Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

But every time I've heard a claim of such a "conflict" it has been someone who does not like civil rights claiming that their rights are being "violated" simply because they don't like the idea of other people exercising their rights.

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Re: oralloy (Post 5236544)
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No. The most likely outcome by far is that the number who die will stay about the same.

Really? based on what evidence?

Liberals and democrats can only offer up senseless and idiotic ideas.

ays the boy who whines because others want to exercise their right to feel safe and their right to vote.

The UK national pistol team members and such are at high risk of going on killing sprees if allow to practice in their own nation?

You seem to like this story, but I'd be pretty surprised if it were true.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/olympics_2012/4162498.stm

Shooters seek handgun law change
By Andrew Fraser
BBC Sport


Three Olympic shooting events are illegal in Britain
The government has been urged to relax gun laws which make it illegal for Britain's top pistol shooters to train in England, Scotland and Wales.

Home Secretary Charles Clarke has given special permission for pistol events to be staged at the London 2012 Olympics.

But British team members face having to do all their 2012 preparations abroad.

"It would be fantastic if they were given the ability to compete on a level playing field," said British shooting's performance chief John Leighton-Dyson.

"I would like to think reasonable people will be able to have reasonable discussions and come to reasonable conclusions about this."


We must be allowed to train on the same level as other athletes if we're to have a reasonable chance of competing effectively
British shooting's performance director John Leighton-Dyson
Laws banning most types of handguns were introduced after gun enthusiast Thomas Hamilton killed 16 schoolchildren and their teacher at Dunblane Primary School in March 1996.

As a result, British shooters who compete in the rapid fire, 50m pistol men and 25m pistol women Olympic events can only train in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or Isle of Man.

Team members currently spend about 20 to 30 days a year training in Switzerland, and receive no funding because their events are illegal in the UK.


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The Home Office agreed to relax the law so the three events can be staged in 2012, as it did for the 2002 Commonwealth Games events, although stringent security measures will still be required.

But the government's current stance is that there will be no further concessions for training in the build-up to the Games.

Japan, which has similar gun laws to Britain, gives its elite pistol shooters a special exemption.

And Leighton-Dyson is keen to set up talks with the government, the British Olympic Association and London's organising committee in an attempt to broker a similar compromise.

"It is very difficult for us to get young people to come into a sport they can't practise domestically," he told BBC Sport.


The banning of handguns wasn't a matter of eroding personal freedoms
Home Office spokesperson
"The British team in 2012 will be the biggest we can possibly put out because we are playing at home.

"We must be allowed to train and prepare on the same level as other athletes if we are to have a reasonable chance of competing effectively."

The International Olympic Committee has received letters from various parties since London won hosting rights for 2012 asking it to push for changes in Britain's gun laws.

But IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said: "We are totally comfortable with what has been put in place for Games time."

A Home Office spokesperson said the laws had been voted in by an "overwhelming majority" of MPs.

"The banning of handguns wasn't a matter of eroding personal freedoms, it was a matter of ensuring that what had been shown to be a terrible, if statistically small, risk was removed," she said.

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/04/uk-olympic-pistol-shooters-allowed-to-practice-with-mock-pistols/

UK Olympic Pistol Shooters Allowed to Practice with Mock Pistols
Because of draconian restrictions on handguns in the United Kingdom, Olympic smallbore pistol shooters from the UK have been forced to conduct their training in neighboring countries, such as Belgium and France. Obviously, the need to travel overseas to practice their sport has been a major handicap for UK shooters who will compete with Team GB* at the upcoming London Olympics. Said one smallbore pistol shooter: “Our goal is to win a medal for mother England, the 2012 host nation. But it is hard to compete on a world-class level when we can’t even train at home. Going overseas every time we need to practice wastes precious time and money. Other Olympic shooters don’t face these kind of obstacles.”

With the 2012 London Olympics soon approaching, UK Olympic officials have been looking at ways that Team GB pistol shooters can avoid the need to travel abroad just to practice shooting. Now, through a special act of Parliament, it appears that UK Olympic pistol shooters may finally be able to hone their marksmanship skills at home. A new law will allow qualified Olympic-level pistol shooters on Team Great Britain to import a new, non-lethal training device recently introduced in the United States. With the aid of the American-made Trigger Trainer, UK Olympic shooters can now practice their trigger-pulling skills without risking a trip to prison. The Trigger-Trainer is a plastic device with a pistol grip, and spring-loaded “trigger”. However, it is incapable of firing a projectile because it lacks a barrel, magazine, firing pin, and sights.

Oh there was all kind of google news stories concerning the issue some I had posted on this thread with links.

That is indeed how silly your laws happen to be.

Hell they needed a special law pass to imported a training device that is not even a firearm.

What you term "silly"...others might reasonably call "sane."

Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5236910)
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What you term "silly"...others might reasonably call "sane."

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Yes I can see the danger of members of the UK pistol team going on a killing spree if allow to practice on UK soil.

There are laws...and following the law makes sense.

A masked gunman who died after being restrained by customers in an armed robbery at a bookmakers was using what "appears to be an imitation pistol", police have said.

Alan Levers, 50, from Plymouth entered Ladbrokes in Crownhill Road, Plymouth at 18:45 GMT on Friday, wearing a gas mask and holding the weapon.

Police described the customers who tackled him as "extremely brave".

It has been referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).

No charges have been made.

Levers, from the Honicknowle area of the city, was pinned down by customers before police arrived, when he was found to be unconscious.

He died a short time later at the scene.

In a statement Ch Supt Andy Bickley said: "I can share with you that the firearm has been initially examined by a police firearms officer and it appears to be an imitation pistol, though this still needs to be verified.

None of this would have happened if those kindergartners had been armed.

Multivariate analyses found that states with higher rates of household firearm ownership had significantly higher homicide victimization rates of men, women and children