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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:31 am
@BillRM,
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I'd bet Alexander Hamilton would also!


Jefferson never but Hamilton was a big powerful central government person and fear the people[mob] more then the government therefore he would likely be on the side of disarming the citizens.


Ahhh...so you KNOW Jefferson wouldn't??? Maybe you guess (as I did) that Jefferson wouldn't, but to suggest you can be certain is absurd.

As for Hamilton...he died by a gunshot wound, so my bet would be that he would be on the other side from you on this issue.

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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:33 am
@H2O MAN,
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History will show that you were on the wrong side of things.


Could be. But how reasonable is it for you to make that statement seem like you KNOW what will happen in the future?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:35 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Across the pond...

Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.
Just to inform you, H2O: in the UK, they have got a coalison government, by the Conservatives (PM is David Cameron) and the Liberal Democrats.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:36 am
@H2O MAN,
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Americans are unhappy with their government.


Really! All of us??? I must not have gotten that email.

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Americans do not trust their government.


Really! All of us??? I must not have gotten that email either.

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Obama and his liberal democrats are doing nothing to change this.


Well...more thought he would help than thought the other guy would help...so what is your point?

Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:38 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter...please do not confuse him with facts. It pains him when people do that.
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BillRM
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:38 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Most generals were appointed and amassed their own armies...often using personal money. Perhaps the history buffs of A2K can fill in some details.


Only after the small land owners that used to be where the legions troops must come from had been destroy by the concentration of wealth and replaced by large slave worked estates.

With the small land owners as the backbone of the legions they were loyal to Rome and the senate not their generals and only afterward did you get the civil wars.
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H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:38 am
@Frank Apisa,


Americans that voted for Obama are either brainwashed or stupid.

Which is it for you Frank A, are you brainwashed or stupid?
H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:39 am
@Walter Hinteler,
WH, please stick to the facts - your lies are not welcome here.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:41 am
@H2O MAN,
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Americans that voted for Obama are either brainwashed or stupid.

Which is it for you Frank A, are you brainwashed or stupid?


Neither.

The premise for your question is absurdly self-serving.

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BillRM
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:43 am
@H2O MAN,
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Americans that voted for Obama are either brainwashed or stupid.


Back to hurting my feelings it would seems........ Drunk
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:44 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

WH, please stick to the facts - your lies are not welcome here.

Get informed! The last general election, which unfortunately gave the UK this government, was in 2010.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:49 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

H2O MAN wrote:

WH, please stick to the facts - your lies are not welcome here.

Get informed!
Oh, and from the last government/parliament figures:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2zh12j6.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:50 am
@Walter Hinteler,
http://i49.tinypic.com/b3tuzk.jpg
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parados
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:54 am
@BillRM,
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So it is a back door attempt to get around the second amendment so only the wealthy and their hire help can be armed.

I don't see anything in the Constitution that says guns have to be free or cheap.
H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 10:57 am


Biden just lied to a wounded child thus setting up the lies Obama is about to spew
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H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 11:03 am


America, we don't benefit from Obama's ignorance.
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H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 11:07 am

Obama is a high capacity destroyer, designed to do as much damage to the US as possible as fast as possible.

American must ban Obama.
parados
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 11:09 am
@H2O MAN,
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Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April, up from 7,362.

Guns killed more than that in the US in the time period.
The rate of gun crime in the US is still about 8 times the gun crime rate in the UK

UK - 15 per 100,000
US. - 117 per 100,000

http://factcheck.org/2012/12/gun-rhetoric-vs-gun-facts/
H2O MAN
 
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Wed 16 Jan, 2013 11:11 am


Enough of this ****! America demands more guns because the result is less crime.

Ask your representative if they support Obama's victim disarmament plan?
If they do, ask them why?
 

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