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HOLOCAUST........ Fact or Fiction?

 
 
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:13 pm
@parados,
Do you understand what a blanket statement is?

Do you realize that even the best case scenario has a hard time even reaching the mark that is claimed?

No because you don't care. You are just going back to your nonsense because you can't understand a simple statement. Why not ask me to mention the lift again?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:14 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:
That number 1.7 million requires that they be gassed and burned 24/7 just to get that number.

Why do you need to get to the number 6 million?
parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:15 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:
No because you don't care. You are just going back to your nonsense because you can't understand a simple statement.

No one understands your statements. I am pointing out that your math makes no sense.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:15 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Krumple wrote:
There were smaller buildings referred to as the bunkers at the Auschwitz site that were claimed to have been used to gas prisoners prior to the constructions of crematorium 2, 3 and 4.

That's interesting Krumple.
Earlier you stated this..

Krumple wrote:
Some argue there were additional crematories on the camp. Yes this is true but there was only two in operation. The third was never completed. The german guards also claim that crematory 1 (the other functioning building) was never used. Crematory 2 was the only one in operation according to many claims from guards.


Which is it? Only one crematoria or the 3 you are now talking about?



I don't even know why I bother trying to explain anything to you. You are mixing up two separate instances thinking I am referring to the same buildings.

parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:15 pm
@Krumple,
Oh? You were calling the Cafeteria as a crematoria?
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:16 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Why do you need to get to the number 6 million?


I don't. Only you keep thinking that because you can't comprehend a simple paragraph.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:16 pm
@Krumple,
Then why did you bring it up twice as being unable to get to the number?
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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:17 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

Oh? You were calling the Cafeteria as a crematoria?


You are done. moron.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:31 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:

No why would I take a statement that I thought was fact and then test it? That is silly. I took several consistent claims from several different survivor videos and not only that but from authors who wrote specifically on the subject. It seems to be that the suggested numbers are from 1.1 million to 1.5 million gassed in Auschwitz within a five year time line, roughly between 1940 to 1945.

The interesting thing is crematorium 2 wasn't finished until march of 1943 so there is less than a 2 year running time available for it. There were smaller buildings referred to as the bunkers at the Auschwitz site that were claimed to have been used to gas prisoners prior to the constructions of crematorium 2, 3 and 4. But it seems strange if they were designing these bigger crematoriums to ramp up their gassing strategy to design them in such an insufficient way as many of the claims suggest was the reasoning behind building them.
Yes, the Nazis did some things which others think to be strange - it's strange from the very beginning onwards.

There projection numbers of how many could be gassed in 24 hours ... so it's not that strange at all re this point.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:34 pm
@Krumple,
Could it be that you're a bit confused about Auschwitz I and Auschwitz-Birkenau?
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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
There projection numbers of how many could be gassed in 24 hours ... so it's not that strange at all re this point.


I don't mean how many "could" be gassed in 24 hours but instead the project would have to run 24 hours a day non stop every day of the week for 5 years straight to get the numbers to work them selves out to deliver 1.7 million.

That isn't realistic. That would mean they were constantly burning bodies, day in and day out. The trains would have to be constantly arriving and emptying prisoners who were led directly in and gassed immediately. No down time. No time to shave their heads, no time to take photos of them, not time to even escort them in to the room. It would have to happen immediately which is impossible.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:40 pm
@Krumple,
I agree. But from where do you get the number of 1.7 gassed in Auschwitz (certainly you must be referring to Auschwitz-Birkenau)?

I mean, Töpfer und Söhne - the company you don't seem to know - claimed that their crematoria in Auschwitz II (Birkenau) had the capacity to burn 4,576 corpses a day (1.7 million a year) ....
parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:42 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:

I don't mean how many "could" be gassed in 24 hours but instead the project would have to run 24 hours a day non stop every day of the week for 5 years straight to get the numbers to work them selves out to deliver 1.7 million.


And yet the estimated number is 1.1 million quite a bit less than your number. Yet you want to argue that your number proves they didn't kill 1.1 million?
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 04:44 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

I agree. But from where do you get the number of 1.7 gassed in Auschwitz (certainly you must be referring to Auschwitz-Birkenau)?



Krumple did some calculations earlier and came up with 1.7. Then argued that they couldn't have killed 6 million because of the 1.7 number.

http://able2know.org/topic/195805-9#post-5077461
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 05:10 pm
@parados,
Does Krumple understand the title of this thread? It's called the "HOLOCAUST." It includes all those killed by the Nazis, inside and outside the camps.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 06:43 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Your response to people who are considerably smarter and better educated than you, is to call them morons and refuse to accept the evidence you're given. And throughout all this you try to play the victim card, because you're far too stupid and insensitive to realise that what you're saying is profoundly anti-Semitic.




With the above amount of "candor," you could be a New Yorker.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 09:44 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It's called the "HOLOCAUST." It includes all those killed by the Nazis, inside and outside the camps.


I'm not sure that that is an accurate statement, CI.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 18 Aug, 2012 02:54 am
@Foofie,
Not with my accent.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Sat 18 Aug, 2012 05:34 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I mean, Töpfer und Söhne - the company you don't seem to know - claimed that their crematoria in Auschwitz II (Birkenau) had the capacity to burn 4,576 corpses a day (1.7 million a year) ....


Nonsense.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 18 Aug, 2012 05:40 am
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
I mean, Töpfer und Söhne - the company you don't seem to know - claimed that their crematoria in Auschwitz II (Birkenau) had the capacity to burn 4,576 corpses a day (1.7 million a year) ....

Nonsense.
Why? So you really think their documents (as exhibited in the museum) and those in the Federal Archive are fakes?
 

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