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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

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BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 11:27 am
@firefly,
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Can you cite a single case where a minor was charged and prosecuted for child pornography violations under both state and federal laws?


Already did so as far as being charge is concern and that is bad enough all by itself to say the least.
firefly
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 11:37 am
@BillRM,
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Already did so as far as being charge is concern and that is bad enough all by itself to say the least.

No, you didn't cite an actual case, where charges were actually brought and a prosecution went forward against a minor.
You cited a case where a D.A. threatened to do something, which is quite different.

You just enjoy thinking about underage females being involved in the porn you look at.

You better remember this, BillRM
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“Thanks to the expansive network of web investigators we’re putting these individuals on notice—you can’t hide behind technology.”


BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 11:44 am
@firefly,
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Tracking this individual was our highest priority because the next level of offense is physically abusing a child and we can’t let that happen,” Sheriff Benny N. Napoleon said in a news release. “Thanks to the expansive network of web investigators we’re putting these individuals on notice—you can’t hide behind technology.”


Not proven at all that the great expense of going after people with child porn is going to reduce child abused, it does sound nice however.

As far as you can not hid behind technology for the most part they are going for the low hanging fruit.

Oh all those very costly campaigns tying up all kind of resources had not seem to slow down child porn trading one little bit.

Boot any p2p software program and put the key search words young and sex and see what **** come up.

Anyone with a computer that know enough to be able to download p2p software can full their computers up with that **** within days if they care to.

If the police are bored and need a headline all they need to do is boot their own computers to get an arrest or two.

Kind of similar to a pride of lions taking out a few members of a large herd.

What they are doing is not working as far as slowing the trading is concern.

Off hand I am not sure how you could get a handle on such trading.

firefly
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 11:53 am
@BillRM,
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As far as you can not hid behind technology for the most part they are going for the low hanging fruit.

Dream on...that's what they all think before being arrested.
Although I would agree with calling you a "fruit"--and a fruitcake as well.
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Boot any p2p software program and put the key search words young and sex and see what **** come up.

Then you admit to doing that sort of thing...you sick creep.

Just remember....
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“Thanks to the expansive network of web investigators we’re putting these individuals on notice—you can’t hide behind technology.”





BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 11:57 am
@firefly,
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No, you didn't cite an actual case, where charges were actually brought and a prosecution went forward against a minor.


The charges was brought as far as going forward as far as I know public outcry and legal moves had so far prevented the charges from reaching a trial court.

Somehow there seems something wrong when a law is so badly written that you need public outcry to stop the kids you are claiming to care for and protect from being try for this crime.

So Firefly why do you not think that the law as written need to be change or do you like the idea of arresting and locking up minors for sharing pictures of themselves and then depending on public outcry to limit the harm to those children?
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:01 pm
@BillRM,
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We had to get involved only because you were so damn incompetent during that period of time
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You had to get involved because the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour. You were rather incompetent at the beginning. Monty had to save your arses in North Africa. Stick to the point. This thread isn't about WW2 it's about how you use your software to look for child porn.
BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:04 pm
@firefly,
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Then you admit to doing that sort of thing...you sick creep.


LOL dear doing a search is not the same thing as downloading files.

Seeing if people are openly offering what seems to be child porn files is not illegal or immortal under any moral or legal code I am aware of.

Only if I had downloaded or try to download such files could you had been free to call me a creep.

Are you that stupid or just being your dishonest self?

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BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:07 pm
@izzythepush,
We had no need to deal with Germany if you had done your job as a major European power along with France, Germany would not had been a threat to anyone.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:07 pm
@BillRM,
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Not proven at all that the great expense of going after people with child porn is going to reduce child abused, it does sound nice however.


It is mostly about getting our rocks off by beating on people we dont like....the SAFETY! of the children is the rationalization for doing what we want to do, so we are not much interested in figuring out if we are doing good. We feel good, and that was always the point of the exercise.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:08 pm
@BillRM,
If you'd done your job after WW1, and helped us put pressure on the French not to have a prohibitive Versailles settlement, it wouldn't have happened either, or if you'd taken a more active role in world affairs, or not caused the Great Depression.

Stick to the point. Why did you carry out a search for child porn? Are you saying it's alright to watch child porn as long as you don't download it?
BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:17 pm
@izzythepush,
Why for the simple reason I was curious if the great amount of public/law enforcement efforts had stop such materials from being openly offer to anyone with p2p software.

An of course to share this information with my friend here such as you and firefly on how well law enforcement efforts are doing in stopping this trade.

Oh I did not used any keywords design only to produce illegal files I used the words sex and young and most of the files that showed up seem legal however there was far too many that by their titles seems to be claiming to be CP.
hawkeye10
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:17 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

Stick to the point. Why did you carry out a search for child porn? Are you saying it's alright to watch child porn as long as you don't download it?


RESEARCH dummy. But you will not find much with searches, kiddie porn is actually difficult to find online now, despite the claims of the government. I can still find lots of stories about raping children because the government has not yet found a way to criminalize fantasy, but I have not seen pics of child porn in ten years online.

Am I going to hell for looking at child porn? That is a pretty medieval outlook dont ya think.....
firefly
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:19 pm
@hawkeye10,
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..the SAFETY! of the children is the rationalization for doing what we want to do,

And the rationalization for being concerned with the legal safety of pedophiles, and other sex offenders, as you and BillRM are, is that this is "unfair" to men. Well, if your main concern is that men have "rights" to be sex offenders...

Most people, unlike you, are sincerely concerned about the safety of children. You just can't understand that.
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:20 pm
@BillRM,
A lot of people found in possession of child porn cite curiosity. You're on the same path as them, question is how far down that path have you gone? Are you still going down that path? Will you consider turning back? The fact that you're so eager to talk about it suggests otherwise.
firefly
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:22 pm
@hawkeye10,
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kiddie porn is actually difficult to find online now, despite the claims of the government. I can still find lots of stories about raping children...

If you know kiddie porn is hard to find, that's because you've looked for it.

Guess you'll have to settle for stories about children being raped...

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BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:30 pm
@izzythepush,
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it's alright to watch child porn as long as you don't download it?


Watch?

All you get from a search is files names and whatever comments people had added to those files.

There is no watching unless you download the file in question.

I am just assuming something with a title of eight years old being screw by his big brother is likely to be CP or twelve years having sex.

As I did not download any of them I did not watch any of them and had no idea for sure what those files might contain.

izzythepush
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:31 pm
@BillRM,
You obviously like thinking about it though.
BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:37 pm
@izzythepush,
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You're on the same path as them, question is how far down that path have you gone?


Sorry buddy but even with all my protections I am not going to have any such materials on my systems and if I ever did download a file and found it outright CP I would removed the hard drive and drill many holes in it before dumping it in the garbage can.

Five years minimum because someone had mislabel a file on a P2P network is not for me.
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BillRM
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:39 pm
@izzythepush,
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You obviously like thinking about it though
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To the same degree you and Firefly do.
firefly
 
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Sat 17 Dec, 2011 12:44 pm
@BillRM,
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To the same degree you and Firefly do.

No, other than you and Hawkeye, no one has discussed the actual content of child porn, or issues relating to how it is obtained.

 

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