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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:21 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Conover was charged with importation or transportation of obscene matters and possession of child pornography after his Sept. 16 arrest in Ogdensburg, N.Y. He now faces an additional charge of receipt and distribution of child pornography.



Crossing an international border with child porn on a computer that is not even protected.

No search warrant needed of any kind to search his laptop at the border.

I assume that he never earn a scout badge for either commonsense, international law or computers for that matter.
firefly
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:29 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Crossing an international border with child porn on a computer that is not even protected.

Right, you'd be a more skillful criminal, and collector of child porn--harder to detect.

You made sure your wife can't see or find your porn collection, didn't you?

In your mind, that man wasn't wrong to have child pornography on his computer, his only mistake was not concealing it better so he wouldn't get caught.

You really are a sociopath.


BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:32 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
But that would only happen if someone chose to violate the law, and obtained and possessed this material--as is the case with all forms of child pornography.


Yes, the law does not need to make sense or have any proven benefits and people should just obey it in your world view however how many people would dream that our government in 2006 had make having cartoons of that nature illegal?

I was not aware of it until a few days ago and the last I hear of this silliness the SC throw out a law to make fantasy CP illegal and not that the congress with nothing better to do had written another law in a manner that they are hoping the SC will not also throw out.

Somehow I had the feeling that we are not seeing any enforcement of this law or Publicity is that the government know what the public reaction to it is going to be when and if they try to enforce it.
BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:39 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Sorry, just because some creep might wind up in jail, for violating child pornography laws, means he has risked his own freedom by choosing to acquire that type of illegal material--the government doesn't take away his freedom, he forfeits his freedom by committing a criminal act.


First it is not under the CP law congress try to do that and it got thrown out as being unconstitutional the current law is a stand alone attempt to work around the SC decision.

Next I am not a bit interested in putting creeps into prison for being creeps and wishing to look at drawing most of us find distasteful at a direct cost of 40,00 a year or so to the taxpayers.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:44 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Right, you'd be a more skillful criminal, and collector of child porn--harder to detect.

You made sure your wife can't see or find your porn collection, didn't you?


LOL back to that silliness I see and my wife is the only one who have had access to my computers other then me and she had seen my porn collection and even was nice enough to burn a few DVD and label them Bill girls for me.

Nothing illegal or even out of the norm about my porn collection dear heart and no Japanese cartoons either. Laughing
firefly
 
  2  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:52 pm
@BillRM,
Look, you keep referring to "cartoons" as though this material is innocuous, or harmless, just the way you refer to a BAC level of .08 as a "low level"--and you are wrong in both instances. You are deliberately trying to minimize the effect of something--be it child pornography in the form of drawings, or the effects of a substantial amount of alcohol on the central nervous system--to make the laws seem absurd when, in fact, these laws are not absurd at all.

Your standards for judging things, and your frame of reference, for things like drunk driving and child pornography, seem to be so deviant from the norm, that you actually don't seem to understand how the vast majority of people view these same things, and why they have enacted our current laws.

And that's why your various rants and arguments go largely ignored. To most people you just don't make sense.

If you think either the drunk driving laws, or the child pornography laws, are going to become more lenient, to allow for greater permissibility, you are sadly out of touch with reality.

hawkeye10
 
  0  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:00 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Nothing illegal or even out of the norm about my porn collection dear heart


Wellll, there is that one you brought over to my suite at the Palazzo last year. Do you remember a certain rape scene in a parking garage??

that was a little out there Laughing


joke!
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:05 pm
@firefly,
Dear it is drawings it had no connection to the real world or anyone who was ever in it and it is not CP.

That is the reason the SC throw the first law out and congress needed to try another route to try to get a law pass that the SC will not throw out.

It is surely is distasteful to most people but as far as I am aware of there had been no study showing it produce child rapists even if that is a theory you are trying to sell.

When and if the government begin arresting people, raiding homes and charging them with a serous crime for having drawings/cartoons it is my opinion that the public is not going to be happy.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Wellll, there is that one you brought over to my suite at the Palazzo last year. Do you remember a certain rape scene in a parking garage??

that was a little out there



But Hawkeye I picked that up just for you and it was hard to find a movie with hell angels and whips together along with a lot of S&M actions.

That poor actress in that parking garage must had been sore for a week or more from that one scene alone not to mention the bar scene she was in later Razz
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:23 pm
@BillRM,
HaHa...

Keep up the good fight with our local dishonest sadist here. I have been spending my limited online time in other threads, just thought I would drop by to say hello.
BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:36 pm
Hmm the Kill Bill movie part two had a cartoon scene of one of the characters being rape as a young girl so I wonder if I now had an illegal DVD on my hands?

Should not be as my understanding is as they are trying to get the ban pass the SC using the obscenity exception to the 1 amendment so the work as a whole must had no merit and I did purchase the movie long before 2006.

Wonder how crazy we can get banning drawings and they are cartoons even if Firefly wish that term did not apply.

You have to feel a little sorry for the movie makers as they can not use young actresses in rape scenes so in the case of Kill Bill they got around that by splitting in a cartoon showing it and in the future they are likely not to be able to do that either.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Sat 22 Sep, 2012 11:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
I am alway happy to see you Hawkeye and I am hoping your business affairs and all your others affairs for that matter are going well.
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firefly
 
  0  
Sun 23 Sep, 2012 12:39 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
It is surely is distasteful to most people but as far as I am aware of there had been no study showing it produce child rapists even if that is a theory you are trying to sell.

No, BillRM, "distasteful" is far too mild a word, again, you are either trying to minimize or trivialize this offensive material, or your own standards are quite deviant from the majority. And unless you have viewed a lot of it, beside the one sample you claim a former co-worker showed you, how would you even know how highly offensive the material is? You think depictions of explicit violent sexual behavior between a child and an adult, or between a child and an animal, are merely "distasteful"?

If these drawings are simply "distasteful", then why do you think this material is already illegal in many countries?

And it's been illegal for several years. This is from two and a half years ago in Australia/
Quote:

Australian Sentenced for Cartoon Child Pornography
2010-02-02

The Queensland Times newspaper reported on January 26 that 28-year-old Kurt James Milner of Leichhardt, Australia stood trial for possession of 64 sexually explicit images of child characters from The Simpsons and The Powerpuff Girls animated television series, as well as The Incredibles animated movie.

Milner pleaded guilty to charges of child exploitation material and using a carriage service to access the material. He was sentenced to 12 months in jail but the sentence was wholly suspended for five years. Milner was also given a AU$1,000 (about US$900) good behavior bond for five years. A conviction was recorded, and Milner is now a registered sex offender.

According to The Queensland Times, the sentence was harsh because Milner had previously been convicted in 2003 of possessing 59 sexual images of actual children on his computer. At that time, Milner was sentenced to two years probation, and no conviction was recorded.

This is not the first time an Australian citizen was punished for possessing cartoon child pornography. In 2008 an appeal was denied for a man who was convicted of possessing child pornography and accessing child pornography on his computer. In this case as well the materials depicted pictures of child characters from The Simpsons engaging in sexual acts. In that case, the man received a AU$3,000 (US$2,600) fine and two years of court supervision.

The Australian government is currently proposing legislation that will require all Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to filter overseas websites that contain "Refused Classification" content. "Refused Classification" content is defined as: "child sexual abuse imagery, bestiality, sexual violence, detailed instruction in crime, violence or drug use and/or material that advocates the doing of a terrorist act."
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-02-02/australian-sentenced-for-cartoon-child-pornography


This is from 4 years ago in the U.S.
Quote:
Child-porn cartoon conviction upheld
Federal appeals panel rules porn is porn even if it's drawn
12/20/2008

RICHMOND, Va. — Child pornography is illegal even if the pictures are drawn, a federal appeals panel said in affirming the nation's first conviction under a 2003 federal law against such cartoons.

Dwight Whorley of Richmond is serving 20 years in prison, convicted in 2005 of using a public computer for job-seekers at the Virginia Employment Commission to receive 20 Japanese cartoons, called anime, illustrating young girls being forced to have sex with men. Whorley also received digital photographs of actual children engaging in sexual conduct and sent and received e-mails graphically describing parents sexually molesting their children.

A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday upheld his conviction.

Among the arguments in his appeal was that cartoons are protected under the First Amendment because they do not depict real children. He also claimed the statute is unconstitutional because text-only e-mails cannot be obscene.

Two judges rejected those arguments. A third agreed with Whorley on those issues but joined the majority in affirming his convictions on the counts pertaining to photographs.

Judge Paul V. Niemeyer noted in the majority opinion that the statute under which Whorley was convicted, the PROTECT Act of 2003, clearly states that "it is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exists."

Appeals to continue

Rob Wagner, the federal public defender who represented Whorley, said he was "very disappointed" with the ruling and that he would ask the full appeals court to reconsider. If that fails, Wagner said he will petition the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case.

A Virginia jury convicted Whorley of 74 counts including receiving obscene materials, receiving obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children, receiving child pornography and sending and receiving obscene e-mails describing the sexual abuse of children.

Whorley, 55, is serving his sentence at the Gilmer Federal Correction Institution in Glenville, W.Va.

He previously was sentenced to 46 months in prison for a 1999 child pornography conviction.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28319199/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/child-porn-cartoon-conviction-upheld/

Quote:
When and if the government begin arresting people, raiding homes and charging them with a serous crime for having drawings/cartoons it is my opinion that the public is not going to be happy.

What do you mean "when and if"? The first case was begun 6 years ago, and it was prosecuted 3 years ago. You're just not well informed--as usual.

This is the first man convicted who only possessed the manga art, without having other pictures of actual children.
If his lawyer didn't think he could get a jury to acquit him after they had seen the images, this material goes way beyond "distasteful".
Quote:
U.S. Manga Obscenity Conviction Roils Comics World
By David Kravets
05.28.09

In an obscenity first, a U.S. comic book collector has pleaded guilty to importing and possessing Japanese manga books depicting illustrations of child sex abuse and bestiality.

Christopher Handley, described by his lawyer as a “prolific collector” of manga, pleaded guilty last week to mailing obscene matter, and to “possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children.” Three other counts were dropped in a plea deal with prosecutors.

The 39-year-old office worker was charged under the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” Handley’s guilty plea makes him the first to be convicted under that law for possessing cartoon art, without any evidence that he also collected or viewed genuine child pornography. He faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.

Comics fans are alarmed by the case, (.pdf), saying that jailing someone over manga does nothing to protect children from sexual abuse.

“This art that this man possessed as part of a larger collection of manga … is now the basis for [a sentence] designed to protect children from abuse,” says Charles Brownstein, executive director of the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. “The drawings are not obscene and are not tantamount to pornography. They are lines on paper.”

Congress passed the Protect Act after the Supreme Court struck down a broader law prohibiting any visual depictions of minors engaged in sexual activity, including computer-generated imagery and other fakes. The high court ruled that the ban was overbroad, and could cover legitimate speech, including Hollywood productions.

In response, the Protect Act narrows the prohibition to cover only depictions that the defendant’s community would consider “obscene.”

“It’s probably the only law I’m aware of, if a client shows me a book or magazine or movie, and asks me if this image is illegal, I can’t tell them,” says Eric Chase, Handley’s attorney.

Chase says he recommended the plea agreement (.pdf) to his client because he didn’t think he could convince a jury to acquit him once they’d seen the images in question. The lawyer declined to describe the details. “If they can imagine it, they drew it,” he says. “Use your imagination. It was there.”

The case began in 2006, when customs officials intercepted and opened a package from Japan addressed to Handley. Seven books of manga inside contained cartoon drawings of minors engaged in sexually explicit acts. One book included depictions of bestiality, according to stipulations in Handley’s plea deal.

Frenchy Lunning, a manga expert at the Minneapolis College of Art and Design, was a consultant in the case. She says the books were from the widely available Lolicon variety — a Japanese word play on “Lolita.”

“This stuff is huge in Japan, in all of Asia,” Lunning says. Handley, she adds, “is not a pedophile. He had no photographs of child pornography.”

Handley remains free pending a yet-to-be scheduled sentencing date. Mike Bladel, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Iowa, declined to state what kind of sentence the government would seek, but claimed there were hundreds of obscene panels in the seized manga.

Chase says he’s hoping the judge will take into account the circumstances.

“He was a prolific collector,” says the lawyer. “He did not focus on this type of manga. He collected everything that was out there that he could get his hands on. I think this makes a huge difference.”
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/manga-porn/

He was sentenced to 6 months
Quote:

Christopher Handley Sentenced to 6 Months for 'Obscene' Manga
2010-02-11

Prison sentence followed by 3 years of supervised release, 5 years of probation

Christopher Handley, the Iowa man on trial for possessing manga "drawings of children being sexually abused," was sentenced on Thursday to six months in prison. Following this sentence, Handley must serve three years of supervised release and five years of probation. Both of these terms will start upon his release from prison and will run concurrently. Handley also agreed to forfeit all seized materials, including his computer. During Handley's supervised release and probation, Handley must also "participate in a treatment program, to include psychological testing and a polygraph examination, as directed by the U. S. Probation Officer." According to earlier court documents, this last provision is "intended to provide [Handley] with diagnosis and treatment for sexually and/or gender identity or other mental health issues."

Handley pleaded guilty to his charges in May 2009.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-02-11/christopher-handley-sentenced-to-6-months-for-obscene-manga


So, the laws are already in effect, and they are being enforced--in many countries all around the globe..




izzythepush
 
  1  
Sun 23 Sep, 2012 03:21 am
@oralloy,
Let me spell it out to you Oralboy. Even you, with your limited vocabulary and nonexistant forehead should get this. You're a complete piece of ****. Everyone and everything is better than you. Even other pieces of ****.

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BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 23 Sep, 2012 04:55 am
@firefly,
Sorry dear but in my value system the idea of raiding people homes, knocking down doors in doing so in the middle of the night as the law enforcement have a love for doing when servicing low risk CP search warrants and dragging people into the criminal justice system all for someone in that household having downloaded images of drawings IE cartoons no matter on what subject those drawings cover is a few millions time more evil then the deed of downloading the material.

Now as far as my not agreeing with the majority take note that this law is little known and been on the books since 2006 and there had not been one raids on the evil downloaders of drawings alone for some strange reason that I know of in the 8 years it been on the books in the US.

The only use in the US of this evil law had been to increase the lenght of sentences for people who had been found to have real CP as well as drawings other then the one case you had posted about where a custom officer run into the magazines containing them being shipped into the US.

I can only think of a few reasons for that fact first the people in law enforcement feel like I do this is a hell of a waste of limited resource, the opinion in law enforcement that the law if it is used in that manner is not going to hold up to court challenges, and fear that people when they become aware of this law are not in fact going to support it and juries are going to say what the hell and are not going to convict people under it.

I know Firefly you wish to imposed your fine moral standards on the whole of society using the power of the state and people like Hawkeye and his wife would be raided for being in the S&M life for example, but trying to do any such thing is way too costly in every way to all of us.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Sun 23 Sep, 2012 05:28 am
@firefly,
I did a google search on the terms "Lolicon free downloads" and got over two millions hits with some websites being very open about having such material for downloading in the first page of results so from that my only conclusion is that there is one hell of a lot of people openly breaking this silly and very little know law in the US and there is little ongoing attempts to do any enforcement of it.

In fact I would bet the vast majority of people who break this law everyday are not even aware that it exist at all.


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oralloy
 
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Sun 23 Sep, 2012 05:56 am
@izzythepush,
izzytheNazi wrote:
Let me spell it out to you Oralboy. Even you, with your limited vocabulary


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own lack of vocabulary.



izzytheNazi wrote:
and nonexistant forehead should get this.


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.



izzytheNazi wrote:
You're a complete piece of ****. Everyone and everything is better than you. Even other pieces of ****.


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own worthlessness.
BillRM
 
  0  
Sun 23 Sep, 2012 06:07 am
http://archive.firstamendmentcenter.org/analysis.aspx?id=11865

Prohibition on virtual child pornography
Advocates of the PROTECT Act’s new restrictions contend that some pedophiles show pornographic pictures to children in order to desensitize them and encourage them to engage in sexually explicit conduct. Targeting this practice, a section of Title V of the PROTECT Act bans virtual child pornography, which it describes as a “digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.” Such a ban raises constitutional concerns.

In Free Speech Coalition, the Court reaffirmed the illegality of pornography in which an actual child appears, but said virtual pornography in which no real children were used could be legal. It struck down the CPPA’s prohibition of material that “appears to be of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct,” as well as a ban on sexually explicit material distributed in such a way that it “conveys the impression” that it depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct. In other words, the Free Speech Coalition Court gave constitutional legitimacy to non-obscene creations of computer-generated pornography in which no real children are used. It distinguished real-child pornography from virtual child pornography by noting that children are harmed in the former, but not in the latter. The Court did not address the ban on morphing innocent pictures of real children into pictures in which they appear to be engaged in sexual activity; the defendants had not challenged that provision.

In New York v. Ferber (1982), the Court upheld a prohibition on the production, sale and distribution of child pornography because it was “intrinsically related” to the sexual abuse of children. Production not only harmed the children involved by serving as a record of their abuse, the Court said, but the sale or distribution of such pornography also economically motivated further production.

In contrast, “virtual child pornography is not ‘intrinsically related’ to the sexual abuse of children,” the Court noted in Free Speech Coalition. The Court was not convinced by claims that the images can cause the sexual abuse of children. “The causal link is contingent and indirect,” Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote for the majority. “The harm does not necessarily follow from the speech, but depends upon some unquantified potential for subsequent criminal acts.” The ban on virtual child pornography “prohibits speech that records no crime and creates no victims by its production.”Furthermore, the Court said that even if some pedophiles use virtual child pornography to encourage children to participate in the acts, virtual child depictions could not be banned because many innocent things, such as candy and video games, also could be used for immoral purposes but would not be banned. Such a prohibition on virtual child depictions would “[run] afoul of the principle that speech within the rights of adults to hear may not be silenced completely in an attempt to shield children from it.”

Proponents of the CPPA say that the rise of virtual child pornography has created a problem for law enforcement agents, who often cannot distinguish between it and actual child pornography. “Technology has advanced so far that even experts often cannot say with absolute certainty that an image is real or a ‘virtual’ computer creation,” Sen. Hatch said in introducing S. 151 in January 2003. According to the findings section of the act, since the Court struck down the CPPA, defendants in such cases “have almost universally raised the contention” that the materials police officers confiscated from them may not be real-child pornography, but rather virtual images.

Although the “solution” of banning both actual and virtual child pornography was not acceptable to the Supreme Court in the Free Speech Coalition case, the PROTECT Act nonetheless calls for the same kind of ban. The findings section of the PROTECT Act notes that the Supreme Court decided Ferber more than 20 years ago, when the technology did not exist to create virtual images that are indistinguishable from real ones. The act’s drafters decided to change the law to address this new technological capability. However, the First Amendment overbreadth doctrine prevents the government from banning or chilling a substantial amount of protected speech in an attempt to ban unprotected speech.

As the Court said in Free Speech Coalition, “The Government may not suppress lawful speech as a means to suppress unlawful speech. Protected speech does not become unprotected merely because it resembles the latter.” The PROTECT Act bans images that are merely indistinguishable from a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct. Under the act, “indistinguishable” means “an ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct.” Such a ban could prohibit non-obscene computer-generated depictions that did not involve the use of any individuals and pornography created by using youthful-looking actors. Both kinds of expression are protected speech.

The PROTECT Act’s proponents argue that it provides individuals wrongly accused of producing, possessing or selling child pornography with the opportunity to clear their names by demonstrating that actual minors were not used in the production. Notably, this affirmative defense shifts the burden from the accuser to the accused — dismissing the principle of “innocent until proven guilty.” It also raises a feasibility problem. If law enforcement agents have a hard time finding those depicted in the images to prove they are under-age, then an individual accused only of possession of such images also may be unable to find the actors to prove they are of legal age. For those who claim to have created the pictures solely through computer imaging, the affirmative defense provides nearly no help — it would force them to prove a negative, that no real child was used in the creation of the pictures.

Prohibition on falsely advertising child pornography
Another section of Title V of the PROTECT Act prohibits knowingly advertising, promoting, presenting, distributing or soliciting “through the mails, or in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer, any material or purported material in a manner that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to believe, that the material or purported material is, or contains (i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or (ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct.” Here again, the Supreme Court did not look favorably on a similar provision in its Free Speech Coalition ruling.

In that case, the Court struck down as constitutionally overbroad a section of the CPPA that prohibited sexually explicit materials that “convey the impression” that they depict minors. The Court said the provision would ban films that did not contain child pornography but were advertised as such, and punish those who possessed the films knowing they had been mislabeled. The PROTECT Act may fail a constitutional challenge for similar reasons. The ACLU noted that problems arising out of false advertising and fraud could be addressed by the Federal Trade Commission.

Prohibition of misleading domain names
Title V, Subtitle B of the PROTECT Act makes it illegal to use misleading domain names on the Internet with the intent to trick people into viewing obscenity. Free-speech advocates claim the “Truth in Domain Names” section is not constitutionally precise. “The term ‘misleading’ is inherently vague, which tends to chill protected speech on the Internet,” the ACLU wrote to Sen. Hatch and Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., on April 8, 2003. The act calls for fines or imprisonment for up to two years for those who use a misleading domain name intending to trick a person into viewing obscene material, and fines and up to four years’ imprisonment for those who use the domain names to deceive a minor into viewing material that is harmful to minors.

Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., was among House members who crafted anti-pornography bills after the Supreme Court’s ruling in Free Speech Coalition. His bill targeted pedophiles who trick children into viewing sexually explicit material by posting it on sites that have domain names that attract children, such as ones named after movies and toys. Language similar to that which he suggested made it into the PROTECT Act. He proposed that domain names that included the word “sex” to indicate the sexual content of the site would not be deemed misleading; the act expands the rule so that domain names that include the word “porn” also are not deemed misleading.

Though these provisions narrow the field of sites that would be deemed misleading, the provision still could be considered vague. For example, would domain names that don’t contain these words but that have other words that suggest their pornographic content be considered misleading? “If the law is not precise, it may violate the First Amendment,” the founder of Gigalaw.com, Doug Isenberg, wrote in a May 15, 2003, article on CNET News.com. In addition, domain owners are forced to incorporate certain words into their sites’ domain names, which is a form of compelled speech, according to the ACLU. It also notes that such a provision makes it easier for individuals, including children, to find sexually explicit material on the Internet.

Prohibition on sexual expression that is not obscene
The PROTECT Act also may raise constitutional issues because it prohibits sexual expression that is not necessarily obscene. The Supreme Court reaffirmed in Free Speech Coalition that the criteria established in Miller v. California (1973) still apply. Ordinarily the government can ban sexual expression only if it is obscene, but it can ban actual sexual depictions of children even if they’re not obscene because the government has an interest in protecting children. Under the Miller test, material is obscene if:


The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest.
The work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state law.
The work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.

Although the government clearly can ban all real-child pornography, it can only ban obscene virtual child pornography. The PROTECT Act bans virtual child pornography without considering whether it appeals to the prurient interest or is patently offensive, which could make it susceptible to a First Amendment challenge. The CPPA suffered from a similar problem, as the Court made clear in Free Speech Coalition. For example, under the CPPA and the PROTECT Act, pictures in psychology books and movies about sexual abuse could be prohibited, as could such popular movies as the 1996 “Romeo + Juliet” and the 1999 “American Beauty.”

Sexual abuse and exploitation of children is a serious matter. It stirs emotions and impassions people to take action to stop such terrible crimes. Legislators understandably struggle to create tough laws. In their haste, they may overlook and infringe on free-speech rights. The Supreme Court’s ruling in Free Speech Coalition, however, serves as a warning that First Amendment rights must be protected, even when legislators are trying to solve a pressing problem.

Ambika J. Biggs, a 2003 intern in the office of the First Amendment ombudsman in Arlington, Va., is a law student at the University of Virginia.


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@oralloy,
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Sun 23 Sep, 2012 06:48 am
@izzythepush,
izzytheNazi wrote:
your rancid brain


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.



izzytheNazi wrote:
knucklescraper


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.
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