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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 02:07 pm
@BillRM,
And I'm sure when you tell the jury that you started talking about yours, and your wife's computer security on a thread about child pornography, you'll be laughed out of court.
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Sturgis
 
  2  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 04:28 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
So, posting about WWII, in a thread about child pornography, simply in order to respond to izzy, who has you on ignore, meaning he wouldn't see your post, makes sense to you?
Supposedly has me on ignore, although he sure as **** responded towards it damned fast.

Anyway you have once again missed the point. I was making a correction on a piece of history. I would have done it to any poster, it did not matter if he responded or not.

Izzy, went out of his way a few posts later to make insinuations about me, something which you apparently think is all fine and dandy.
I posted: http://able2know.org/topic/180781-103#post-4920492
Bill then made 2 posts, you then made a post, Bill made another post, and then i.T.P. came skipping in making his disgusting comments.

http://able2know.org/topic/180781-103#post-4920553
izzythepush wrote:
Bill is constantly derailing the topic because he knows he hasn't got a leg to stand on. I'm not surprised Sturgis rushed to his aid, I always knew there was something well dodgy about him.

izzy had not at that time been mentioned by name.


Quote:
Why would you follow izzy around, including to this particular thread, if you think it's " impossible to settle anything with izzy"--unless you came in here to deliberately start a fight with him. I'm not so sure that the thread wasn't deliberately derailed because you were looking for a fight. You admit you posted in here only to respond to him. He didn't go looking for you, you came in here, to go after him.

Again, since you are apparently too stupid to get it the first hundred times...
I did not follow izzy anywhere. I happened to be reading the thread, I saw a piece of misinformation, I decided to respond, I would have responded to anybody who had made that post. I happened to post in response to him, yes, I admit that. For crying out loud, you want misinformation and misrepresentation of facts?
If you saw your greatest enemy post a lie would you stand idly by and do nothing?

I did not come to launch a fight, he made the first attack when he decided to call me dodgy and insinuate that I am a pedophile.

The only reason I posted anything regarding historical facts was that previous posters had already entered into a brief discussion of World War 2. I did not come in saying "gee, let me talk about World War 2 in a child pornography thread." Neither did I say, "gosh golly I sure hope izzy is in there so I can say meanspirited things about him." Note, he said the meanspirited thing about me, prior to that and hasn't stopped since. In point of fact, I even made clear in my start post today that he (izzy) is/was technically correct. I did not attack him.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 05:10 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Again, since you are apparently too stupid to get it...

It's somewhat hypocritical for you to be whining about feeling insulted by another poster, and then turn around and call me "stupid". Should I take being called "stupid" as a compliment?
Quote:
he made the first attack when he decided to call me dodgy and insinuate that I am a pedophile

Well, old boy, unlike you, I am not too stupid to know what "dodgy" means.

Adjective: dodgy (dodgier,dodgiest) dó-jee
Usage: Brit

1.Of uncertain outcome; especially fraught with risk
"an extremely dodgy future on a brave new world of liquid nitrogen, tar, and smog";
- chancy, chanceful, dicey

2.Marked by skill in deception
"dodgy men often pass for wise";
- crafty, cunning, foxy, guileful, knavish, slick, sly, tricksy, tricky, wily

3.Of doubtful quality or legality
Derived forms: dodgier, dodgiest

Do you notice "pedophile" anywhere in that definition?

Try considering the possibility that the "disgraceful insinuation" regarding pedophilia was only in your own mind.
Sturgis
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 05:29 pm
@firefly,
Unlike you and izzy, I don't pretend to be a genius.

Similar to izzy you do a pick and choose in giving a response. Regardless of what you may think izzy meant by the use of Dodgy, the main point is still, that he made an attack on me, unprovoked.

I would say more but realize you aren't ever going to get it. For whatever reason, you can't.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 05:37 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Regardless of what you may think izzy meant by the use of Dodgy...

I assume he meant the accepted definition of the word.

For someone who claims he wasn't trying to intentionally derail a thread, you sure do a good job of faking it.

Or are you being dodgy about your motives regarding this thread? And, before you get hysterical about that statement, I mean "dodgy" in the sense of wily, foxy, deceptive.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 7 Mar, 2012 06:16 pm
@firefly,
Sturgis is clearly obsessive, even though I've got him on ignore, he's still following me around, desperate for my attention, and now he's having an argument with me by proxy. How pathetic is that? He just won't take no for an answer.

Before I had him on ignore he used to address me with the same sort of creepy affectionate terms Bill addresses you. Bill calls you Dear Heart, Sturgis used to call me Sweetie. I think they both revel in the disgust they generate. Sturgis and Bill are both dogy, they're both obsessives and full of sexual malevolence.

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izzythepush
 
  1  
Thu 8 Mar, 2012 02:36 am
@firefly,
I'm not going to learn much in the way of history from someone who thought this guy was one of the Pilgrim Fathers.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/09/size590marchacontraacorrupo-1315511458.jpg
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firefly
 
  1  
Tue 13 Mar, 2012 08:54 am
Quote:
International authorities bust online pedophile network
By the CNN Wire Staff
March 8, 2012 -
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
10 people arrested in four countries tied to online pedophile investigation
Another 112 people have been reported
Video and photos showed children age 11 and younger being sexually abused

Rome (CNN) -- Authorities from Italy to the United States arrested 10 people Thursday for allegedly capturing, viewing and disseminating images through an expansive international online pedophile network.

In addition to those 10 taken into custody in Italy, the United States, France and Portugal, 112 have been reported to law enforcement in those and other countries for "association with crime organizations (that were) producing and distributing pedophile material," the prosecutor's office in Florence, Italy, said in a news release.

Domenico Di Somma, an officer in Italy's national police force, the Carabinieri, said the 112 people were part of a larger social network community that included more than 700 people.

A call to a child abuse help line sparked the investigation more than a year ago, said Di Somma, with the prosecutor's office crediting the anti-pedophile advocacy group Telefono Arcobaleno with providing a series of detailed reports.

Since then, the probe -- dubbed Operation Nanny, according to the Italians, while Portugal's national police called it Operation Hot Line 1 -- has involved police in 28 countries, as well as international law enforcement groups such as Europol and Interpol. The Florence prosecutor singled out actions by authorities in San Diego that helped spur the "first raids in the United States" as well as data acquired by American authorities.

The network featured videos and photos of children under 11 years old being sexually abuse and exploited. In one particularly graphic example, a man in one video is depicted abusing a baby who was only a few months old, said Di Somma, who heads a special internet investigation unit out of Siracusa in Sicily.

It was all part of "an extended pedophile community that used the Internet, especially social networks, in order to sexually exploit children and to spread and exchange pedophile material produced at an artisan level," according to the prosecutor's office.

Di Somma said he could not name the social network in which the images were shared because the investigation is still ongoing. He did say that there were four different online communities, all spun from the same pedophile organization.

The operation is believed to have been spearheaded by a 52-year-old man from Milan who was arrested Thursday, said the Italian police officer.

Earlier in the investigation, authorities took into custody a photographer near Venice and his friend near Florence, said Di Somma.

Portugual's Policia Judiciaria announced Thursday that authorities in that country had searched seven houses and taken computers that had "thousands of images and videos of children performing pornographic and sexual acts."

That led to the arrests of four men, between ages 21 and 78, as part of the broader international sting, the Portuguese national police agency said in a news release.

The Florence prosecutor's office said many of those in Europe under investigation have "records" of pedophilia-related crimes.
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/03/08/world/europe/italy-pedophelia-arrests/
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gungasnake
 
  1  
Tue 13 Mar, 2012 09:08 am
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Unlike you and izzy, I don't pretend to be a genius.


I thought Izzy(the poop) was pretending to be an idiot. Or maybe that wasn't pretense....
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 13 Mar, 2012 09:20 am
@gungasnake,
Nobody does idiocy quite like you Gunga.
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izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 13 Mar, 2012 09:30 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Buzz Killington said
Quote:
Unlike you and izzy, I don't pretend to be a genius.




Buzz said that did he? Well I suppose going into a strop, and calling everyone stupid who doesn't agree with him doesn't count.
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Pamela Rosa
 
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Tue 8 May, 2012 02:31 pm
NY Top Court: Just Viewing Child Porn Not a Crime
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Child-Porn-Online-Not-Crime-NY-Court-150646385.html
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BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 8 May, 2012 08:57 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/29/debate-rages-over-severity-child-porn-sentences/


Debate rages over severity of child-porn sentences
Published April 29, 2012
Associated Press
NEW YORK – Their crimes are so loathsome that some hardened courtroom veterans recoil at viewing the evidence. Yet child-pornography offenders are now the focus of an intense debate within the legal community as to whether the federal sentences they face have become, in many cases, too severe.

By the end of this year, after a review dating to 2009, the U.S. Sentencing Commission plans to release a report that's likely to propose changes to the sentencing guidelines that it oversees. It's a daunting task, given the polarized viewpoints that the commission is weighing.

The issue "is highly charged, both emotionally and politically," said one of the six commissioners, U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell.

On one side of the debate, many federal judges and public defenders say repeated moves by Congress to toughen the penalties over the past 25 years have badly skewed the guidelines, to the point where offenders who possess and distribute child pornography can go to prison for longer than those who actually rape or sexually abuse a child. In a 2010 survey of federal judges by the Sentencing Commission, about 70 percent said the proposed ranges of sentences for possession and receipt of child pornography were too high. Demonstrating their displeasure, federal judges issued child porn sentences below the guidelines 45 percent of the time in 2010, more than double the rate for all other crimes.

On the other hand, some prosecutors and members of Congress, as well as advocates for sexual-abuse victims, oppose any push for more leniency. At a public hearing in February, the Sentencing Commission received a victim's statement lamenting that child pornography offenders "are being entertained by my shame and pain."

"They need to be taught how much pain they inflict and a greater term of imprisonment will teach them that, (and) will comfort victims seeking justice," the victim said. "I don't believe that short periods of imprisonment will accomplish these things."

Once completed, the Sentencing Commission report will be submitted to Congress, which could shelve it or incorporate its recommendations into new legislation.

Already, the commission has conveyed some concerns. In a 2010 report on mandatory minimum sentences, the commission said the penalties for certain child pornography offenses "may be excessively severe and as a result are being applied inconsistently."

However, similar misgivings voiced by the commission in previous years failed to deter Congress from repeatedly ratcheting up the penalties — including legislation in 2003 that more than doubled average sentences for child pornography crimes.

Many of the offenses carry a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in prison, and the guidelines call for additional penalties — known as enhancements — based on a range of factors, such as the age of the children depicted in the imagery and whether a computer was used in the crime. As of last year, the median sentence was seven years.

In a recent article for the journal of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, former Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and former federal prosecutor Linda Dale Hoffa criticized the approach by Congress.

"The fact that child pornography offenders can be given longer sentences than child abusers or violent offenders reflects a lack of care by Congress," Specter and Hoffa wrote. "In the rush to prove itself hostile to individuals who possess or distribute child pornography, Congress has obscured the real distinctions between different offenders."Hoffa doubts Congress will be eager to ease the guidelines.

"If you vote against these harsher penalties, the sound bite is that you're protecting child pornographers, and that could be the end of somebody's career," she said in a telephone interview. "It's a political radioactive hot potato."

As a backdrop to the sentencing debate, Internet-based child pornography has proliferated, and the crime is an increasingly high priority for federal law enforcement agents.

According to the Justice Department, federal prosecutors obtained at least 2,713 indictments for sexual exploitation of minors in 2011, up from 1,901 in 2006. This month, the FBI announced that the latest addition to its "Ten Most Wanted Fugitives" is a former elementary school teacher, Eric Justin Toth, who is accused of possessing and producing child pornography.

In testimony to the Sentencing Commission in February, three Justice Department experts said the sentencing guidelines for child pornography should be revised — not with the overall aim of making them more lenient, but rather to help the courts do a better job of differentiating among offenders and determining appropriate punishment.

"The guideline has not kept pace with technological advancements in both computer media and Internet and software technologies," the DOJ experts said.

As opposed to focusing on the quantity of images collected by an offender, the experts said revised guidelines could take into account the length of time the offender has been involved with child porn, the degree of sophistication of measures taken to avoid detection, and the extent to which the offender communicates as part of a network.

One such network, called Dreamboard, was unraveled by investigators last year. In all, 72 people were charged with participating in an international, members-only Internet club created to trade tens of thousands of images and videos of sexually abused children.

There's one point of agreement in the sentencing debate: All parties agree that penalties should remain severe — or be toughened — for those who produce and promote child pornography.

A key point of contention, by contrast, is the degree to which offenders charged with receipt and possession of child porn pose a risk of physically abusing children themselves, as opposed to looking at images of abuse.

New York-based federal defender Deirdre von Dornum told the Sentencing Commission there's insufficient evidence to prove a strong correlation. Child pornography offenders have a lower recidivism rate than child molesters, she said, and many could be safely monitored via supervised probation.

"Many of these individuals have stable employment, family support, and no prior contact with the criminal justice system," she said. "Punitive terms of imprisonment do nothing but weaken or destroy pro-social influences in their lives."

The Justice Department experts were more skeptical, citing research suggesting that a substantial percentage of child-pornography offenders are pedophiles who either have sexually abused a child or might try to do so.

Von Dornum challenged the premise that tough sentencing would dry up the market for child porn.

"Because child pornography is free, widely available and easy to produce, it is not subject to the normal laws of supply and demand," she said, noting that many countries do not even have laws against it.

She also said the sentencing guidelines contribute to unjust disparities, depending on whether a prosecutor charged a defendant with receipt of child pornography, as well as possession. Under the guidelines, receipt carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence, but possession has no mandatory minimum.

According to von Dornum, the average sentence for a federal child pornography offense in 2010 was higher than for all other offenses except murder and kidnapping. Indeed, the average was about six months higher than for sexual abuse offenders.

"Yet there is significant political pressure to do nothing but continue to increase penalties for these offenders, the 'modern-day untouchables,'" she testified. She urged the commission "to take the difficult step of rising above the politics and fear" and revise the sentencing framework.

Another witness at the February hearing — testifying on behalf of her fellow federal judges in the Judicial Conference of the United States — was Casey Rodgers, chief judge of the Northern District of Florida.

Rodgers stressed that child pornography entails "unspeakable acts by the offenders and unimaginable harm to the child victims."

Nonetheless, she said doubts are growing within the judiciary about the reasonableness of the sentencing guidelines, as demonstrated by the extent to which judges are refusing to follow them and issuing lower sentences.

Rodgers urged the commission to propose repealing the mandatory minimum sentence for receipt of child porn. And she said the guidelines should be revised to help judges better identify which offenders are at greatest risk of committing future sexual abuse of children.

"Lengthy terms of incarceration alone will not adequately address the harms of these offenders," she testified. "Greater reliance on the use of supervised release should be considered."

Troy Stabenow, an assistant federal public defender in Missouri, said the judges' resistance to the sentencing guidelines was "pretty courageous,"

"They're doing it knowing they're likely be lambasted in the media," he said. "They wouldn't be doing it unless they really believe a lot of typical offenders they see are not the menace that people assume they are."

In Congress, some Republicans have voiced dismay at the judges' stance, as evidenced by a recent letter to the Sentencing Commission from Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the House Subcommittee on Crime.

"I am concerned that the federal judiciary is failing to consider the severity of child pornography and its victims," he wrote. "This departure rate is disturbing and threatens the most vulnerable among us, our children."

Among Democrats in Congress, there are numerous critics of mandatory minimum sentences — for example, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt. But members of Leahy's staff doubt there will be any groundswell of support in Congress for easing child-pornography sentences.

One of the few recent rollbacks of sentencing laws came in 2010 when Congress reduced the difference between sentences for crimes committed by crack cocaine and powder cocaine users.

The disparity had been assailed by civil-rights advocates as a form of racial discrimination because most people convicted of crack crimes were black.

There's no equivalent advocacy campaign on behalf of child porn offenders, about 90 percent of whom are white.

"You don't have any built-in sympathy," said Jelani Jefferson Exum, a professor at the University of Toledo College of Law. "Who's going to stand up and say, 'I'm fighting for child porn possessors.'"

Susan Howley, public policy director for the National Center for Victims of Crime, has been urging those involved in the debate to keep the victims in mind. She says they face higher risk of developing mental health disorders, sexual dysfunction and substance abuse problems.

"While sentencing does not appear to be the perfect tool to reduce the market for child abuse images, it is one of the few tools available," Howley told the public hearing in February. "Through sentencing we express to society, and to the individual victims and family members harmed, that we recognize the seriousness of this offense."

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Online:

Sentencing Commission: http://www.ussc.gov/

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David Crary can be followed on Twitter at http://twitter.com/CraryAP
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BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 12:20 pm
In the ideal world of Firefly all repeat all males are to be assume to be pedophiles.

Damn those lying men who claim to be not interest if children sexually and even threatening to sue when they are treated like criminals for being male and around children.

I wonder how we had gone from no blacks are welcome in selected areas to no males in selected areas in 60 years.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/05/arizona-doctor-ousted-from-barnes-and-noble-for-being-alone-in-children-section/


By Cristina Corbin
Published June 05, 2012
FoxNews.com
An Arizona doctor thrown out of a Barnes & Noble bookstore because he was alone in the children’s section said he will sue the company if he does not get a public apology from the employee who ousted him.

Dr. Omar Amin, 73, of Scottsdale, said he was shopping for books for his grandchildren at his neighborhood bookstore May 4 when he was bounced simply because he was not accompanied by a child. After initially defending its handling of the matter, the company issued a statement apologizing to Amin. But it wasn't good enough for Amin, who is still stinging from the incident.

“I do not intend to let this slide by,” Amin told FoxNews.com. “I want the person who insulted me in the store to apologize to me in public, in the store, and on camera. If I do not get that, I am going to court.” He said he also wants to see the letter of reprimand that the company claims it issued to the employee.

Amin said he wound up in the reading area of the children's section after he received a call on his cellphone. He said the area appeared to be empty, and he went there to avoid disturbing other customers.

“This man approached me and asked if I was in the store by myself,” Amin explained. “He said ‘You cannot stay. This is not an area where men are allowed to be by themselves.’

“I did not break any rules,” he said, adding that he was “firmly escorted out” of the store. “If that is Barnes & Noble’s policy, they should put up a sign saying men are not allowed beyond this point unless they are with children.”

Amin, who emigrated from Egypt 45 years ago and is a U.S. citizen, said he was told a female customer had complained about his presence in the children’s section, and said the employee who threw him out cited reports of alleged child molestation in other bookstores. Amin told FoxNews.com he believes his civil rights were violated.

The Arizona Republic identified the Barnes & Noble employee as Todd Voris.

In a statement released to FoxNews.com on Tuesday, Barnes & Noble vice president Mark Bottini said, “We want to apologize to Dr. Amin for a situation in which Dr. Amin was asked to leave the children’s section of our Scottsdale, Ariz., store.”

“We should not have done so,” Bottini said. “It is not our policy to ask customers to leave any section of our stores without justification. We value Dr. Amin as a customer and look forward to welcoming him in any of our stores.”

Bottini’s apology came after the company released a statement last week, saying it had “acted appropriately” in removing Amin from the store, according to the Arizona Republic.

The exact details of the woman’s complaint are not known, but reports of alleged child molestation over the past year in libraries in the state may have prompted her concern. A 31-year-old registered sex offender, for instance, was arrested in February for allegedly preying on young girls at a library in nearby Phoenix. Officer David Pubins of the Scottsdale Police Department told FoxNews.com he did not know of any similar recent


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/05/arizona-doctor-ousted-from-barnes-and-noble-for-being-alone-in-children-section/#ixzz1wwZfXvQl
firefly
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 01:52 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
In the ideal world of Firefly all repeat all males are to be assume to be pedophiles.

Not all--only you. Smile
Quote:
In a statement released to FoxNews.com on Tuesday, Barnes & Noble vice president Mark Bottini said, “We want to apologize to Dr. Amin for a situation in which Dr. Amin was asked to leave the children’s section of our Scottsdale, Ariz., store.”

“We should not have done so,” Bottini said. “It is not our policy to ask customers to leave any section of our stores without justification. We value Dr. Amin as a customer and look forward to welcoming him in any of our stores.”

Bottini’s apology came after the company released a statement last week, saying it had “acted appropriately” in removing Amin from the store, according to the Arizona Republic.

Barnes & Noble seems confused about what their position on this matter really is. First they say they say they had "acted appropriately" in asking the man to leave, then they said they should not have done so.

This man can threaten to sue all he wants, he doesn't have a case.

Unfortunately, since the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are male, an unaccompanied adult man, in an area where children congregate, will make some people uncomfortable and concerned for the safety of the children. Most men understand that and they don't put themselves in that sort of situation, or they don't make an issue of it if asked to leave.

Unfortunately, you chose to omit this statement from the article you posted.
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People should not always bury their instincts," Dr. Keith Ablow, a Fox News contributor, said of the controversy.

"Like it or not, most child abductors and sexual predators are male. While many people object to profiling anyone, a man who frequents the children's section of a bookstore alone is worth a second look," he said, though he noted, "I'm not aware this man was a frequent customer."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/05/arizona-doctor-ousted-from-barnes-and-noble-for-being-alone-in-children-section/#ixzz1wwxDHPzs

So, if the sight of an unaccompanied male in an area where children can be found gives people cause for concern, they should not ignore it.

Unaccompanied men can find other places to sit--they don't have to hang around children or a children's area.






firefly
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 02:01 pm
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Anonymous lists Twitter handles of suspected pedophiles
By Matt Liebowitz
6/5/2012

Anonymous hacktivists are in the midst of a campaign to name and shame suspected pedophiles who allegedly use Twitter to prey on and harass underage children.

Named #TwitterPedoRing, the operation began yesterday (June 4), and has already seen data dumps of hundreds of Twitter accounts that Anonymous followers believe belong to pedophiles.

In an unsigned Pastebin post, someone claiming to speak for Anonymous wrote, "This is a list of pedophiles that Twitter hasn't deemed important to remove despite their affiliations with each other, their posts of children participating in lewd acts, and their requests for this sort of material."

The posting contined, "We are releasing these names in hopes that Twitter will work together with LEA [law enforcement authorities] in order to catch and stop these scumbags."

Before listing the Twitter handles, the hacktivists issued a stern threat: "You mess with our children, you mess with us."

In an email to SecurityNewsDaily, Twitter spokesman Robert Weeks said, "We do not tolerate child pornography on Twitter. We have investigated all reported accounts in question and taken appropriate action on the offending accounts with suspensions and reports to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children."

Weeks continued, "When we are made aware of accounts uploading links to images of or content promoting child pornography they will be removed from the site without further notice and reported to NCMEC; we permanently suspend accounts containing updates with links to child pornography."

Weeks said if you come across a Twitter account distributing child pornography, email [email protected] with a link to the profile and relevant tweets that lead you to believe the account should be investigated.

The effort to break up the "TwitterPedoRing" is the latest strike in an ongoing Anonymous-based crusade to shame suspected pedophiles. In May, an Anonymous group claimed to have breached the servers of an illegal child porn website, leaking the credentials of 11 registered users.

That phase of the campaign was "Operation Darknet," in which Anonymous members last October claimed to have infiltrated and taken down more than 40 child-pornography websites and leaked the names of more than 1,500 members of one of the sites. The claims could not be independently verified.

In its analysis of this latest development, English-language Russian news site RT.com said, "Given their latest release ... Anonymous might be better at policing the Web than any of the government agencies paid billions to protect children."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47690302/ns/technology_and_science-security/
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BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 03:44 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
In the ideal world of Firefly all repeat all males are to be assume to be pedophiles.

Not all--only you.


An my wife also it would seems from your past comments or anyone else that have any disagree with any of the details of our laws in that area even I would assume the majority of siting Federal judges.

Quote:
Barnes & Noble seems confused about what their position on this matter really is. First they say they say they had "acted appropriately" in asking the man to leave, then they said they should not have done so.

This man can threaten to sue all he wants, he doesn't have a case.


I love that you are such a expert on the laws and yet will not reveal your background legal or otherwise.What are you hiding Firefly?

Second the legal matter is very secondary as at least half the customers are males that can and likely would withdrawn their businesses over the matter in large numbers.

Very bad PR in any case to say the least.

Quote:
Unfortunately, since the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are male, an unaccompanied adult man, in an area where children congregate, will make some people uncomfortable and concerned for the safety of the children. Most men understand that and they don't put themselves in that sort of situation, or they don't make an issue of it if asked to leave.


Unless you are claiming otherwise the number of male pedophiles is very very tiny compare to the male population and as blacks are far more likely to be involved with the criminal justice system then non-blacks so by your theory businesses should have the right to ask blacks to leave stores for being blacks.

People being unconformable is just too damn bad however those emotions does not allow sex discrimination anymore then it allow racist discrimination.

Too bad B@N back down as having a good old fashion civil right sit in at B@N child section would be kind of fun as I was too young to take part in the freedoms rides in the 1960s.



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BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 04:00 pm
You know Firefly as a grandfather of four children my being in a child section looking to buy child books or my grandchildren would hardly be surprising or shocking and that must be true of many millions of BN males customers.

That some woman would get her panties in a bind over seeing a man in such a section and that some fool of a BN employee would take actions just tell you how damn sick and anti-male the society had become.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 04:18 pm
In fact I been running my mind back and off hand I can not remembering shopping for child books alone but I had always love shopping for toys for the male children in my family.

Buying toys similar to the ones that I had played with in the 1950s bringing back many good memories and normally my wife and I divide the task of toy buying so she picked the toys for the girls and I picked the ones for the boys.

A lot of the times we do not shop together or at the same time so I am assuming that if you get your wish men will no longer be allow to shop in toy stores alone.

What a awful world you are trying to create.

firefly
 
  1  
Tue 5 Jun, 2012 05:15 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
You know Firefly as a grandfather of four children my being in a child section looking to buy child books or my grandchildren would hardly be surprising or shocking and that must be true of many millions of BN males customers.

The man they asked to leave Barnes & Noble was not in the area where children's books are sold--he was in the children's reading area, a place where he really did not belong.

You're an idiot. This has nothing to do with "sex discrimination".

And the people in the park who were disturbed by your interacting with strange children, and luring them with kittens, were right not to ignore their concerns. They should have wanted you to leave. Unaccompanied adults should think twice about hanging around children they do not know.

If you don't want to be regarded as a possible pedophile or child abductor, don't act like one.
 

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