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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
DrewDad
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 08:23 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
The Arab Spring started with one Tunisian who set himself ablaze.

That's a much bolder action than you have the balls to attempt.

Just like you, to compare self-immolation with whining anonymously on the Internet.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 08:37 am
@DrewDad,
Are you suggesting that Hawkeye should set himself on fire in front of a courthouse or congress?
DrewDad
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 08:56 am
@BillRM,
I'm saying explicitly that the gravitational pull of Hawkeye's ego has caused it to fold in on itself and form a singularity.

It's hard to see, which is why it can take some time to understand why he sucks so much.

If Hawkeye is half the hero he boasts about being, he'd take some real action. Instead, he whines on the Internet. Internet tough guy is tough.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 09:14 am
@DrewDad,
Public statements on the internet is not without it power and I give you some examples that come to mind.

Bank American pulling back on debt cards fees, fees for paying cell phones bills over the internet and the stopping of plans to try to control the internet by playing games with DNS servers protocols.



DrewDad
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 09:35 am
@BillRM,
None of that was accomplished via anonymous posting on a message board, under an obscurely titled thread.

And your examples had support from large portions of the population.

For a single voice to be heard, it must speak at a volume that cannot be ignored.

Hawkeye whines and mutters in the back alley, and convinces himself that he shouts from the rooftops.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 09:40 am
@DrewDad,
Shame on you Drew Dad for suggesting that Slobbering Ygor's master Fuckwitstein is an egotistical buffoon. Bill will scweam and scweam until he's sick. He can you know. Until then he'll content himself in proving that he's stupider than Chicken Little. That should show you.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 10:49 am
@DrewDad,
All such movements began with a few voices at first and then grow from there.

Right now as far as child porn punishment levels in the US being too great is concern a majority of Federal judges are in agreement at this very moment.

Take note Firefly had spend a lot of efforts to sell her ideas on this website as how important or not this website might be.
DrewDad
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 11:25 am
@BillRM,
And there are a lot more positions that never grow into a movement, and never become more than a few voices.

You're suffering from selection bias. You look at successful movements, and see how they started, rather than considering all of the unsuccessful movements that have fallen by the wayside.



But your strength is the strength of ten, because your heart is pure. (I won't say pure what, though.)
BillRM
 
  2  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:28 pm
@DrewDad,
Quote:
your heart is pure. (I won't say pure what, though.)


Gold silver or even platinum perhaps? Cool
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oralloy
 
  0  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:29 pm
@contrex,
contrex wrote:
I must say that the story you linked to looks very odd to British eyes. Here we have laws about reporting of events which led to arrests. The civil law of defamation and the criminal law to do with prejudicing of trials. News stories are generally written to comply with these. They would use words like "alleged" and "suspected" and would not say straight out that he actually was watching child pornography, as the Washington Post story appears to do.


What a load of tripe.

The British media spewed lie after lie about Amanda Knox, before she was convicted, and at a time when the evidence was clear that she was innocent.

The UK media is crap not even worthy of a third-world nation, and your characterization of their supposed "ethics" is an outright lie.
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firefly
 
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Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:38 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
All such movements began with a few voices at first and then grow from there.

The only movement that you could inspire is a bowel movement.
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 23 Jan, 2012 02:42 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
The only movement that you could inspire is a bowel movement.


You may be as dishonest as can be but you do show class......................
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BillRM
 
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Tue 24 Jan, 2012 01:14 pm
The story go on...........................


Utah professor in porn-on-plane case resigns job
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The Associated Press
SALT LAKE CITY -- A University of Utah professor charged with viewing child pornography on a plane has resigned.
University spokesman Remi Barron says 47-year-old Grant Smith stepped down last month, several weeks after he was arrested Nov. 26 following a flight from Salt Lake City to Boston.
He had been placed on paid administrative leave upon his arrest, but Barron tells the Deseret News ( http://bit.ly/xmWxcT) Smith left before the school started any internal disciplinary action against him.
Prosecutors say a fellow first-class passenger saw Smith viewing the images and took a cellphone photo before alerting a flight attendant.
Smith was a materials science and engineering professor at the university. He has pleaded not guilty to child pornography possession.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/01/24/4210978/utah-professor-in-porn-on-plane.html#storylink=cpy
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2012 12:12 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Trust in government has 'suffered a severe breakdown'

Quote:
Governments have been blamed for the financial and political chaos of 2011.

In 17 of 25 countries surveyed governments are now trusted to do what is right by less than half those questioned.

Overall trust in government fell by nine percentage points to 43%.

Trust in business also fell, from 56% to 53%.

Although businesses saw less severe declines in trust, countries at the heart of the eurozone saw sharper decreases.

Businesses in Spain, France and Germany saw trust decline by 21, 20 and 18 percentage points respectively.

China was the only country to see a significant rise in trust in businesses, up from 61% to 71%.

Trusting 'me'

Richard Edelman, president and CEO of Edelman, said: "Business is now better placed than governments to lead the way out of the trust crisis".

"But the balance must change so that business is seen both as a force for good and an engine for profit."

Alongside these steep declines in trust in institutions such as governments or businesses, the survey highlights a dramatic switch in those whom people say they now trust.

A "person like me" is now one of the top three credible sources, said those surveyed, only trailing academics and technical experts.

Social networking, microblogging and content-sharing sites saw the most dramatic percentage rises as trusted sources of information, jumping by 88%, 86% and 75%.

Despite these gains, traditional media and online search engines are still the most trusted sources of information for general news and information, says the survey.

Edelman's 2012 trust Barometer was released in the run-up to this year's World Economic Forum in Davos, where it will be presented in more detail.

Edelman's online survey sampled 25,000 respondents among the general population, with an over-sample of 5,600 "informed" people from the upper end of society - college-educated, with household income in the top quarter - across 25 countries.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16675808

Going along with the tide is the erosion of our trust in Government to run a just justice system, as evidence of abuses of government power and dishonesty pile up. Firefly will of course maintain to her dying breath that I am making this all up.
This is very optimistic.
No one shud trust ANYONE more than necessary.
Least of all trust a goverment. We shud all look down upon governments with loathing.

Regardless, by the turn of the next century,
our grandchildren (or theirs) will have degenerated into the Borg
and freedom will be lost forever into unlimited despotism. Its a horrible thing.

We in A2K will all be safe, protected by natural death b4 then.
hawkeye10
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2012 12:23 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
This is very optimistic.


Yep, which flies in the face of those who call me "chicken little".....
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Wed 25 Jan, 2012 12:46 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
This is very optimistic.
hawkeye10 wrote:
Yep, which flies in the face of those who call me "chicken little".....
In another century, I had some chickons, in Arizona.
Thay did not give me reason to question their optimism.





David
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2012 02:37 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Regardless, by the turn of the next century,
our grandchildren (or theirs) will have degenerated into the Borg
and freedom will be lost forever into unlimited despotism. Its a horrible thing.


Paranoid rubbish Dave. Honestly.
FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2012 03:39 am
@izzythepush,

hawkeye
Quote:
My wife was sexually abused for years by an older brother who later killed himself, my two girls were sexually abused by the brother of a babysitter whom we reported and helped to convict, I was for years active in the survivor community helping victims of childhood sexual abuse and their partners.....my focus is in ending the abuse and I am convinced that the way to get there is through freedom of erotic expression and the freedom of individuals to be sexual how ever they want with whom ever they want. I view the states effort in partnership with the feminists towards sexual repression to be not helpful. I am much more interested in ending the creation of victims than I am in saving victims or exalting victims, which seems to make me uncomprehensible to small minded hacks like you. I doubt that you have ever been sexually abused or known well anyone who has been, as you display no comprehension of the subject, all you know is the feminist party line that we see constantly distributed through the tax supported propaganda.



Firstly... how horrible that your wife has suffered that, and that her Brother committed suicide, however, it obviously affected him greatly.

Secondly, I would have done the same as you did and ensured the man was convicted regarding your children.

Thirdly, I am confused? Somewhat...

Quote:
The freedom of erotic expression and the freedom of individuals to be sexual how ever they want with whom ever they want. And, viewing the states effort in partnership with the feminists towards sexual repression to be not helpful. I am much more interested in ending the creation of victims than I am in saving victims or exalting victims


Yes, we should have the right to be ourselves and are you suggesting that just because you are into erotica, that you shouldn't be labelled as a possible abuser or that you were perhaps, questioned or thought you might be due to how you view life? Is not a victim actually a victim? Were not your children victims? Your wife? Are they not worth saving and protecting?

IZZY

Quote:
Chicken Little and Slobbery Bill would be completely unaffected emotionally


With all due respect have respect... Emotionally regardless of Hawkeye's thought pattern, he just acted emotionally...

IZZY

Quote:

You're quite right, I've not been sexually abused, and neither have my children, because I put their safety above everything else. I am aware that victims of sexual abuse are quite easy to manipulate, which is probably why they're such an attractive proposition to a man like yourself.



It's not that clear cut, or simple in life... Like Haweyes stated in his wife's situation it was her brother ..

I think you need to get rid of your anger and read when someone is speaking quite frankly.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 25 Jan, 2012 03:53 am
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:
I think you need to get rid of your anger and read when someone is speaking quite frankly.


You can swallow Hawkeye's self-aggrandising bullshit if you want to. Why do you think he always takes the side of the abuser if he's so concerned about the rights of the victim?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 25 Jan, 2012 04:01 am
@izzythepush,
Did I not question that?

Am I taking sides? Or am I making a point.
 

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