8-year-old Leiby Kletzky murder

I find myself strangely unconcerned by this butcher's happiness

Arella Mae wrote:

Leopold was also responsible for introducing education into the prisons (can't remember exactly how). I saw a documentary on it the other day. I had no idea he had done that or that he had gotten out of jail. Shows how depraved mankind can be.................only evil thinks of doing what they did.

Leopold was also married, while in jail ( as far as I can recall ).

We 'll never know, but he alleges that the posters and the great search
paniced him.

He admits the murder, but denies any kidnapping
and he alleges that he was a good host, up to, but not including, the murder.

The New York Times
July 14, 2011
A World Sheltered From TV, if Not Violence
By JIM DWYER

Down the block from the home of Levi Aron, the hardware-store clerk accused this week of slaughtering a child in Brooklyn, a neighbor, Miriam Levy, spoke about peculiar qualities that she had discovered only after Mr. Aron’s arrest.

Ms. Levy, 22, had looked at an online profile for him.

“His interests were ‘American Idol,’ Lady Gaga and ‘Glee,’ ” she said.

These may be fixtures of popular culture, but they are exotica in the ultra-Orthodox communities of Borough Park and the neighboring Kensington, where Mr. Aron lived, she explained.

“Most of us, the kids in this neighborhood, we don’t have TVs,” Ms. Levy said. “We wouldn’t know about such things.”

Leiby Kletzky, 8, vanished late Monday afternoon and was lost to his world for more than 30 hours, until police officers found his feet in Mr. Aron’s freezer early Wednesday.

For now, Mr. Aron is the only narrator of those missing hours, and his account must be viewed with great caution. In it, the authorities report, Mr. Aron stated that Leiby was alive until Tuesday night, when Mr. Aron killed him in a panic over the extensive search that the boy’s disappearance had inspired.

In this version of events, Leiby spent Tuesday in Mr. Aron’s house, watching television while Mr. Aron went to work. If the story is true, the boy was indulging a fascination with something that he had almost no experience with. He had crossed a bridge into a world that his community worked mightily to keep away.

On Thursday, four mourners who were leaving the Kletzky house stopped for a moment.

“There’s no TV in there,” said Barry Feldheim, 35. This is a common circumstance in the households of Borough Park, and the reason, he said, is simple: Television distorts reality and is not true to life as it is actually lived in the Hasidic community or elsewhere.

“We don’t want kids to see violence, murders,” Mr. Feldheim said. “Even romance.”

The absence of television is not a religious edict, at least as far as anyone could recall on the street on Thursday. It is a custom, and a protective one, said Rachel Eidlis, a schoolteacher. “It’s not trying to cover up or hide from the world,” Ms. Eidlis said. “When you watch these things on television, you lose sensitivity.”

Her husband, Benjamin Eidlis, said that computers were far more common, as it was all but impossible to survive in the business world without being online. The television, with its one-way stream, could not be seen as essential, and certainly not as desirable, he said.

OF course, it is entirely possible that the account of young Leiby watching television in Mr. Aron’s attic was created as a kind of wishful lie by a man who wanted to endow the boy’s time in his care with some meaning beyond the deranged brutality of its end.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/15/nyregion/sheltered-hasidic-community-stunned-by-kletzky-killing.html?src=recg&pagewanted=print

David - that little boy was probably sound asleep when that guy turned on him.

I think he should spend some time with a group of 3rd graders
and see how many he wants armed in his neighborhood...

Yes, in fact he initially stated that at the age of 8
he skipped around town with his trusty .38 revolver.

(2nd page this thread, post 9 or 10 on the page)

www.able2know.org/topic/174521-2#post-4665634

"Thay said that there was no evidence of any sexual abuse,
which leaves his motive unidentified, except that he said
that he "paniced."

Perhaps, in time, he will be more forthcoming qua his reason.
It was with that sort of thing in mind that I always carried
a .38 revolver, when I was his age."


It was then that he lost all credibility.

that was like 100 years ago.

today's 3rd graders aren't the thoughtful states rights advocates that you and Henry Ford were...

Imagine Chuckee Cheeses with pistols and live ammunition.

I don't think so, Charlie Brown...

dave,

you are advocating arming (heavily, I might add) all traveling 8 year olds?


Really...?