Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

That's right of course. And some of them have even stated (on this thread, too) that the occasional slaughter is a price worth paying for the maintenance of their "freedom".

How can you argue with people like that? And that's why I only deride them.

Sure we do.

No we don't let ordinary citizens carry weapons in those places. If you do, please let me know where and when you do so.

From the point of view of the absentee owners of the gun manufacturing industry the work in hand has no meaning.

The absentee owners are removed from the working personnel and mechanical processes of the industry except in regard to the dispassionate and remote proxy implied by the receipt of a free income. The relation is fiscal.

People, and the consequences they endure or benefit from, as the case may be, are eliminated and the business is concerned with nothing else but dividends, in cash or kind, aiming to procure a reasonably large--that is to say the largest obtainable--gain in money terms. As such it is immune from neighbourly personalities, sentimental considerations and scruples.

As is easily imagined they are spared many distasteful experiences and having to reflect on the multitude of dreary trivialities of life and death on their own balance sheets where such things do not appear.

If these trivialities appear on the balance sheets of others, State and Federal, it is no concern of theirs.

In the event that the costs appearing on the balance sheets of others are greater than the benefits appearing on their own the absentee owners in the gun industry might be said to be unpatriotic to the extent of the difference.

It is merely a matter of business strategy to lead consumers by the nose by preying upon their insecurities and fear-ridden anxieties which have been expressed so forcefully on this thread.

The word is sedition.
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Joe(somebody best be saying "Hold up, boys. We are just shooting our mouths off.")Nation

'ordinary' citizens?

Why didn't say that in the 1st place?

Are you that obtuse?

Not only that, America is a major exporter of weapons, and adopts an equally liberal approach towards background checks. A lot of the problems in Africa have been exacerbated by American gundealers.

The European nations are not behind hand in such exports, and the UK is right up there, number six in this list at Wikipedia. The UK and France are heavy exporters of weapons to their former colonies in Africa.

Not quite as much of a free for all though.

Yeah, right, Bubba . . . you sweet folks can do no wrong . . . your bullshit gets tedious.

You are number one on the list. If it was any other sort of table you'd be crowing your lungs off.

Izzy is a Bubba?

I'm sure you're right, Bubba . . . you're never wrong, are you?

LOL having one hell of a lot of things in society cost human lives on an ongoing basic

Let see the price for having cars and allowing them to drive at highway speeds killed 40,000 or more a year, year in and year out.
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How about lowing the speed to 25 mph and saving many tens of thousands of lives every year.

Is having ground transportation faster then 25 mph worth all those human lives MCTag?

Is shorter travel time to work for you MCtag worth tens of thousands of lives every year and the answer seems to be hell yes so do not give me **** about the human cost of keeping our constitutional rights with regard to guns.

A cost that is not anywhere as great as claimed as most murders would occur even in a gun free world.

That's a calculation, Bill, that the legislative branch are permanently wrestling with.

20 mph limits are operating here in many urban areas and possibly soon in all of them. But motorways will remain at 70 mph. And by-pass dual carriage ways at 40 or 50. There will still be deaths on all three.

I'm not convinced your comparison is valid because very few drivers deliberately kill people which is what shooters do.

But the argument is impossible because it can still be made until nobody gets killed.

As I have said before, I think I would have a gun if I lived in the US. But I would agree to give it up if everybody else did and allow the cops and judges to deal with the criminals.

And it is worth bearing in mind that guns give ladies an equal chance and if they can do the tear-jerker on the stand a better than equal chance.

There you have it.

And some people are so easily led.

Given how quickly and completely civil order can dissolve (See Katrina), a weapon capable of disuading or, if need be, killing the lawless, is a good thing for an honest citizen to possess.

All the bother about one in a million homicidal rampages are irrelevant. No matter what freedoms are given up and what laws are passed the rare murderous rampages cannot be prevented.

Some folks just hate guns and, more aptly, any sort of perceived macho bullshit attending guns, and want them off the face of the earth.

If someone invades my home with evil intent and is armed with a pea-shooter, a machete, or a revolver, I see so reason why I should not be able to confront the invader with a shotgun, and shoot him if he will not listen to reason. Am I really supposed to go through the mental gymnastics of threat assessment when someone has invaded my home?

Invade and die.

For the entire history of mankind, some have violently preyed on others. When all we had was tooth and claw, the biggest thug always prevailed.

In time, the thugs achieved governance and prohibited the weak from possessing equalizing weapons.

Will some people utterly abuse the right to bear arms? Of course they will, but only an idiot finds this reason to ban the right from the vast majority who do not.

Just look at the sheeple led to the polls to cast their vote for Obama...

What about Mr Panetta Mac?

He wants to put women on the front line in a war the US is pulling out of and not on the front line of an NFL team. And women can do tight end pretty good in my experience.

Looks like playing to the gallery to me. A particulary stupid although a possibly mesmerised gallery.