@H2O MAN,
Funny thing, H2O...you constantly rail about those of us who voted for Barack Obama being somehow under his spell.
But here are your last three posts:
Quote:Biden just lied to a wounded child thus setting up the lies Obama is about to spew.
Quote:America, we don't benefit from Obama's ignorance.
Quote:Obama is a high capacity destroyer, designed to do as much damage to the US as possible as fast as possible. American must ban Obama.
H2O...Barack Obama owns you. You are obsessed with him...in effect, he leads you around by your nose.
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes in the 12 months to last April, up from 7,362.
1. Data in the UK (or here: England and Wales) are collected from September to September.
2. a.
Frank A., you had better get your ass back on Obama's plantation before they release the hounds...
@H2O MAN,
Quote:Frank A., you had better get your ass back on Obama's plantation before they release the hounds...
If you absolutely have to indulge in that kind of nonsense, H2O...surely you can do better than this. C'mon, though...discuss rather than hurl insults.
@parados,
Quote:I don't see anything in the Constitution that says guns have to be free or cheap.
I do not see in the second amendment where the government can sire charge firearms or guns ownership to the point that not one but the very wealth can own them either.
Kind of similar to having a poll tax on voting or a tax on free speech rights.
@H2O MAN,
BTW H2O--I have been reading up on your much vaunted Judicial Review and its a paper tiger when push comes to shove.
Anti-American Obama called Wednesday for a new and tougher assault-weapons ban and a 10-round limit on magazines, as part of a comprehensive plan to curb gun violence that includes 23 steps he took without congressional action.
Already facing stiff opposition from gun-rights advocates and Republican lawmakers, the president called on Congress to pass several major changes to the country's current gun laws -- some of which are already being considered like the restrictions on semi-automatic weapons and high-capacity magazines.
Obama called as well for legislation to bar the possession and importation of armor-piercing bullets and to require criminal background checks for nearly all gun sales. The president, speaking at the White House, said he would use "whatever weight this office holds" to get the proposals passed.
"If there's even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try," Obama said. "When it comes to protecting the most vulnerable among us, we must act now. ... Let's do the right thing."
Despite discussions earlier about addressing the pervasive violence in the entertainment and video game industries, the president's plan does not appear to address those issues. The plan, though, does call for a range of measures to improve access to mental health services and improve safety at America's schools.
The president, immediately after making his remarks, signed nearly two-dozen executive actions -- a step that has stirred objections from lawmakers who have warned Obama not to overstep his bounds.
Unilaterally, Obama on Wednesday directed federal agencies to share information with the federal background check system; proposed new rules to let law enforcement run full background checks before returning a seized gun; ordered the Centers for Disease Control to research causes of gun violence; required law enforcement to trace guns from criminal investigations; and took other steps.
The most controversial elements of the president's plan, though, continue to be the proposals he wants Congress to pass.
The call for universal background checks would extend to gun shows and private sales, with "limited" exemptions for "certain transfers" among family members and other situations. The administration plans to give private sellers guidance on how to run background checks as soon as possible.
Plus the president wants to commit $4 billion to hiring more police officers, and to pass new gun trafficking laws to explicitly prohibit straw purchasing.
The comprehensive plan comes in the wake of the Connecticut school massacre, in which 20 children and six adults were killed. Obama discussed his recommendations joined by children who wrote to the White House about the issue of gun violence following the tragedy.
Gun-rights groups, though, say the effort to impose more gun control measures is misguided, noting in particular that most killings in America are committed with handguns and not the assault weapons the administration intends to target. Some local officials have vowed to resist federal action.
The National Rifle Association also plans to launch a major ad campaign. The group's first ad called Obama an "elitist hypocrite" for his daughters' security detail. Obama has been critical of the NRA's plan to install armed security in every school.
The White House plan does address school security, urging Congress to help schools complete emergency plans; proposing an initiative to help schools hire up to 1,000 resource officers and mental health professionals; and proposing new training for teachers to recognize mental health issues among young people. Obama also plans to beef up mental health coverage via executive action.
@H2O MAN,
I wonder,H2O, why FoxNews didn't publish your original text posted here but altered it ....
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Quote:Frank A., you had better get your ass back on Obama's plantation before they release the hounds...
If you absolutely have to indulge in that kind of nonsense, H2O...surely you can do better than this. C'mon, though...discuss rather than hurl insults.
That's cutting wit for him Frank
http://www.newschannel9.com/template/inews_wire/wires.national/2be88c0b-www.newschannel9.com.shtml
2nd Oregon sheriff says won't enforce new gun laws
January 16, 2013 16:39 GMT
PRINEVILLE, Ore. (AP) -- Another Oregon sheriff says he would refuse to enforce any new federal gun law he believes is unconstitutional.
Crook County Sheriff Jim Hensley said Tuesday he sent the same letter to Vice President Joe Biden that was sent Monday by Linn County Sheriff Tim Mueller.
The letter says politicians are attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims in the Connecticut school shooting by supporting laws that would harm law-abiding Americans.Hensley told KTVZ (http://bit.ly/13DqKrT ) he believes in the Second Amendment, and he says officials should consider other factors that may have a role in mass shootings, such as violent video games.
@BillRM,
yeah, video games, because having the nation flooded up to its eyeballs in guns isn't a factor as important as video games.
Joe(anything except face the responsibility for what they have wrought upon us.)Nation
@BillRM,
Unless you want to argue that buying and selling guns are not commerce there is no comparison to voting and free speech rights. (News media is taxed by the way.)
@Joe Nation,
Quote:yeah, video games, because having the nation flooded up to its eyeballs in guns isn't a factor as important as video games.
May as well go after the first and the second amendments at the same time in other word a bundle deal.
By the way by Firefly past postings video games are leading to young men raping women so........................
@BillRM,
Bill, my friend, our right to Domestic Tranquility has to brought into this discussion.
For our peace of mind, we, the people of the USA, would like to know who is selling and who is buying guns in our neighborhood. Thus far, there seems to be some agreement, even with a many as 70% of NRA members, that background check are necessary in order to keep the peace.
I would go a step further and require a background check on the seller and the Provence of the weapon. We'd like to know, and I think we have a right to know, where the seller got the weapon he is now putting on the open market.
Joe(and the answer "It was a guy I didn't know," will speak wonders.)Nation
@parados,
Why are you bothering arguing with Mr. Soggy? None of his claims are sourced, and he just called Walter a liar and told him to stick to the facts when Walter informed him we've got a ConDem coalition running things.
Clearly his idea of facts is anything he thinks up.
Btw, our most current gun legislation dates back to the Dunblane massacre when the Conservatives were in power.
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Btw, our most current gun legislation dates back to the Dunblane massacre when the Conservatives were in power.
Indeed, another leftists' attack to freedom ...