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HOLOCAUST........ Fact or Fiction?

 
 
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 12:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
I've been called a lot. But that I am a reactionary is new. And somehow quite funny.


Yeah which means you don't consider what is being said, you just react emotionally without considering what has been said.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 12:25 pm
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:
I've been called a lot. But that I am a reactionary is new. And somehow quite funny.


Yeah which means you don't consider what is being said, you just react emotionally without considering what has been said.
At least, you are not using the Nazi meaning of that term - but perhaps only because you don't know about it.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 12:27 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
At least, you are not using the Nazi meaning of that term - but perhaps only because you don't know about it.


It is irrelevant.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 01:39 pm
@Krumple,
So let me get this straight.
Your thread title casts doubts on the holocaust being real or not.
You later admit that the holocaust is a real historical event, that it actually happened, but you are questioning the numbers regarding 6 million Jews being gassed.

Do I have it right so far?

Ok, I don't recall ever seeing anything's 6 million Jews were gassed, but there is factual, credible information that 6 million Jews died.
That number includes ALL of the various ways that the Nazi's killed Jews.
Gas, bullets, starvation, torture, overwork, and every other way they devised.
So the number 6 million is correct.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 01:40 pm
@Krumple,
You wrote,
Quote:
It is irrelevant.


As is most of your opinions.
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Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 01:54 pm
@mysteryman,
Krumple didn't start the thread, Mysteryman. He's just the most vocal asshole on it.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 02:21 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
Your thread title casts doubts on the holocaust being real or not.


I didn't start the thread.

mysteryman wrote:

You later admit that the holocaust is a real historical event, that it actually happened, but you are questioning the numbers regarding 6 million Jews being gassed.


Nope, I never claimed this.

mysteryman wrote:

Do I have it right so far?


Nope.

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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 02:24 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:
That number includes ALL of the various ways that the Nazi's killed Jews.
Gas, bullets, starvation, torture, overwork, and every other way they devised.
So the number 6 million is correct.


How many times do I have to say it? I was not concerned with deaths caused by bullets, starvation, torture, overwork, ect. I was only addressing the claims of those who were claimed to be gassed. It is absurd how many times I need to repeat this. You are just another person who hasn't taken any time at all to find out what I had actually put forth. Typical. You just like the others don't care about the data.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 02:26 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
For how much you all repeat the same bullshit comments, makes me wonder if you all are just socket accounts and trolling. I can't believe there are this many morons on this site who can't do a simple thing as read a post to find out what the claims are. It's not hard. Yet almost everyone here has failed to do that.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 02:43 pm
@Krumple,
Refresh my memory, so I can respond.

Exactly what are you disputing about the number of people that died in the holocaust.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 02:55 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

Refresh my memory, so I can respond.

Exactly what are you disputing about the number of people that died in the holocaust.


No. I have extensively explained it and I also gave shorter version to others. I am done wasting time explaining it so if you want to know go look for yourself.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:21 pm
@Krumple,
Since you've provided a lot of varia about Krematorium II in Auschwitz-Birkenau - what's your opinion about the original sources as shown in the museum of the building company which built the crematoria? Are they faked?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:23 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
It would depend on what his biased resource says about it.
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Harper
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:31 pm
Krumple,

If you want to do history research, go back to school and learn how to do it. You really don't have a clue where to even begin. For instance, you are doing your research on the public Internet. This is your first mistake. Then you go downhill from there. It might make interesting and challenging research to attempt to refute Holocaust claims if one was tasked to do that. Being a rhetorician, I can argue both sides. Seriously though, if nothing else, sign up for a Community College course and learn how to access academic databases if you want people to take your research seriously.

parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:33 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:
Once again. How many times do I have to state it. I was ONLY addressing those who died from gassing claims.

Clearly you weren't since you have been using a figure of 6 million. This has been pointed out to you and yet you persist in arguing your silly numbers prove 6 million Jews weren't gassed.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:34 pm
@Krumple,
Quote:
Your impressions? So what were they? I wasn't using "my" impressions. I was using eye witness testimony of what room was used for what and how they were processed. I didn't make it up.

Didn't you JUST argue that eyewitness testimony was unreliable? Is it only unreliable when you don't agree with it?
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:34 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Since you've provided a lot of varia about Krematorium II in Auschwitz-Birkenau - what's your opinion about the original sources as shown in the museum of the building company which built the crematoria? Are they faked?


Which buildings specifically? do you know their names so I can reference what you are referring to. I don't quite know what you mean by "building company".

To be honest, I don't think anything was "fake" I just don't think the numbers of gassing are actually true. Let me make this clear again. I never claimed that NO gassing took place. I am saying there is a problem with the numbers.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:37 pm
@Harper,
Harper wrote:

Krumple,

If you want to do history research, go back to school and learn how to do it. You really don't have a clue where to even begin. For instance, you are doing your research on the public Internet. This is your first mistake. Then you go downhill from there. It might make interesting and challenging research to attempt to refute Holocaust claims if one was tasked to do that. Being a rhetorician, I can argue both sides. Seriously though, if nothing else, sign up for a Community College course and learn how to access academic databases if you want people to take your research seriously.


You are a moron.

I took the premise of my questions from actual documentary interviews of survivors. You have absolutely NO CLUE what you are talking about. You have NO IDEA what I was even addressing.
Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:38 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Didn't you JUST argue that eyewitness testimony was unreliable? Is it only unreliable when you don't agree with it?


Can you honestly be this dense? Seriously? Wow you never cease to amaze me on just how retarded you are.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Fri 17 Aug, 2012 03:40 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Clearly you weren't since you have been using a figure of 6 million. This has been pointed out to you and yet you persist in arguing your silly numbers prove 6 million Jews weren't gassed.


Once again you are a moron. I can't believe that you failed time and time again on actually reading a simple paragraph.
 

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