Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

There were four mass killing attempts the week of the Newtown attack.
Only one made the news because it helped the agreed upon media narrative.

Oregon. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter confronted by permit holder. Shooter commits suicide. Only a few casualties.
Texas. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter killed immediately by off duty cop. Only a few casualties.
Connecticut. GUN FREE ZONE. Shooters kills until the police arrive. Suicide. 26 dead.
China. GUN FREE COUNTRY. A guy with a KNIFE stabs 22 children.
And here is the nail in the coffin for Gun Free Zones.

Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.

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On Tuesday afternoon, the nation experienced its 49th school shooting since the Columbine massacre in 1999, when an altercation between two individuals set off at least five gunshots at Lone Star College in north Houston, Texas, injuring both parties and a nearby janitor caught in the crossfire. The college and the surrounding schools went into lockdown as police secured the area, chasing one of the suspects involved in the incident into a wooded area behind the school. Both men suffered gun shot wounds and are now in custody.

Texas is one of 49 states with a concealed carry law, permitting licensed individuals to carry firearms within the state, and lawmakers have introduced legislation that would allow college students and staff with concealed weapon permits to carry firearms on school grounds. Firearms are currently prohibited at Lone Star.

Now, top Republican lawmakers — including Gov. Rick Perry and Rep. Tim Poe — are using Tuesday’s incident to call for more weapons on campus. KTRK’s Ted Oberg has the report:

OBERG: Governor Perry said this afternoon his thoughts and prayers are with all the victims, but that anyone licensed and who has training on how to carry a weapon should be able to carry that weapon anywhere within the state and [that he would] indeed review the bill that’s been filed quickly. …. We talked to Ted Poe from the north Houston area, who said students today were defenseless on that campus.

POE: It brings to focus the fact that many schools and universities and students have — are defenseless at the schools and places of higher education and this seems to show that.

Five days ago, Texas State Sen. Brian Birdwell (R) and 13 other Republican authors introduced a measure that would prohibit higher ed institutions from imposing “bans or penalties on students who are licensed to carry a concealed handgun.” Schools could prohibit firearms at college sporting events, however. A similar bill failed to pass last year.

Lone Star already employs armed police officers and unarmed security guards.

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Campus Police

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Nobody gets through to people like H2O.

I guess "living in constant fear" is simply something people like that have to deal with as best they can. I rationalize it by suggesting they are getting what they wroght.

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

Texas is one of 49 states with a concealed carry law, permitting licensed individuals to carry firearms within the state, and lawmakers have introduced legislation that would allow college students and staff with concealed weapon permits to carry firearms on school grounds. Firearms are currently prohibited at Lone Star.

49 states with a concealed carry law, permitting licensed individuals to carry firearms within their state and reciprocating states.

The vast majority of states (all but one) have made it clear that legal concealed carry firearms is a good thing.

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@H2O MAN,

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The vast majority of states (all but one) have made it clear that legal concealed carry firearms is a good thing.

I'm sure it is delightful. Sorta obviates the need for a big car.

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@Frank Apisa,

Monica?

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@H2O MAN,

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Monica?

Polo???

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@H2O MAN,

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The vast majority of states (all but one) have made it clear that legal concealed carry firearms is a good thing.

Won't that be because those who decide what is a good thing are in the pay of gun manufacturers?

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@Frank Apisa,

Cigar... Lewinsky.

Back on topic, Obama's American disarmament plan must be killed with fire.

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@spendius,

Won't that be because those liberals who decide what is a good thing are in the pay of casket manufacturers?

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@spendius,

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Won't that be because those who decide what is a good thing are in the pay of gun manufacturers?

Just also might be that half the adults in the US happen to be firearm owners and they tend to vote in mass against anyone who wish to limit guns ownership rights.

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@revelette,

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On Tuesday afternoon, the nation experienced its 49th school shooting since the Columbine massacre in 1999, when an altercation between two individuals set off at least five gunshots at Lone Star College in north Houston, Texas, injuring both parties and a nearby janitor caught in the crossfire.

it seemed like such a good story til the janitor was shot

I don't much care if people carrying guns shoot each other - just don't shoot other people.

If you're not good at target practice, stay home with your gun.

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@ehBeth,

An how many knivings had occur in schools since Columbine as a fast google news search always come up with pages of such happenings and yet we do not hear about them anymore then the 8 children killed and 20 or so put in the hospital in gun free Japan or all the killings and stablings of school children in gun free China.

It not killed or harm children that matter it how such harm can be used by the anti-gum people right ehBeth?

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@H2O MAN,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5234164)
Cigar... Lewinsky.

Cigarette...Morris.

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Back on topic,...

Sounds reasonable.

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Obama's American disarmament plan must be killed with fire.

I am not sure Obama's American disarmament plan MUST be killed at all...and I certainly do not agree that it must be killed with fire (whatever that may mean.)

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@BillRM,

I see, so your logic is what?
Explosives are more effective than guns because they have killed more per incident but knives are just as effective as guns because they have never killed as many as guns? But somehow we shouldn't worry about which is more effective because one gun is just as effective as another gun? Do we need to concern ourselves with effectiveness or not?

By the way Bill, how many children have been killed in schools by explosives OTHER than the one incident you keep bringing up? Why do you continue to not address the fact that since that one explosion happened explosives have become much more difficult to obtain?

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@Frank Apisa,

sue?

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@BillRM,

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Just also might be that half the adults in the US happen to be firearm owners and they tend to vote in mass against anyone who wish to limit guns ownership rights.

So you guys hold all the cards...and you cannot lose. Yet you still keep arguing. What is the point?

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

parados wrote:
oralloy wrote:
It was hardly a tangent. The fact that gun availability has very little impact on homicide rates is entirely on topic.

And where exactly does anyone find this fact?

It doesn't exist because it seems the NRA got congress to shut down any studies of homicide rates and gun ownership.

I've provided it to you many times over the years. Try "the useful website GunCite" (as Salon describes them).

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html

You mean your fact is really an
"Arbitrary Comparisons Between Countries"

That would NOT be a fact oralloy. It would be an opinion that shows how numbers are skewed to support one side or the other.

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@Frank Apisa,

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What is the point?

We wouldn't want you to be any more under-informed than you are.

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@H2O MAN,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5234312)
Frank Apisa wrote:

What is the point?

We wouldn't want you to be any more under-informed than you are.

Aha...so that's what you are doing. Over 260 pages to make sure I (or we) are not under-informed.

You hold all the cards; the outcome is in the bag; even if any laws are accidentally passed, they will never get past SCOTUS; and even if by some miracle they get passed SCOTUS, they are absolutely unenforceable...

...yet you are trying to inform.

You oughta stop doing "informing", H2O...and concentrate for a while on getting informed...and if you truly think the situation is the way you people are portraying it, you ought to start making up a rationale for why you are still fighting the fight!

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