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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
BillRM
 
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Sun 22 Jan, 2012 11:31 pm
@firefly,
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You are an expert in how to obtain child porn, aren't you? Have lots of experience in this area? You sure know how to share those "pedofiles" don't you? Want to tell us more about how the bulk of child pornography collecting is done?


Falling back on personal attacks I see once more.

My information come mainly from google search of the public records and my own knowledge of p2p networks and what they all will sadly list out in ways of file names if you place such keywords as sex and young in their search engines.

I think we had gone over that before however once more I never had even seem child porn let alone download any such material as my own sexual taste run to big breasts and fully develop women not little children.

My used of p2p networks is for music and for adult porn.

Oh and for audio books.........
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BillRM
 
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Sun 22 Jan, 2012 11:43 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Of course not, sweetie, you'll always be at his side to add your voice to defend him, won't you?.



When I agree with Hawkeye I agree with him and when I disagree I also freely posted my disagreements with him.

Hell there even been a few times to my horror that I found myself agreeing with a position of your.

One thing about Hawkeye he is not dishonest and does not mount personal attacks anywhere as nearly as freely as you happen to.

Let see in the last weeks by your comments I am a drunk with many DUIs and of course a trader/collector of child porn as anyone who would dare to disagree with you must be on the side of the devil herself.

It would seems that I drive down the roadways with a BAC of at least 2.0 as I watch child porn on a computer screen or at least that is the picture you had try to paint of me.
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hawkeye10
 
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Sun 22 Jan, 2012 11:58 pm
Trust in government has 'suffered a severe breakdown'

Quote:
Governments have been blamed for the financial and political chaos of 2011.

In 17 of 25 countries surveyed governments are now trusted to do what is right by less than half those questioned.

Overall trust in government fell by nine percentage points to 43%.

Trust in business also fell, from 56% to 53%.

Although businesses saw less severe declines in trust, countries at the heart of the eurozone saw sharper decreases.

Businesses in Spain, France and Germany saw trust decline by 21, 20 and 18 percentage points respectively.

China was the only country to see a significant rise in trust in businesses, up from 61% to 71%.

Trusting 'me'

Richard Edelman, president and CEO of Edelman, said: "Business is now better placed than governments to lead the way out of the trust crisis".

"But the balance must change so that business is seen both as a force for good and an engine for profit."

Alongside these steep declines in trust in institutions such as governments or businesses, the survey highlights a dramatic switch in those whom people say they now trust.

A "person like me" is now one of the top three credible sources, said those surveyed, only trailing academics and technical experts.

Social networking, microblogging and content-sharing sites saw the most dramatic percentage rises as trusted sources of information, jumping by 88%, 86% and 75%.

Despite these gains, traditional media and online search engines are still the most trusted sources of information for general news and information, says the survey.

Edelman's 2012 trust Barometer was released in the run-up to this year's World Economic Forum in Davos, where it will be presented in more detail.

Edelman's online survey sampled 25,000 respondents among the general population, with an over-sample of 5,600 "informed" people from the upper end of society - college-educated, with household income in the top quarter - across 25 countries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16675808

Going along with the tide is the erosion of our trust in Government to run a just justice system, as evidence of abuses of government power and dishonesty pile up. Firefly will of course maintain to her dying breath that I am making this all up.
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:02 am
@hawkeye10,
And what does this have to do with child pornography? Laughing
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:08 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

And what does this have to do with child pornography?


It ties to my assertion that the sex laws are abusive, and that the government continuing to insist upon using unjust laws such as our porn laws to abuse the citizens will result in a degradation of its authority and in demands that government power be hacked back in order to preserve the freedom and sovereignty of the citizenry. This result indicates to me that this dynamic is well under way.
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:44 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
It ties to my assertion that the sex laws are abusive, and that the government continuing to insist upon using unjust laws such as our porn laws to abuse the citizens will result in a degradation of its authority...

Right, and this man is being "abused" by such laws, isn't he, Hawkeye? Why, who wouldn't want someone like this teaching his chidren? Rolling Eyes
Quote:
Newton teacher joined child porn website in 2009, court documents allege
January 20, 2012
By Deirdre Fernandes, Globe Staff

The Underwood Elementary teacher who was arrested earlier this week on charges of sexually assaulting a minor and filming it had joined an international website that trafficked in child pornography in June 2009 and posted several graphic videos that earned him “VIP” status, according to federal court documents.

David Ettlinger, 34, of Allston made 105 posts on “Dreamboard” an on-line bulletin board that promoted child pornography, frequently visiting a section for videos of children under 13 years, the documents state.

David Yannetti, whose firm is representing Ettlinger, would not comment on the allegations outlined in the Louisiana court documents.

“We are going to investigate it and handle it in the appropriate way,” Yannetti said today.

Earlier this week, Ettlinger pleaded not guilty to charges of indecent assault and battery on a child under 14 and posing a child in a state of nudity, in a West Roxbury District Court. He also pleaded not guilty to related charges of possession of child pornography in Brighton District Court.

Ettlinger was a second-grade teacher and had been employed with Newton Public Schools for 12 years. His students referred to him as Mr. E, but on Dreamboard he went by EE1, according to a complaint filed in federal court in Louisiana.

He participated in Dreamboard between June 2009 and August 2010, according to the documents.

Federal investigators tracked down Ettlinger using his computer Internet address in December 2010, the documents state.

Newton Schools Superintendent David Fleishman said he found out about the Ettlinger case on Tuesday morning when local police called him. Ettlinger appeared in Brighton District Court later that day. School officials now say they are moving to fire Ettlinger, who has been put on administrative leave.

Federal investigators launched the investigation into Dreamboard in December 2009. They describe it as a message board with about 600 members worldwide. Participants moved higher up in the membership hierarchy based on the number and frequency of their posts. Ettlinger had reached the second level, according to the documents.

Seventy-two people were initially charged with participating in Dreamboard last August, when federal authorities first announced the investigation.
http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/newton/2012/01/newton_teacher_joined_child_po.html

And isn't this the kind of Scout Leader we want our children involved with?
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Morris Plains assistant Boy Scout leader charged with child porn possession, distribution
January 20, 2012
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MORRIS PLAINS — A Boy Scout leader who invited a man to his home and showed him pornographic images of children on his computer was arrested today, the Morris County prosecutor said.

Stephen Corcoran, 44, of Morris Plains was charged with one count of second-degree distribution of child pornography and one count of fourth-degree possession of child pornography in connection with the alleged October incident, Prosecutor Robert Bianchi said.

Corcoran has since stepped down from his Scout position, his attorney said.

A man, identified only as "C.W. #1," told investigators from the prosecutor’s office in November that Corcoran had issued an invitation to his Littleton Road home a month earlier and showed him computer images of apparent child pornography, according to an arrest affidavit.

Authorities searched Corcoran’s computer and storage media and found images of boys with their genitalia exposed, as well as images of boys engaged in sex acts, the affidavit said.

"The forensic computer examination revealed that the defendant possessed both images and videos containing child pornography," the affidavit stated.

Bianchi said the distribution charge results from showing child porn to another person.

Corcoran is listed as an assistant scoutmaster for Boy Scout Troop 173 in Morris County on the troop’s website. But his lawyer, Peter Gilbreth, said Corcoran cut his ties to the troop in November.

A LinkedIn page that references Troop 173 says Corcoran works in information technology and infrastructure management at Deutsche Bank in New York City. It also says he attended Rutgers University and graduated cum laude with a master’s degree in information technology from Stevens Institute of Technology.

Gilbreth said his client was served with paperwork and surrendered.
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/01/morris_plains_assistant_boy_sc.html

And this man, who also possessed child sex abuse images, sent nude photos of himself to a 12 year old who he had been trying to engage in sexually explicit chats. But, of course the fact this pedophile possessed sexual images of children wasn't connected to his desire to actually be sexually involved with children, was it? Rolling Eyes Even his lawyer thinks the sentence given to his client was "fair".
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Man sentenced for sending nude photos of self to girl, 12
By JAMES A. KIMBLE
Union Leader Correspondent
Jan 23, 2012

BRENTWOOD — A former Seabrook man was sentenced to five to 10 years in state prison on Friday for sending sexually explicit photos of himself to a 12-year-old girl he contacted on Facebook.

Andrew Desmarais, 25, pleaded guilty to three counts of indecent exposure and a single count of certain uses of a computer prohibited in Rockingham County Superior Court.

Desmarais’ nude photos were sent to an email address that actually belonged to police, according to prosecutors.

The girl’s father contacted Hampton police last Feb. 3, saying someone named Andy Desmarais was trying to engage in sexually explicit chats with his daughter on Facebook’s direct messenger, according to prosecutors.

Police ended up taking over the girl’s Facebook account and posed as the girl as part of their investigation and exchanged messages with Desmarais, according to prosecutors.

Desmarais indicated he wanted to pick up the girl in his car and made remarks about sexual acts he wanted to engage in with her, prosecutors said.

On Feb. 12, Desmarais allegedly sent three sexually explicit photo of himself to an email address maintained by Hampton police, according to court documents. During the investigation, another parent came forward saying that their daughter had been receiving messages from Desmarais as well, court documents say.

“Clearly, they are very serious charges,” defense lawyer Adam Bernstein said Friday after the court hearing, “but I think it’s a fair sentence the court imposed.”

Bernstein told Judge N.William Delker that Desmarais had no prior criminal record and immediately confessed and expressed remorse about having inappropriate contact with the girl.

“He wants to get the appropriate treatment and the help he needs so he can return and be a productive member of society,” Bernstein said.

Police say they were able to identify Desmarais because the photos also showed his face.

Desmarais was indicted on 25 counts of possession of child sexual abuse images, but the majority of those charges were dropped as part of the negotiated plea agreement.
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120123/NEWS03/701239973


Keep defending the pedophiles who get involved with child pornography, Hawkeye, it's such a noble cause.



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firefly
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2012 01:15 am
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Who Possesses Child Pornography?

It is difficult to describe a “typical” child pornography possessor because there is not just one type of person who commits this crime.

In a study of 1,713 people arrested for the possession of child pornography in a 1-year period, the possessors ran the gamut in terms of income, education level, marital status, and age. Virtually all of those who were arrested were men, 91% were white, and most were unmarried at the time of their crime, either because they had never married (41%) or because they were separated, divorced, or widowed (21%).

Forty percent (40%) of those arrested were “dual offenders,” who sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography, with both crimes discovered in the same investigation. An additional 15% were dual offenders who attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators who posed online as minors.

Who Produces Child Pornography?

Based on information provided by law enforcement to NCMEC’s Child Victim Identification Program, more than half of the child victims were abused by someone who had legitimate access to them such as parents, other relatives, neighborhood/family friends, babysitters, and coaches.

What is the Nature of These Images?

The content in these illegal images varies from exposure of genitalia to graphic sexual abuse, such as penetration by objects, anal penetration, and bestiality.

Of the child pornography victims identified by law enforcement, 42% appear to be pubescent, 52% appear to be prepubescent, and 6% appear to be infants or toddlers.

What Are the Effects of Child Pornography on the Child Victim?

It is important to realize that these images are crime scene photos – they are a permanent record of the abuse of a child. The lives of the children featured in these illegal images and videos are forever altered.

Once these images are on the Internet, they are irretrievable and can continue to circulate forever. The child is revictimized as the images are viewed again and again.
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PageServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2451

hawkeye10
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2012 01:23 am
@firefly,
Quote:
The content in these illegal images varies from exposure of genitalia to graphic sexual abuse, such as penetration by objects, anal penetration, and bestiality.


An according to reports it also includes pictures of children waiting for planes in airports.....that is after all one of the assertions made by the state which is supposed to lead us to the conclusion that this is a bad guy.

Quote:
Once these images are on the Internet, they are irretrievable and can continue to circulate forever. The child is revictimized as the images are viewed again and again


Walk us through that logic, this assertion is made often by the zealots but where is the work to prove the claim? It is always missing. How is a human harmed by something that they never know happens, and where the other parties never know who they are???? Have we stolen their spirit as some primitives claim? Have we robbed them of their monetary compensation for which they are entitled? It gets annoying to have constantly a claim of harm trotted out where no one is willing to specify what the alleged harm is. It certainly makes my bull **** detector go off.
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 01:49 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Once these images are on the Internet, they are irretrievable and can continue to circulate forever. The child is revictimized as the images are viewed again and again
Quote:
Walk us through that logic, this assertion is made often by the zealots but where is the work to prove the claim?

Quote:
The New York Times
June 9, 2011
In Court, a Victim Gives Voice to Sex Abuse
By AL BAKER

He had never met the young girl, recognizing her only through a 15-minute video he had downloaded that showed her being sexually abused by a man. Her circumstances were not familiar to him; he knew her only as “Vicky,” the self-titled subject of a series of videos popular in child-pornography circles.

But on Thursday, Matthew Fanning, a retired New York City police officer, came to learn more about Vicky, who is now in her 20s, as her victim-impact statement was read aloud at his sentencing in State Supreme Court in Queens.

“I wonder if the people I know have seen these images,” the woman wrote, according to the statement, which was read by a senior assistant district attorney, Kateri A. Gasper. “I wonder if the men I pass in the grocery store have seen them. Because the most intimate parts of me are being viewed by thousands of strangers, and traded around, I feel out of control. They are trading my trauma around like treats at a party, but it is far from innocent. It feels like I am being raped by each and every one of them.”


Prosecutors have withheld her real name because she is a repeat victim of child abuse: her father sexually abused her and filmed those acts more than a decade ago.

In her statement, she described enduring flashbacks, nightmares and paranoia. Crowds were unbearable, she said, and she withdrew from college because of panic attacks.

And each time she learns that images of her “naked body being tortured” are at the center of another court case against a purveyor of child pornography, she feels exploited anew
. Victim-impact statements from the woman’s mother and stepfather were also introduced into the record, though not read aloud. Later, Justice Fernando M. Camacho sentenced Mr. Fanning, 48, of Ozone Park, to up to 10 years in prison.

“The children who are depicted in these vile videos are real children,” said Richard A. Brown, the Queens district attorney. “The fact that the defendant is a retired N.Y.P.D. officer makes this case all the more disturbing.”

Last month, Mr. Fanning pleaded guilty to two counts of promoting sexual performance by a child: one for obtaining a video featuring a 3-year-old girl engaged in a sex act with an adult male and one for the Vicky video.

In court, Mr. Fanning apologized after hearing the victim’s statement.

“The phrase ‘Lord knows, I’m sorry,’ comes to mind,” he told the judge. “I would never do anything to hurt anyone.”

As for the victims in the case, Mr. Fanning said: “I pray for them and their families every day. I swear to God nothing like this will ever happen again.”

For the young woman at the center of the Vicky series, offering an impact statement is part of a two-pronged legal approach seeking some relief for her past. When people are convicted in federal court of possessing pornographic images of her, she files motions to receive damages, her lawyer, Carol L. Hepburn, said.

She is seeking about $1 million to date for counseling, lost wages, extra educational costs and evidence gathering, Ms. Hepburn said. So far, her client has filed for restitution in more than 200 federal criminal cases across the country, and received more than 50 orders for payment — though not much money has come in because many defendants have little means.

“We ask that her victim-impact statement be read aloud in all cases so the defendant and those in court have an opportunity to realize the effect of this crime,” Ms. Hepburn said. “I’m hopeful other victims will come forward and realize they, too, can have a voice.”

Ms. Hepburn said her client was one of three victims in the nation who regularly request restitution from people who possess child pornography images — not just from those who produce or distribute it. Whenever the Vicky images show up in a prosecution, the government notifies Ms. Hepburn — although victims and their relatives can ask that the government not do so. In his statement, the stepfather of the victim in the Vicky series said he did just that.

“We don’t receive the notices anymore,” he wrote. “The pain and gut-wrenching reminder of receiving enough notices to overflow a 55-gallon drum is more than my family can take.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/10/nyregion/pornography-victim-makes-voice-heard-in-queens-case.html?_r=2&hpw
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 01:55 am
@firefly,
Quote:
And each time she learns that images of her “naked body being tortured” are at the center of another court case against a purveyor of child pornography, she feels exploited anew.


An whos fault is that? The viewer almost certainly never knew who she was, it is only because of the state that she is so tortured. Easy fix here, can you guess what it is? We hear the same from Samantha Geimer re the state of California's vendetta against Roman Polanski, but we know how far she has gotten in trying to get the state to knock it off. The state always claims to be acting in the interest of victims, but let a victim object to what the state is doing and then we see where the cards really are.
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 02:15 am
@hawkeye10,
Her identity may not have been known, but her image and body were viewed, over and over, and over--and that image was of her being sexually abused, and she knows the images that others have viewed are of her.

No, it is not "because of the state she is being so tortured" you asshole, it is because there is no way of stopping these images from being circulated, she doesn't know who has seen them, or who will see them, and she clearly says she feels raped all over again when her images are viewed, or she thinks of them being viewed.

She's not objecting to the government prosecuting those who possess those pornographic images of her--she wants them prosecuted, that's why she made her victim impact statement, she wants those people to know what they are doing to her by possessing and viewing her image.

What you fail to understand is that the criminal sexual abuse of this person is continuing and ongoing...those images of her will circulate indefinitely, and they perpetuate her psychological and emotional and sexual abuse.

Not that I would expect someone of your limited capacity to be able to understand that.



izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 02:39 am
@firefly,
Your quotation about the Vicky series of videos says a lot about the mindset of the perpetrator and Bill and Hawk. I note the perpetrator didn't apologise until he heard a vicim impact statement. That's what those two are like, they lack the ability to empathise with others, and put the pursuit of their own twisted pleasure above everything else.

I can't see anything changing, were you to put either of these two in contact with a victim of such abuse, and let them listen to the harrowing details, and to the way it has impacted upon their adult lives, Chicken Little and Slobbery Bill would be completely unaffected emotionally. If anything they'd probably be aroused. In every single scenario they identify with abusers and show contempt for the victims.
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 02:59 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I can't see anything changing, were you to put either of these two in contact with a victim of such abuse, and let them listen to the harrowing details, and to the way it has impacted upon their adult lives, Chicken Little and Slobbery Bill would be completely unaffected emotionally. If anything they'd probably be aroused. In every single scenario they identify with abusers and show contempt for the victims.


My wife was sexually abused for years by an older brother who later killed himself, my two girls were sexually abused by the brother of a babysitter whom we reported and helped to convict, I was for years active in the survivor community helping victims of childhood sexual abuse and their partners.....my focus is in ending the abuse and I am convinced that the way to get there is through freedom of erotic expression and the freedom of individuals to be sexual how ever they want with whom ever they want. I view the states effort in partnership with the feminists towards sexual repression to be not helpful. I am much more interested in ending the creation of victims than I am in saving victims or exalting victims, which seems to make me uncomprehensible to small minded hacks like you. I doubt that you have ever been sexually abused or known well anyone who has been, as you display no comprehension of the subject, all you know is the feminist party line that we see constantly distributed through the tax supported propaganda.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 03:56 am
@hawkeye10,
You're quite right, I've not been sexually abused, and neither have my children, because I put their safety above everything else. I am aware that victims of sexual abuse are quite easy to manipulate, which is probably why they're such an attractive proposition to a man like yourself.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 04:15 am
@firefly,
Now that we had pass laws that allow victims to get $$$$$$ from all the people found to had their images on their computers I am sure there is going to be a great great many more victims who find that they are torture by having those images out on the net.

Along with tracking firms and a whole new industry to make sure the victims know every time their image show up.

A never ending life time annuity.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 04:52 am
@BillRM,
Here is a link to one of the first cases of legal appeals over a very large financial windfall awarded to a victim for having her image on some guy computer years after her abuse.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1564693.html

No victim from now on is ever going to get over the harm done to him or her as that would stop the flow of $$$$$$$.

firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 05:14 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
My wife was sexually abused for years by an older brother who later killed himself, my two girls were sexually abused by the brother of a babysitter whom we reported and helped to convict...
my focus is in ending the abuse and I am convinced that the way to get there is through freedom of erotic expression and the freedom of individuals to be sexual how ever they want with whom ever they want.

Do you think your wife's brother was simply exercising his "freedom to be sexual" with whomever he wanted when he abused his sister?
Was the babysitter's brother just expressing his "freedom to be sexual" with whomever he wanted when he abused your two daughters?
If so, you should have applauded these behaviors and not referred to them as "abuse". Why did you say your wife and daughters were "abused"?

You can't have the license for unrestrained "freedom of erotic expression" once it impinges on the rights or wishes of another person, or when it involves the exploitation or abuse of the vulnerable or powerless. People cannot be "sexual how ever they want with whom ever they want" without in the process trampling on or violating the rights of others, since not all people would be willing, or even "appropriate" partners. By eliminating the concept of abuse, by in effect making all forms of sexual behavior permissible, you don't stop others from feeling victimized, harmed, hurt, damaged, etc. by what might be done to them. You just don't want to have to be blamed, or punished, for what you've done to them.

This is just more of your bullshit. And you periodically trot out your wife's abuse, and your daughters' abuse, whenever you want to bolster your alleged "credentials" as a sexual abuse expert, and it's rather sickening since it's never accompanied with any real understanding or sensitivity. It's in a class with your claiming to be " a follower of Zen" when you think it will lend you credibiity, even though nothing could be further from the truth. You are just a phony.

Your interest is in your sexual needs and your sexual desires, period. And you view any restraints or constraints put on you by law as "sexual repression". You're a narcissist, it's all about you at all times. Your capacity for empathy is nil. Your capacity for real understanding is nil--your perspective is so egocentric it's impossible for you to grasp anything that's beyond your own immediate self interest.

You've made it very clear you can't understand how children are harmed when they are sexually abused and exploited in child pornography, you think it's harmless when pedophiles possess and view such pornography, and I honestly think you don't really feel there is anything wrong with pedophilia, since you seem to think that normal children want to be sexually active, and you've said as much, by commenting, many times, that we are taking away children's sexual rights by not allowing them to sexually engage--including with adults.
And you apparently think it is normal for adults to be sexually aroused by children as well.

All of your bullshit on sexual issues boils down to the fact that your own sexual appetites are indiscriminate and desensitized, and society doesn't go along with allowing you completely free expression in satisfying yourself--at least not without some fear of sanction. Somehow you've latched on feminists to blame for this, although since it was the feminists who encouraged the sexual liberation of women, I think you've picked the wrong scapegoat. I don't think most people would support your notion of completely unfettered sexual expression, particularly if it disregards "consent" and particularly if it involves children, and your dismissal of such people, most people, as having swallowed "the feminist party line" simply shows how out of touch you are regarding normal emotions and values and normal views of healthy sexual expression. You really are a deviant, and deviants are not about to re-shape society's sexual mores in their own image. Considerably more than "the feminists" will keep that from happening.

You are not only not the "enlightened one" you are the small-minded fool. Arrogance and grandiosity do not substitute for wisdom or knowledge or human understanding. You are one of the most self-deluded individuals I've ever encountered. You really believe your own bullshit.






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firefly
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 05:22 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Now that we had pass laws that allow victims to get $$$$$$ from all the people found to had their images on their computers I am sure there is going to be a great great many more victims who find that they are torture by having those images out on the net.

You're just a moron who believes that the sexual abuse of children is some sort of joke.

It really wasn't surprising that you made an offensive remark to the A2K member who related her own story of sexual abuse in another thread. I don't think you could say anything that would surprise me any more--you'll sink to any level.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 07:21 am
@firefly,
I think that we pass laws to punish people harshly who are very secondary to any harm done in any abuse case and reward victims to remain victims in order to get $$$$$$$$$ from those secondary people.

We are going to build another whole industry of lawyers and researchers who will get a large share of those funds.

Those funds will go away from the families of the child porn users who had already likely lost their main bread winner to this new industry. Families in many cases who also contain children that you do not care about.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 07:34 am
@firefly,
Quote:
A2K member who related her own story of sexual abuse in another thread. I don't think you could say anything that would surprise me any more--you'll sink to any level.


A woman who claimed to had been raped/abused three repeat three separate times in her life at three difference stages in her life and who last story I had assume wrongly was not about herself but about someone else that she was just retelling.

Asking that if a wife is assaulted again and again by a husband for not reaching orgasmic during sexual congress why would she not just fake doing so.

I still think that is a logical question to be asking even if I would not had ask it if I had been aware that she was claiming to had been the victim herself in this situation.


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