HOLOCAUST........ Fact or Fiction?

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@mark noble,

My evidence for the camps are photographs from Dachau in my father's possession. I saw those when I was about ten. He was head of photo for the u s army in wwII, heh, at least somewhat, lest I overstate.

You on the other hand are a piece of incomparable ****.

I have to bow out, I will only get nastier and think that is useless.

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@mark noble,

Is this for real? Or are you trying to pull some kind of ironic crap just to gauge readers' reactions? I cannot believe that any semi-sane person living today -- not even a neo-Nazi or White Supremacist -- could post a statement with the words "with all the evidence now pointing to the holocaust having never taken place" in it. What in hell have you been reading? What "evidence" are you talking about?

This is simply unbelievable.

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@Lustig Andrei,

No
Go look yourself. Had you read carefully you would realise I was as astonished just as you now are.

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Do you not think me sensitive enough to avoid such a topic or pose such a question had I not considered the travesty thereof, if I had not done my bloody homework first?

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and after re-reading. l meant to write 'some' academical institutions, not 'all' as my prior post can be determined to suggest.

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And I never stated it didn't happen either, just that evidence suggests such. I wasn't there, but, on the other hand, neither were any of you.

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@mark noble,

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And I never stated it didn't happen either, just that evidence suggests such.

What exactly do you want from this discussion?
A bit of fun & games for you?
What's the point of the exercise? Confused

There is clear "evidence" that people believed the world was flat, too.
Would it be a particularly productive or useful exercise to ask people here to prove that it isn't?

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Want? Nothing. I have no condemnation for any race or creed and do not stand to profit either financially or otherwise.
Is my shock at what is clearly disturbing if true and the wanting to debate that potential with others wrong?
If so, please close this thread.

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@mark noble,

You wanted "nothing" from this discussion.
Really?
Even though you surely knew that it would be deeply offensive to many people?

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Is my shock at what is clearly disturbing if true and the wanting to debate that potential with others wrong?

Your "shock".
Really?
Exactly what is "clearly disturbing if true"?

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If so, please close this thread.

No.
You need to explain your purpose better than this.

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@Lustig Andrei,

and lustig
so as not to cause any further ambiguity.
when I say 'all' the evidence I don't mean to imply 'evidence in its entirity', only the quantity thereof. As in 'you should have seen all the ducks I saw yesterday'.

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@msolga,

my shock?
That I may have believed something my entire life that is potentially false.
Did you not gather that?
Do you actually believe my intent to cause offence, to harm or cause upset, knowing my general nature?

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@mark noble,

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my shock?

Because you said:

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Is my shock at what is clearly disturbing if true and the wanting to debate that potential with others wrong?

Anyway, Mark, to cut a potentially long & pointless discussion really short, may I ask you this simple question:

Are you a holocaust denier now ?

Yes or no?

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@Setanta,

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As for "a complete lack of evidence," you must be on drugs.
What a fuckin' putz . . .

That seems quite polite.

I've recently finished the researches for a biography of the husband of a distant relative, under whose command ten thousands were killed in the Ukraine. And we are staying just now only a few miles away from Sachsenhausen ...

I would use different for such, if it wasn't early Sunday morning here and my wife's birthday ...

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@msolga,

No
I am not, but having read what I read over and over these past few days, am bewildered by what is clearly stating to the contrary of my prior absolutes.
All I have tendered is as I have read... Not my determinations, but those of scientists and those well versed in their particular fields.

The event is very close to us brits ms and the prospect of it having the potential to be false, indeed shocking.

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@mark noble,

and as for evidence, I can write a whole list of sites down for you sir. I cannot however copy/paste anything. I am not on a pc, and have limited ability, hence my slow replies, having to navigate via onscreen text box

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@mark noble,

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No

Well that's something, at least.

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I am not, but having read what I read over and over these past few days, am bewildered by what is clearly stating to the contrary of my prior absolutes.
All I have tendered is as I have read... Not my determinations, but those of scientists and those well versed in their particular fields.

The event is very close to us brits ms and the prospect of it having the potential to be false, indeed shocking.

Could you supply a list of the links to those articles you've read over the past few days?
They must have been something! Wink

I'd be really interested in reading them myself.

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will type them in.

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all begin http://
www.americanfreepress.net/?p=4679

www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

www.natvan.com/national-vanguard/hoax.html

www.barnesreview.org/the-holocaust-hoax-exposed-debunking-the-20th-centuryâ__s-biggest-lie-p-552.html

exposing-the-holocaust-hoax-archive.blogspot.com

but a few.

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@mark noble,

the 2nd is more concise.

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@mark noble,

Two of your links didn't work. But never mind.
But an article like this one is enough to make you seriously question the Holocaust?
Honestly?
All I can say is that you are very, very easily swayed!

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Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax. .....

Is the Holocaust a Hoax?"
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm

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