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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:06 pm
@izzythepush,
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I can see why he's giving BillRM such support, birds of a feather and all that.



Talk about birds of a feather and all that you are following Firefly lead like a small male dog follow a you know what in heat from one thread to another. Laughing

Maybe you two should give an in personal relationship a try hell the old old comedy "I was a male war Bride" staring Cary Grant come to mind as the kind of romance that would likely be.
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:20 pm
@izzythepush,
By the way izzy how does it feel to know that US servicemen took over a 100,000 of your women home with them after WW2?

Fulling such ships as the Queen Mary under chart to the US military to do the transportation.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:26 pm
@BillRM,
FF and I don't agree on everything. Anyway she's a far nicer person than me, she spends a lot of time on threads trying to help some real hopeless cases. I don't have the time for that.

Oralboy is a twisted little misanthrope, with genocidal tendencies and a very limited vocabulary. Like you he's also into sexual violence, and is obviously rather sad and inadequate.

If we're talking films, you two could make a reasonable fist of Planet Of The Apes, but you might need to have a shave first.
izzythepush
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:28 pm
@BillRM,
I don't have 10,000 women.
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:37 pm
@izzythepush,
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don't have 10,000 women.


LOL or one most likely.

But then it we had station any large numbers of servicemen after WW2 in England there would by now had been no women remaining in England.
firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:43 pm
@izzythepush,
The way he baits both of us, just to get some, attention is sad. He'd rather be insulted than ignored.

And, at this point, most people are clearly ignoring him, regardless of the topic.
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 12:46 pm
@firefly,
Bait who is baiting who Firefly the public have the right to know. Cool
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izzythepush
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
How do you feel that your woman decided she'd had enough of bestiality, got a restraining order against the chimp, and went off with a real man?
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 03:47 pm
@izzythepush,
LOL I think your are getting me confused with my g0od friend Hawkeye as my sex life is very very tradition with no chimp, no dungeon master and so on.

Can not wait as a matter of fact for Hawkeye book to come out on amazon as I am sure it will outsell fifty shades of gay.

Still think that you and Firefly would rock as a couple just do not have sex with her if she had even had one drink as you would not wish to be charge with rape due to invalid consent issues after the fact.
firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 06:23 pm
@BillRM,
No, he means you.

Remember your first wife? The one who got a restraining order against you? She married someone else the day after your divorce was final.
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I am sure it will outsell fifty shades of gay.

I'll bet you enjoyed that book. So, now you're into men? I hope they're not minors. But I'm sure you'll supply them with a fake ID. You've already posted info on how to get one of those also.
firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 06:32 pm
@izzythepush,
BillRM seems to find this sort of thing amusing...
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..A Swedish man is fighting a heavy fine for possession of child pornography, after police seized 51 drawings from his collection of Japanese manga cartoons.

Simon Lundström, 39, who translates the comics for a living, appeared in Sweden’s Supreme Court today on the first day of his attempt to overturn a ruling last year when 39 of the 51 cartoons seized from his apartment were deemed as child pornography.

Japan’s manga cartoons, which are intended for adults, frequently feature violent and explicit sex, in which innocent young girls falling prey to demonic men.


Promoting children being used for violent sex--even via cartoons--doesn't even give him any pause.

I wonder if he slobbers over his keyboard just thinking about it.
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 08:02 pm
@izzythepush,
izzytheNazi wrote:
A parrot is a lot more intelligent. Oralboy is pondlife


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own stupidity.
oralloy
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 08:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzytheNazi wrote:
Oralboy is a twisted little misanthrope, with genocidal tendencies


Liar.



izzytheNazi wrote:
and a very limited vocabulary.


Liar.



izzytheNazi wrote:
Like you he's also into sexual violence


Liar.



izzytheNazi wrote:
he's into sexual violence


Liar.



izzytheNazi wrote:
and is obviously rather sad and inadequate.


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own sad inadequacy.



izzytheNazi wrote:
If we're talking films, you two could make a reasonable fist of Planet Of The Apes, but you might need to have a shave first.


You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own backwardness.
BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 08:28 pm
@firefly,
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BillRM seems to find this sort of thing amusing...


You are damn right I think it is amusing in a sad way to have the concept of underage cartoon characters and having FBI agents and other law enforcement raiding some one home for downloading such material.

Can not wait until the first raid of someone home occur in the US with a full scale swat team similar to the ones now used for some strange reason when servicing CP search warrants.

Having the members of some family on the ground at gun point with the police demanding to know where are the drawing of underage cartoons characters doing the nasty are being hidden.

I can just see it what did you do to deserve five years in prison, are you a bank robber, a big time drug dealer, a collector of CP. No I am here for downloading cartoons drawings where the characters are underage and having sex.

Not everything that is morally wrong and in bad taste deserve the society wasting it not unlimited police and courts resources to outlaw.

The argument that pictures and videos of children being recorded in the act of being abuse being traded is one hell of an ongoing invasion of their privacy and can be harmful to their mental health and in some cases might create a market for further children being abuse carry enough weight that I am not against CP being outlaw. My only problem had been the insanely harsh sentences for this misdeed in the US.

None of the above apply to cartoons and the only argument for outlawing them is that they might encourage sexual abuse of real children.

Off hand I can think of any numbers of things that would just be as likely to encourage such abuse with my own pet pee being mothers dressing up children as young as a few years old to appear as it they are grown women and having beauty contests with them.

Still I am not for using the power of the state to outlaw such contests.

That the problem you take a good or at least an acceptable idea and go to such an extreme that it get completely insane.

We had already reach and pass the extreme in the US concerning the punishments such misdeeds call for now we are going to go beyond the extreme in making having cartoon drawing into being a very serous crime.




The arg
firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 09:02 pm
@oralloy,
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Liar...liar...liar....you trash...you trash....you trash...liar...you trash...you trash...you trash...

There goes parrot-boy again.
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_265/12100531872tit7A.jpg
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BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 09:23 pm
@firefly,
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She married someone else the day after your divorce was final.


Where did you get that bit of information as the damn woman even kept my last name for four years and I am sure was doing things during that period that did not reflect well on that name.

But in any case, I might be nasty enough to wish you on Izzy but not my first wife on him or any other man.
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firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 09:30 pm
@BillRM,
You use the word "cartoons" as though it's something innocuous--like Bugs Bunny, or Mickey Mouse.

How does that square with drawings that portray violent and explicit sex between minors and an adult?
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None of the above apply to cartoons and the only argument for outlawing them is that they might encourage sexual abuse of real children.

And that's not a sufficient reason?

How about the fact they might encourage violent sexual fantasies involving children, or violent sexual acting-out involving children? Or desensitize viewers to the inappropriateness of sex with children, which can lead to weakening the viewer's control about having sex with an actual child. Or lead viewers to seek out pornography involving actual children.

Well, as you've noted, the material is illegal in the U.S. if it's received by electronic means, or by mail, etc. And it is illegal in the U.K. So, once again, you're just at odds with prevailing moral views of this material and how it should be treated in this country.

So, this is just another of your repetitive rants.




firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 09:46 pm
This one's a former Boy Scout leader...
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Glouco man charged in porn case
Sep. 22, 2012

CAMDEN — A Gloucester County man, who has identified himself as a former Boy Scout leader, is accused of possessing child pornography.

Gerrett Conover, 47, of Woolwich, was arrested earlier this month as he crossed the border from Canada to the United States, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for New Jersey.

Conover allegedly was traveling with a laptop computer that held more than 50 images of child pornography, authorities said.

A later search of his home found at least 10 more images on additional computers and electronic devices, according to the federal prosecutor’s office.

Investigators identified Conover as a suspect after federal investigators in Boston discovered “various individuals” engaged in online chats about sexual abuse of children in 2010, the Attorney’s Office said. Investigators also found that Conover allegedly traded child pornography with at least one person involved in those chats.

Authorities alleged that in one online chat, Conover said he had a “close relationship” with a Boy Scout while the youth was 10 to 17 years old. He also allegedly said “he served as a Boy Scout leader and obtained access to the boy after Boy Scout meetings and during trips.”

Authorities also alleged that Conover discussed his activities in an online chat in November 2010.

“This is a boy I liked and vice versa, but he moved away,” Conover allegedly said, according to a federal complaint filed Thursday. “I gave him sneakers…I tried to keep him permanent…He was nearly perfect…”

Investigators also found “numerous materials allegedly establishing Conover’s involvement in the Boy Scouts” from 1990 to 2000. These included photographs of Conover in a Scout uniform and at scouting events, as well as a Boy Scouts Handbook.

A woman who answered the phone at the Boy Scouts’ Southern New Jersey Council declined to comment.

Leads from the Boston case have resulted in about 45 arrests and the identification of about 150 victimized youngsters, federal authorities said.

Conover was charged with importation or transportation of obscene matters and possession of child pornography after his Sept. 16 arrest in Ogdensburg, N.Y. He now faces an additional charge of receipt and distribution of child pornography.

An attorney for Conover could not be reached.
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20120922/CRIME/309220028/Glouco-man-charged-porn-case

BillRM
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 09:48 pm
@firefly,
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And that's not a sufficient reason?


Hell no not to take someone freedom away for years at great cost to the society for having such material that might or might not encourage someone at some time in the future to abuse a child!!!!!!!!!!!

If we going to walk down that strange strange road of outlawing anything that might repeat might encourage child sexual abuse I would suggest arresting the mothers who dress up their very young girl as mock adult women for pageants some even having fake breasts on them first.

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Well, as you've noted, the material is illegal in the U.S. if it's received by electronic means, or by mail, etc. And it is illegal in the U.K. So, once again, you're just at odds with prevailing moral views of this material and how it should be treated in this country


So far they had not started to enforce this silliness by raids on people homes in the US and the only use this law in the US had been put to up to this point in time is to increase the punishment for those who had been found with both the cartoons and CP.

Can not wait to hear of the first raids of people homes by the government looking for illegal cartoons alone and the first arrests.

Should be some highly amusing news coverage to say the least and I do not think you will be happy with all that coverage but only time will tell.

firefly
 
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Sat 22 Sep, 2012 10:17 pm
@BillRM,
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Hell no not to take someone freedom away for years at great cost to the society for having such material that might or might not encourage someone at some time in the future to abuse a child!!!!!!!!!!!

But that would only happen if someone chose to violate the law, and obtained and possessed this material--as is the case with all forms of child pornography.

Why promote explicit, even violent, sexual images of children involved with adults--in any form, including drawings? Even that does desensitize the viewer to the idea of having sex with children--it makes it appear "more normal"--which is encouragement. Why, in any way, should sexual behavior between minors and adults be encouraged, or be made to seem acceptable and normal?

Sorry, just because some creep might wind up in jail, for violating child pornography laws, means he has risked his own freedom by choosing to acquire that type of illegal material--the government doesn't take away his freedom, he forfeits his freedom by committing a criminal act.





 

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