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What is the greatest country on Earth?

 
 
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:41 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Certainly it is the USA - not only what Finn noted so precisely but also because e.g. China exported $3.4m worth of US flags to America in 2011, according to the Census Bureau. (Interestingly America exported $663,000-worth of its own flags to other countries.)
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iamsam82
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 05:58 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote...
Quote:
Take a look at the demographics.

Unless one believes the vast number of people who want to live in America are idiots, in the true sense of the word, the fact that they vastly outnumber any similarly (wishful) mobile population, answers the question at a very basic level of response.


The population of the UK in 2010 was about 63,111,100.
The population of the US in 2010 was about 314,034,000

The following stats are based on numbers of legal immigrants in both countries in 2010...

Quote:
Final figures for 2010 show that annual net migration to the UK was 252,000, the highest calendar year figure on record.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/migration1/migration-statistics-quarterly-report/november-2011/msqr.html

Quote:

USA
Year / Persons Obtaining Legal Permanent Resident Status Fiscal Years
2010 / 1,042,625

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States

Thus...
About 4% of the UK population is recent immigrant.
About 3.3% of the US population is recent immigrant.


So there are more immigrants per head in the UK than in the US. I think you also have to take size and population density of a country into account, if you're going to play the immigration card as a trump for the popularity of a country! The US is fricking massive! Most countries have a cap on the number of immigrants they are willing to take in each year based on their size and population sustainability. So merely looking at the raw numbers of immigrants can skew your perceptions.

(PS: The US is a great country though!) Very Happy
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 06:57 am
I'm amazed you guys didn't call Finn on the obvious flaw to his argument. That is to say - what do brown people know?

Drunk
McTag
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 07:03 am
@hingehead,

The UK is a lot closer to Kosovo, Albania, Roumania, Afghanistan, Somalia, and has historical ties with Uganda, Pakistan, India, Caribbean countries, and has political ties with eastern EC countries....

Facts. They can skew your analyses.

Anyway, you're all wrong. It's Scotland.
hingehead
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 07:14 am
@McTag,
Pffft! McT - no Scots migrate? Wink

And central and south americans can walk to the US - let's see a Jamaican walk to England Mr. Green
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Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 09:14 am
The immigration rate argument for greatest country ignores that it says a lot more about the neighboring countries and border control ability than anything else.

High immigration levels are usually the result of a great disparity of wealth between neighboring nations. Immigration is largely driven by poverty and poverty dramatically limits the extent to which traversing the globe is possible.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 09:25 am
The US is #1 when it comes to cocaine use and abuse.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 10:49 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

"Aptitude tests?" ROFL


I do not know what rofl means? Perhaps, you should mind your own business, and not push into someone's comment, if you are only taking an adversarial position? Or, do you get a pass to be obnoxious, based on your early suffering at the hands of the U.S. government?

izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:00 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

[quote="cicerone do you get a pass to be obnoxious, based on your early suffering at the hands of the U.S. government?




What's your excuse?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:05 pm
@Foofie,
First of all, you need to know what an "aptitude test" really tests. Secondly, your opinion assumes an "aptitude test" proves some intelligence; it doesn't.

That's the reason why your opinion had me ROFL.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:10 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Foofie wrote:

[quote="cicerone do you get a pass to be obnoxious, based on your early suffering at the hands of the U.S. government?




What's your excuse?


Living in a Gentile world that isn't appreciative, nor grateful, for what the Jewish culture/religion/people have given civilization. (1)You won't get polio because... (2) You have a Christian monotheistic faith because... (3) You know what an ego, id, and superego is because... (4) Nuclear weapons kept the Soviets at bay because... etc., etc.

I won't ask you your excuse. In my opinion, I believe it is just being brain-washed into a culture of pomposity (aka, British). Hear! Hear!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:12 pm
@Foofie,
You obviously don't get irony, because if you did you'd never lecture anyone about being pompous.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:16 pm
@izzythepush,
They're still complaining about the Holocaust while they mistreat Palestinians.

That's not irony; that's intentional cruelty.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Who's they? I assume you mean Israel, but Israel and Jews are not synonymous. I don't think Foofie has persecuted anyone.

As a member of the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign I get labelled ant-Semitic all the time. It doesn't help when other Palestinian supporters mix up the term Israeli and Jew. Please can you stop doing it.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

They're still complaining about the Holocaust while they mistreat Palestinians.

That's not irony; that's intentional cruelty.


Who are "they're"? Is that similar to "you people"?

One shouldn't talk about complaining, since on PBS I recently saw the annual pilgrammage to the internment camp for the Japanese. I do not think any Japanese were worked to death, or gassed at the internment camps. Yet, "they're" still complaining in a strange sort of way (some saying they suffered, but they love the country that interned them).

Don't you think Japanese-Americans should have closure on this event, since at that time in history, Asians were such a minority in this country, that, in my opinion, it is hard to think that they would have been treated benignly.

To be perfectly honest, unless one grows up today with Asian students in one's classes, many older folks, in my opinion, still find it hard to discern one Asian from another. I am likely better than many people, but not having had Asians in my world, until the 21st century, they seem to all blend together, unless I see one many, many times. The ethnic groups I grew up with are all discernable, since they were in my classes as a student. Asians in NYC did not exist in any number until I was far into adulthood. Give me a break.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:30 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Who's they? I assume you mean Israel, but Israel and Jews are not synonymous. I don't think Foofie has persecuted anyone.

As a member of the Palestinian Solidarity Campaign I get labelled ant-Semitic all the time. It doesn't help when other Palestinian supporters mix up the term Israeli and Jew. Please can you stop doing it.


Thank you for the nuanced thinking. You have just explained why so many Jews, of all degrees of religiousness or non-religousness, believe Israel is needed in a world of non-Jews (aka, Gentiles) where many might not like to do simple logical thinking.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:33 pm
@Foofie,

(1)You won't get polio because... our Christian country allowed testing of our children
(2) You have a Christian monotheistic faith because... most Americans can't count to 2.
(3) You know what an ego, id, and superego is because... ancient Rome spoke Latin
(4) Nuclear weapons kept the Soviets at bay because... the Rosenbergs stole the secret and gave it to the Soviets in the first place

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:35 pm
@Foofie,
We're not talking about Japanese-American, thank you. We've proven our loyalty as Americans before, during, and after WWII.

We still advocate for equality for other minorities; Japanese Americans are doing just fine in this country. We're not complaining; we simply show our appreciation for this country that has allowed us the education and opportunity to succeed.

Japanese Americans were not worked to death; but our Constitutional Rights were taken away by our government. Nobody was charged with a crime, but we were all taken to concentration camps based on our Japanese culture and background, and nothing else. FYI, that's outright discrimination, and illegal in the US.

About discerning one Asian from another, most Asians find that difficult to do; so what's your point?

The only "break" you'll get from me is when you show some humanity and humility for your fellow humans.
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:43 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:


(1)You won't get polio because... our Christian country allowed testing of our children
(2) You have a Christian monotheistic faith because... most Americans can't count to 2.
(3) You know what an ego, id, and superego is because... ancient Rome spoke Latin
(4) Nuclear weapons kept the Soviets at bay because... the Rosenbergs stole the secret and gave it to the Soviets in the first place




No. The polio vaccine was invented by Jews (oral and injection). You have a Christian monotheistic faith because of a rabbi that died at the hands of the Romans. Freud gave us the ego, id and superego. Nuclear weapons kept the Soviets at bay, and were perfected by physicists of the Hebrew persuasian.

By the way, while the Rosenbergs did give the atomic secrets to the Soviets, the Soviets already had the atomic secrets.

But, thank you for your proving that there are people that will not credit Jews and their culture for adding to the present civilization.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2012 12:44 pm
@Foofie,
Which is also why anyone who wants justice for Palestine must have no truck with anti-Semitism.
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