Its time for me to jump in here.
I am going to start by saying that I own 3 guns, a rifle for hunting, a pistol for home and self defense (I do have a CCW permit), and a smoothbore musket that I have loaned to the local museum(its almost 300 years old).
Now, that you know where I am coming from, I have some points I would like to make.
Oralloy, you are a complete idiot.
Nobody is trying to deny you the freedom to carry or own a gun.
The right to own and carry a firearm comes with the responsibility to do so safely, and to make sure that your weapon is under your control, not being used to commit a crime and not bring stolen from you.
As a Hunter, I have absolutely no problem with a ban on high capacity magazines. A 5 round magazine is more than enough for the average deer hunter in this country, no matter what caliber you are using.
h2o, you are also an idiot.
You and oralloy have attacked anyone on here that disagrees with you. You call people "freedom haters", you ignore and avoid direct questions asked of you, and you are generally making yourselves look like idiots and doing nothing to help your case.
The two of you are classic examples of people who should not be given a CCW permit.
The right to own a firearm is ingrained into our constitution, and I personally think its part of the American mind set.
Yes, there are people that are "anti-gun", but I seriously doubt that they are anti second amendment.
I know that there are people that are anti second amendment, but I tthink they are very few and very unimportant in the discussion.
Spendius, you are also a complete idiot.
True enough. You can call me "anti-gun" or "anti-gun rights" if you like. I think those people are pissing into the wind.
If they don't support an all-out ban they are pro-gun. As is anybody else who doesn't.
Is the statement from someone that has either never been around firearms, or has complete, and total faith in the government to protect you.
That faith is foolish, in my opinion.
Your position calling for a total gun ban is foolish and leaves no room to negotiate at all, which is also wrong.
Even in countries that have some sort of gun ban or restrictions on private ownership, there are murders committed with firearms, so we know a total gun ban wont work.
Also, what guns would be exempt from your total ban?
Would you allow people that are members of shooting clubs, such as Olympic shooting teams, to own their own weapons?
After all, each member has their weapon custom built for them.
Would you allow police officers to own their own off duty weapons?
What about the gun that has been in my family forr almost 300 years? Would you make me turn it in?
As for relying on the police to protect you, they are under no legal obligation to protect the common citizen
Warren v. District of Columbia (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981
So that does mean it is up to the citizen to protect themselves.
I fully understand the call for an end to gun violence, and I appreciate it.
However, to truly end gun violence, you must stop a leading cause of it.
That cause is simply lack of opportunity.
To many young people see crime as their only way out of situations where they see no hope.
When a child grows up in an area where guns, drugs, and money are prevalent, they learn that there is no other option.
Before we ban guns, lets start by giving those kids options.
Let them see that therre is a way out that doesnt involve guns and violence.
Also, lets start seriously enforcing the gun laws already on the books.
Lets make every gun buyer subject to a background check.
Lets ban any magazine of more than 5 rounds.
But lets not ban weapons like the Bushmaster, because around here where I live almost everyone owns one.
They are great for shooting varmints, and just plain fun to take to the local gun range.
There is a common ground for agreement, but we cannot allow the extremists on either side to set the rules for reaching a compromise. The "all or nothing" crowd on both sides of the discussion must be ignored, and cooler heads must prevail.
OK, I have had my say, you can all go back to the name calling and arguing now.