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The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

 
 
Glennn
 
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Reply Mon 26 Aug, 2019 11:36 am
@Zardoz,
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If the FBI profile of a mass murder was distributed to schools at least they would know what warning signs to watch for. But there is a problem the NRA has prevented any laws from being passed that would allow the police to take the arsenal of thousands of bullets and assault weapons away from a potential mass murderer.

Ah, so it was the NRA that prevented the FBI from responding to Nicolas Cruz after he publicly announced that he wanted to become a school shooter, and after he showed his arsenal laid out on his bed, and after some guy called the FBI directly and showed them the video of Cruz doing these things.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 26 Aug, 2019 08:15 pm
@Baldimo,
The article that post was based on is: “Trump Allies Target Journalists Over Coverage Deemed Hostile to White House” from The New York Times.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 26 Aug, 2019 08:45 pm
@Glennn,
The NRA has used an army of bribed politician to block red flag laws. If I knew that the kids across the road had assembled an arsenal and were out target practicing everyday and heard rumors that they planned to shoot up the school. If I called the FBI there would be nothing they could do without a red flag law. There were videos of Cruz shooting his assault weapon and he could legally shoot his assault weapon all he wanted because the NRA killed the assault weapon ban. If that ban had been in place Cruz would never have had a weapon of war in the first place. Psychologists who study mass murderers will tell you these murderers aren’t the secret squirrel type and since it may take years to accumulate enough ammunition and weapons many people will know their intentions, some will believe they are not serious, others will write them off as nuts and liars.

If the FBI had questioned Cruz all he had to do was say he was kidding. Cruz could have had enough ammunition to wage a small war and the NRA will defend mass murderer’s right to have unlimited amounts of ammunition and weapons of war to the very last crooked politician who is taking their blood money.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Tue 27 Aug, 2019 08:47 am
@Zardoz,
Is that anything like Obama setting up a govt website so people could report people and news that didn't promote Obama's agenda?
Glennn
 
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Reply Tue 27 Aug, 2019 10:24 am
@Zardoz,
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If I knew that the kids across the road had assembled an arsenal and were out target practicing everyday and heard rumors that they planned to shoot up the school. If I called the FBI there would be nothing they could do without a red flag law.

In light of the alleged rash of school shootings, when someone goes online and threatens to shoot school kids (become a school shooter), that constitutes a written threat to commit murder, which is a felony. That's why the FBI admitted that the information they received should have been assessed as a potential threat to life, and that they failed to act.

More on that

The FBI said that on September 24 it was notified about a comment on YouTube from someone with the username “nikolas cruz.” The comment said: “I’m going to be a professional school shooter.” The notification came from a video blogger on You Tube who found it disturbing enough that it didn't feel sufficient to simply flag it as inappropriate. So he emailed an image to the FBI. When that bounced back, he called the local FBI field office.

An Instagram account that belonged to Cruz showed photographs of firearms, including one showing a gun's laser sight pointed at a street. Another photo showed at least half-a-dozen weapons laid out on a bed with the caption "arsenal". A third photo showed a dead frog's bloody body.

The FBI failed to act on a tip about Nikolas Cruz, the confessed shooter in the Parkland, Florida, school massacre, the bureau said in a statement on Friday. A person close to Cruz contacted the FBI on January 5 to report concerns about him, the FBI said in a statement Friday. But the bureau did not appropriately follow established protocols in following up on the tip. The FBI said the caller provided information about "Cruz's gun ownership, desire to kill people, erratic behavior, and disturbing social media posts, as well as the potential of him conducting a school shooting." The information should have been assessed as a "potential threat to life," the bureau said. The FBI failed to act on a tip about Nikolas Cruz, the confessed shooter in the Parkland, Florida, school massacre, the bureau said in a statement on Friday.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 27 Aug, 2019 08:18 pm
@Baldimo,
Reporting is one thing; black mailing people is quite another. The news is out there for everyone to read so there is really no need to report it.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 27 Aug, 2019 08:59 pm
@Glennn,
Do you have any idea how many nuts call the FBI gets everyday reporting they or someone else is going to shoot up a school or they know someone that is going to shoot up the school? They may report that aliens are landing in central park. Or that the CIA is monitoring them and controlling their thoughts. If we had a 100-times more FBI agents they could not check out half of those calls. But hind sight is always 20/20 and if you sift all those calls after the fact it will be obvious which call out of a 100,000 was in fact real. I have been on the other end of the phone and sometimes the people report all sorts of false charges to harass people. When there was a shooting in the neighborhood I would always check to see if one of the parties were involved. There are books out there to tell how to harass people by using the authorities. If I had not checked out a call and someone was actually shot it would be easy to use hindsight to say see you were told this was going to happen and you should have done something but they would not see the 1000 false calls. Monday morning quartering backing is always so accurate. Right now, SWATING is in vogue someone calls and says they have just murdered their father and are thinking about killing their sisters. SWAT responds and sometimes people are killed but it was just a joke by someone masking their telephone number. This is happening all over the country.

The FBI arrested a 15-year- old last week because he posted he was going to shoot up the school and kill at least 7 on gamming site, he did not even own a gun. There are literally thousands of potential mass murders in America today, all armed with assault weapons thanks to the NRA. The NRA has made sure every mass murderer in America can own thousands of guns and there is nothing that can be done about it, it is legal to own as many guns as you want. The FBI could do anything about Cruz’s arsenal or any other potential mass murderer’s arsenal either. There were so many calls about mass murders at local schools that schools were closed for a hundred- mile radius.
Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 07:56 am
@Zardoz,
A terroristic threat is a crime generally involving a threat to commit violence communicated with the intent to terrorize another, to cause evacuation of a building, or to cause serious public inconvenience, in reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror or inconvenience. It may mean an offense against property or involving danger to another person that may include but is not limited to recklessly endangering another person, harassment, stalking, ethnic intimidation, and criminal mischief.

https://definitions.uslegal.com/t/terroristic-threat/

Cruz exactly fit that description. This was no anonymous tip. And the FBI admits their failure to act.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 08:21 pm
@Glennn,
How many times have you had to evacuate a building because of a bomb threat? It is not uncommon around here. If a kid did not want to go to school that day, they simply called a bomb threat in. Very little effort was ever expended to find the offenders That is terrorist threatening also. I came into city hall one day and noticed everybody was leaving it seems it was another bomb threat. The police usually went through the building and “looked” for the bomb. Terrorist threatening is far more common then you imagine. What should have sent red flags up was that any civilian had a weapon of war but the NRA thinks all mass murderers have an absolute right to weapons of war. The only time much effort is extended is if they actually found a bomb. Terrorist threatening is a low priority.
Glennn
 
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Reply Wed 28 Aug, 2019 09:37 pm
@Zardoz,
Again, a written or verbal threat to kill or do bodily harm is a felony. Therefore, Cruz committed a felony. If a person was doing something illegal online, like threatening to shoot kids in school for instance, the FBI can ask for legal permission to contact the internet service provider and have them provide that account holder's name and address. They failed to do so, and they've admitted as much.

And here is the whole story concerning the person who knew Cruz and called the FBI:

Not only did the January caller to the FBI warn about violent behavior, but she said she was specifically concerned about Cruz shooting students at his former school.

"He's [been] thrown out [of] all these schools because he would pick up a chair and just throw it at somebody, a teacher or a student because he didn't like the way they were talking to him," she said. "I just think about you know, [him] getting into a school and just shooting the place up."

Her main concern, according to the transcript, were pictures and threats Cruz posted on multiple Instagram accounts, including weapons and dead animals that he would cut open.

"If you go into his Instagram pages, you'll see all the guns," she said. "On the Instagram he said, 'I want to kill people.'"

The caller referred to Cruz as being confused, sometimes dressing up "like a ninja or a-a-a- ISIS guy."

"Tell you how confused he is, he's got the Make America Great Again hat on," she said about one of his Instagram posts. "And his face is all covered with a scarf."

She also alleged that he was using money from his deceased adopted mother's account to buy ammunition and weapons.

"He took the money out, the social security money out, and he took it and he bought all these rifles and ammunition and he posted pictures of them on the Instragram," the caller said, adding that Cruz was expected to receive money after his adopted mother's death. "The main concern is also when he gets his $25,000, he's not going to give it to this man to invest. He's going to buy guns."

The unidentified woman added she had called local police in the past, and that she felt she needed to contact someone about Cruz and his social media posts.

"I didn't know whether to call you or Homeland Security or who, but like, like I said, um, when you look into this, you can make the decision as to whether you want to go further or not," she said, according to the transcript. "I just want to, you know, get it off my chest in case something does happen and I do believe something's going to happen."
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Now, do you really believe that after this woman called and tipped off the FBI about Nikolas Cruz, they didn't know where she was from or who she was talking about?

The FBI was directed to proof of that threat and of the name on the You Tube account. That was the evidence they needed to get the subpoena. The later tip they received from the caller who knew Cruz is proof that they knew who and where he was. She directed them to his disturbing Instagram posts which showed, among other things, his arsenal. So they had his written threat to kill school kids, and they had the tip from someone else who knew him.

According to the FBI, The information should have been assessed as a "potential threat to life," the bureau said. The FBI failed to act on a tip about Nikolas Cruz, the confessed shooter in the Parkland, Florida, school massacre, the bureau said in a statement on Friday. Do understand what they mean?
Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 29 Aug, 2019 09:03 pm
@Glennn,
Let’s say you are a supervisor over a local FBI office you have six agents come Monday morning you get 100 bomb threats at schools throughout the area and a few calls saying they are going to shoot up a school. What do you do draw straws? Pick calls out of hat? Do you send agents to court that day? If agents don’t appear the cases are dropped. It is all so easy to Monday morning quarterback. One the complaints we always had was when the public called in, they think people are just setting around waiting on them to call. Believe me that is not what is going on.

You are trying to blame everybody but who is responsible. The NRA (Gun Manufactures) flooding the streets with weapons of war weapons are as responsible as the mass murderers. There will always be calls that slip through the cracks. The bomb threats are not taken as seriously as they once were for one reason explosives can no longer be bought by anyone at the local hardware store. Cars and houses were blown up all the time killing innocent people. Americans watched as innocent children were blown up as gangsters were blowing each other up and they could not get all the gangsters but they could make explosive only legal for licensed professionals.

What about all the mass murders that there were no tips called in to the FBI. The Las Vegas mass murder where 59 were killed and 500 injured. The FBI still has no clue why he did there were no sign that he would do anything. A missed tip will never be a solution to the problem because even if every tip is followed up on the vast majority of mass murders will continue. What the experts can agree on is that mass murders are going to get much more frequent and much more deadly. Once a taboo is breached it becomes much easier for the next mass murderer to breach that taboo.

We don’t know who took the call, possibly a secretary or even an answering machine. When I would try and contact other offices in the police Department you would get voice mail and seldom got a return call. The FBI is now trying to up their game and is starting to grab guns in spite of the NRA. A 72-year-ld man threatened suicide and the police grabbed one of the biggest arsenals the police had ever seen. There have been several recent incidents where the guns were grabbed. That what you wanted in this case.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Fri 30 Aug, 2019 08:41 pm
Mass murderers have some things in common.
1) History of failure, inability to cope with problems.
2) Blames others for it, wants revenge;
3) Isolates themselves from social support;
4) Catastrophize a recent event;
5) Have access to weapons they consider apt for revenge;

From: the book: ”Mass Killers : Inside the Minds of Men Who Murder”
Out of 330 million people how many do you think might fit this profile? The NRA wants to make sure they all have access to weapons of war. Of course, the FBI can try and grab all the guns before the mass murderers take place but would it not be easier to keep the mass murderers from getting weapons of war in the first place?
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sat 31 Aug, 2019 08:43 pm
Charles Manson believed that he could start a race war by using seed killings. That didn’t happen but Trump may succeed were Manson failed. By Trump’s labeling Hispanics as an “infestation” of criminals, rapists and gang members he was responsible for the Mass Murderers in El Paso, the equivalent to a modern-day lynching. Another mass murder took place a couple hundred miles from El Paso today. Details about the mass murders are not yet out. With white supremacists killing Hispanics it is only a matter time before Hispanics mass murderers target whites. Whether the mass murderer was on the way to kill Hispanics and was stopped by the police is not known yet. Trump can make America another Iraq where the Sunni and Shia kill each other all the time but instead it would be the whites and the Hispanics killing each other and Trump would be standing by smiling if it benefits him politically. Charly Manson’s dream of race war may just come true in Trump’s America god knows Trump has done everything in his power to start one.
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Glennn
 
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Reply Sat 31 Aug, 2019 09:00 pm
@Zardoz,
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You are trying to blame everybody but who is responsible.

Actually, you have just been caught trying to let the FBI off the hook for ignoring the specific warnings that came from specific multiple sources about a specific individual. The FBI itself has admitted as much. But you, in your obsession with the NRA, choose to remain in denial of that truth.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sun 1 Sep, 2019 08:51 pm
The shooter and his assault weapon did the shooting not the FBI. To try and make the FBI responsible for the mass murder of school children is just scapegoating. The only way the FBI would be responsible for the mass murder would be if they went into the high school and did the actual shooting they would be at fault. We know who did the shooting and we know he did it because he had easy access to weapons of war. Don’t blame the could of, would of, should of.

We all know what a numeric progression is, 1, 2, 4, 8,16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1014. What if instead of doubling it went up by a factor of 35. In studying mass murderers, they found that the inspiration for 35 more mass murders was the shooter from Columbine, Eric Harris. He was admired as a hero by some others thought he was a god. If each of these mass murderers spawns 35 more mass murders that would be 1225 the next step would be 42,875 mass murders. They will never stop all these mass murderers or will they be locked up in mental institutions for life. They only possible solutions is take away the their tools, the weapons of war that make mass destruction so easy a child could do it.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 2 Sep, 2019 08:58 pm
In the face of the mass killings in Texas, the Texas legislature, at the bequest of the NRA passed several laws spreading even more gun around Texas. If guns are killing people the obvious solution according to the gun manufacturers is even more guns, in even more places. Of course, the gun manufacturers will make huge profits on this solution. Trump wants to bring back those old-time mental institution were the people with mental defects were locked up for life. The problem with Trump solution is the other branch of the government, the courts, out lawed this type of treatment for the mentally ill. The courts ruled that anyone that could not be shown to be a danger to themselves or others could not be held in a mental institution. What Trump doesn’t know could fill several libraries. This doesn’t mean that these people could not be a danger to others at sometimes in the future only that they could not be sentenced to life in an institution.

Trump’s second solution make mass murder a federal crime that carries a death sentence. Mass murderers are depressed and they intend to commit suicide by cop. That will really work as a deterrent telling someone who wants to die that they will be killed. That shows how stupid Trump is. When did the Texas shooter become a danger to others? That morning when he was fired from his job. Up until that point the shooter is not a danger but in an instant, he becomes a danger to everyone. The only solution is to take the weapons of war off the streets of America.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 3 Sep, 2019 09:03 pm
What will push the public opinion over the tipping point on assault weapons is when they personalize the mass murders instead thinking of them as an abstract occurance. We all know that we are subject to be struck with lightening but seldom worry about it even in a thunderstorm. This is the way we have thought about mass murders our chance of being murdered by a mass murderer seems slim but now we are seeing some people who have been victims of two mass shootings. People will not get involved to solve the problem until they see mass murderer as a threat to them and their family. New schools are now being constructed with panic rooms to keep the children safe during a mass murder.
Let’s hear what a mass murder has to say:

“The vendetta you have witnessed today will reverberate throughout every soul in America and will inspire the innocent kids that you have f***** to start a war of vendetta. Millions of deaths and millions of gallons of blood on the street will not quench the avenging phoenix that you have caused us to unleash. Generation after generation, we martyrs, like Eric and Dylan, will sacrifice our lives to f*** you a thousandfold for what you Apostles of Sin have done to us.

Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech mass murderer.

Notice the reference to the Columbine mass murderers one feeding on the next.

This is not a lightening strike, this is a war and the Gun manufacturers are bent on supplying the weapons to the other side.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 4 Sep, 2019 08:50 pm
The Sandy Hook mass murderer killed 28, Adam Lanza, said that, “Everyone knows that mass murderers are the cool kids.” What surprised me is what these mass murderers wrote can be found on line where others like them can access it.

“And like me, there will be others, like Ted Bundy said, we are your sons, brothers, we are everywhere. My advice to others like me is to buy a gun and start killing people. If you say you live in a country like Europe {sic} with strict gun laws, either pay the necessary fees/time to get a license or become a serial killer. The world could always use an additional serial killer. Butcher them in their homes, in the streets wherever you find them. . . Human life means nothing, we are what matters. I hope to inspire the masses with this, at least enough to get their passion aroused. It is my hope that others will hear my call and act out. I was once like you, a loser’ rejected by society.”

Harper-Mercer (killed nine people on Oregon college campus)

All this is available on line and after the teenagers reading it, they will find the gun manufacturers standing there ready to sell them state of the art military assault weapons to carry out their darkest fantasies.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 5 Sep, 2019 09:15 pm
Mass murderers see themselves as victims of society and they use their lives to seek retribution.

“Why the f*** is he being such an ASSH*** (god I guess, whoever is the being which controls sh**) He’s fuc**** me over big time & it pisses me off. Oooh god I Hate my life, I want to die really badly right now let’s see what I have that is good: A nice family, a good house, food, a couple of good friends& possessions. What’s bad—no girls (friends or girlfriends), no other friends except a few, nobody accepting me even though I want to be accepted, me doing badly & being intimidated in any & all sports, me acting weird & acting shy—BIG problem, me getting bad grades, having no ambition of life, that’s the big sh**. Anyway. . .

Dylan Klebold, Columbine mass murderer killed 13 wounded 23
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You can clearly see the evils of believing in religion in Klebold statement. When you believe the universe is run by a fair god would he not distribute, talent, looks, and goods equally? If that doesn’t happen then the poor are victims. The mass murderers see themselves being victimized by an unfair god. Believing in fairytales is just another form of escape, a very dangerous form of escape.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Fri 6 Sep, 2019 08:58 pm
Now Wal Mart, Kroger, CVS, Walgreens, and Wegmans all changed their policy on open carry guns. They will no longer allow customers to openly carry guns in their stores. “The times they are a changing.” The gun nuts have threatened to shop elsewhere but soon there will not be any place else to shop. In the 2018 election the anti-gun lobby out spent the gun manufacturers (NRA) for the first time. Eighteen progun politicians were voted out of office. These are all signs that the gun manufacturers are losing their stranglehold on the government. Wal Mart also stopped selling ammunition for assault weapons and military style pistols. These stores all made their policy change within in hours of each other. This is the tipping point.
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