Is that stuff that JTT says about America true?

Do they not teach in school anymore how to find information? Or is it that you are too lazy to do the work?

Aren't you a laugh, Hawkeye? Gracie is at the top of her class, she's been advanced because of her smarts.

Care to fill Gracie in using all your research skills and your "education"

I looked up embargo and that means you cant move ships right? So all those little kids died because the US military people didnt move their ships? How could that have hurt all those kids? And why would we do that if we knew kids in Iraq would get hurt? What did the US want?

Why We Ignored Iraq in the 1990s

by John Pilger

Even before the 2003 war, we were attacking Iraqi civilians with our inhumane economic sanctions. Yet where were the media protesting against this injustice?

In October 1999, I stood in a ward of dying children in Baghdad with Denis Halliday, who the previous year had resigned as assistant secretary general of the United Nations. He said: "We are waging a war through the United Nations on the people of Iraq. We're targeting civilians. Worse, we're targeting children . . . What is this all about?"

Halliday had been 34 years with the UN. As an international civil servant much respected in the field of "helping people, not harming them," as he put it, he had been sent to Iraq to implement the oil-for-food programme, which he subsequently denounced as a sham. "I am resigning," he wrote, "because the policy of economic sanctions is . . . destroying an entire society. Five thousand children are dying every month. I don't want to administer a programme that satisfies the definition of genocide."

Halliday's successor, Hans von Sponeck, another assistant secretary general with more than 30 years' service, also resigned in protest. Jutta Burghardt, the head of the World Food Programme in Iraq, followed them, saying she could no longer tolerate what was being done to the Iraqi people. Their collective action was unprecedented; yet it received only passing media attention. There was no serious inquiry by journalists into their grave charges against the British and American governments, which in effect ran the embargo. Von Sponeck's disclosure that the sanctions restricted Iraqis to living on little more than $100 a year was not reported. "Deliberate strangulation," he called it. Neither was the fact that, up to July 2002, more than $5bn worth of humanitarian supplies, which had been approved by the UN sanctions committee and paid for by Iraq, were blocked by George W Bush, with Tony Blair's backing. They included food products, medicines and medical equipment, as well as items vital for water and sanitation, agriculture and education.

The cost in lives was staggering. Between 1991 and 1998, reported Unicef, 500,000 Iraqi children under the age of five died. "If you include adults," said Halliday, "the figure is now almost certainly well over a million." In 1996, in an interview on the American current affairs programme 60 Minutes, Madeleine Albright, then US ambassador to the UN, was asked: "We have heard that half a million children have died . . . is the price worth it?" Albright replied, "We think the price is worth it." The television network CBS has since refused to allow the videotape of that interview to be shown again, and the reporter will not discuss it.

Read on at,

http://www.lewrockwell.com/pilger/pilger16.html

No, and I dont recommend that anyone else do it either.

how infantile is this gonna get?

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No, and I dont recommend that anyone else do it either.

Why might that be, Mr Honesty?

She has to want to know bad enough to be willing to do some work to find out, failing that throwing information at her is a waste of time, nothing is going to stick.

You know that to be false, Hawk. Consider how much of a lifetime of propaganda has stuck with you and all the others who now can't face reality.

Reality and the advertised story sold by those pushing their agenda are not equivalent. One requires dedication to know, the other laziness in order to think that we believe.

You JTT are suffering from logic fail

and gracie has asked him nicely to not post on her threads.

Thats what Iraq has that we want? Oil?

American soldiers are doing all this stuff right? People in the military and armies? How come they dont talk about all that stuff that happens in war when they come home? I've never even heard about America doing war crimes and stuff. How did you find out? Did America ever hurt your country too?

The CIA
America's Premier International
(and Domestic) Terrorist Organization
(But with strong competition from Pentagon Special Ops)

...

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment.

So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination.

These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator's security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists" [or these days "terrorists"] but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

— Steve Kangas: Timeline of CIA Atrocities

http://www.serendipity.li/cia.html