality. It's hilarious. Since all you can do now is hurl insults I wont confuse you with reality and mess up your dream world. You do, however make good targets for psychos, and you are perfect puppets for the idiots pushing their gun control agenda because truth is beyond your grasp. Cast your little votes and sign your little petitions for gun control. Whats the first thing you do when you are in a pinch? Call for someone with a gun to save you. Fortunately they arrive too late in most cases and the gene pool of ignorance goes down by that much.


My comment to you was not name-calling.

You are a gas, Gene! Wink
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2013 08:34 pm
@genefog2,
Quote:
, the one place that has the lowest crime favors guns the most: Israel.


Are you suggesting that Israel has the lowest crime ? What part of Israel are you referring to? I do realize that there is a population among them that they send their criminals to live among so that they may learn to be civil but are you being serious that Israel as a whole is the most crime free? Laughing


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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2013 09:00 pm
@genefog2,
Have you figured out how to print yours yet?

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oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 8 Mar, 2013 12:51 am
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
my position is not about banning weapons, but fully enforcing the laws you listed, including having background checks on buyers and sellers of ALL gun purchases or exchanges. (That would include your Uncle Billy giving you his old shotgun.)


So long as the Democrats insist on abusing the background check system by making it a backdoor gun registration list, and by using it to bar law abiding citizens from buying guns, it is necessary to block the expansion of background checks.



Joe Nation wrote:
I would like to make it extremely difficult to own a handgun in the USA, extremely difficult to buy or sell one as a private citizen and highly unlikely that someone would ever be able to own more than three weapons, other than collectables that have been made non-functional.


You would like to violate the Constitutional rights of all Americans.



Joe Nation wrote:
Doing that over the next ten years would prevent 125,000 gunshot murders and 200,000 gunshot suicides.


As if being killed with a knife instead of a gun made someone less dead?



Joe Nation wrote:
There would still be murders and suicides, just not as many, and not done as easily as they are today.


No, there would still be just as many as today.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 8 Mar, 2013 03:21 am
Have just realised, courtesy of rand Paul, that the 2nd amendment falls short if the POTUS can use drones against armed militia fighting government tyranny

Funny how the evolution of science, society and technology makes any static document look silly eventually.
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 8 Mar, 2013 06:10 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
Have just realised, courtesy of rand Paul, that the 2nd amendment falls short if the POTUS can use drones against armed militia fighting government tyranny


Drones carry a small number of weapons, useful for blowing up a single house, but not really good for sustained bombardment of a battlefield. And they are not going to be of much use if the base that launches them is overrun.

More to the point: Stinger Missiles. Twisted Evil
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Fri 8 Mar, 2013 07:27 am
@oralloy,
Drones...

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/georgiab2/drone_zpse7d01b67.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 8 Mar, 2013 08:36 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Drones carry a small number of weapons, useful for blowing up a single house, but not really good for sustained bombardment of a battlefield. And they are not going to be of much use if the base that launches them is overrun.


Then again they are only useful if your enemy have no air defenses of any kind as even a small arm civilian aircraft should be more then a match for the current drones.
genefog2
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 08:03 am
@BillRM,
There are alot of good points here. As stated, all the new laws do is make it tougher for law abiding citizens to get and own guns while criminals have free reign in our schools and public buildings. Much of the time Americans do shoot each other in rits of rage and this goes back to the overall breakdown of morals and discipline in our society. It is no longer acceptable to discipline kids, its considered abuse even when it is not that tough of discpline. Then we have the "just let it go" mentality and we are told that to do something about evil "isnt worth it". As a result the kids grow up with no morals or ethics, cold toward others and the idea that what they want they damn well better get. Bad hands for owning anything dangerous.

On the other hand, the rest of us who do not reach for a gun in a fit of rage continually hear of our rights being threatened and eroded and gun ban fanatics pushing for us to be punished for the deeds of others. That is the fight we face. You remember back in school when the teacher would punish the entire class because Jimmy did wrong. It's the same with us. We are not psychos, mentally disturbed or angry people, but much of society wants us treated as if we are and disarmed. Yet the man who doesnt believe in owning guns and gets drunk friday night and kills someone thinks having his car taken away is unfair. Same thing, different weapon.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 11 Mar, 2013 10:17 am
@genefog2,
There something that smell to high heaven over this large scale media back campaign to take/limit americans guns rights at the same time that the murder rate in the country is at a fifty years low and even the rare mass cases of murders are less common then at other periods in our history.

No large scale media campaigns however to get the jails and the police out of being the primary handlers of the violently/seriously mentally ill and the opening of mental hospitals in the place of local jails.

No support to offer armed security to our children either strangely as if there is a desire to keep such rare mass killings events happening as a reason to limit gun rights.

No campaign to deal with the reasons other then guns that the leading causes of young blacks males deaths are other young black males or to stop the large scale funding of drug gangs due to the so call war on drugs.

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hingehead
 
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Reply Tue 9 Apr, 2013 05:23 pm
NJ police: 6-year-old clings to life after he was shot -- by a 4-year-old
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/09/us/new-jersey-child-shooting/index.html

If only there was a 3- year old with a gun there to prevent this.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 9 Apr, 2013 06:28 pm
@BillRM,
http://gdb.voanews.com/96DA0E96-1472-450F-AE13-87CC5B038775_w640_r1_s.jpg

BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Drones carry a small number of weapons, useful for blowing up a single house, but not really good for sustained bombardment of a battlefield. And they are not going to be of much use if the base that launches them is overrun.


Then again they are only useful if your enemy have no air defenses of any kind as even a small arm civilian aircraft should be more then a match for the current drones.


Drones implies that there are more than one.

http://www.carlsontoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/droneCOLOR.gif
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 03:49 pm
Well done USA political system. The NRA gets it's way against the will of 90% of Americans and 80% of gun owners.

Good old democracy.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 03:53 pm
@hingehead,
Obama saying 90% of Americans supported his anti constitutional plans is a lie.

America won a big victory today - our politicians did the right thing.

Obama is a sore looser and a acting like a little bitch.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 04:17 pm


Obama sounded angrier about losing this gun ban scheme of his than
he was about the Benghazi attack and the murder of four Americans.

He still hasn't resolved what happened in Benghazi, has he...
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 04:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Obama is a sore looser and a acting like a little bitch.

he is such an idiot that he does not see how his being a prick keeps him from getting what he wants. the background check idea was possible in some form, and had he tried to deal with the nuts that would have passed easily. what we have here is the schoolyard bully who makes it clear that he has no interest in working with others immediately playing the victim when others dont do exactly what he wants them to do.

if given the chance to get stuff done as the leader of the nation over being a D fighter would he ever consider doing so? I dont think we know.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 05:23 pm
@hawkeye10,


Me thinks Obama and his ilk want the issue alive so they can blame
republicans for the next insane act with a gun in this country...

Obama and his ilk are determined to make all Americans victims by
disarming them... they will continue to try and destroy the 2nd amendment.

America must remain vigilant.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 05:44 pm
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
Re: hawkeye10 (Post 5305554)


Me thinks Obama and his ilk want the issue alive so they can blame
republicans for the next insane act with a gun in this country...

Obama and his ilk are determined to make all Americans victims by
disarming them... they will continue to try and destroy the 2nd amendment.

America must remain vigilant.


After the first two words, it was hard for me to read the rest of this post without laughing out loud.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 07:36 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I already blame the repubs for the next shooting.
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 17 Apr, 2013 08:45 pm
Gifford in the NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/opinion/a-senate-in-the-gun-lobbys-grip.html

Salient quote:

Quote:
This defeat is only the latest chapter of what I’ve always known would be a long, hard haul. Our democracy’s history is littered with names we neither remember nor celebrate — people who stood in the way of progress while protecting the powerful. On Wednesday, a number of senators voted to join that list.


It's pretty clear that the top of the NRA is a mouthpiece for the firearms industry - it certainly isn't representing gun owners if 80% were for background checks. Background checks that already cover 60% of sales.

Must give you a warm feeling to know that any wacko/criminal can buy a gun at a gun show or on the internet without any impediments.
 

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