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House of Reps. member Giffords shot in Arizona today

 
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 08:56 pm
@okie,
we'll take that as a no.

don't let that stop you from offering your opinions on it though, okie...
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:05 pm
@Rockhead,
I'm not sure, Rocky, but being that he's an open minded conservative who has no problem addressing facts, who knows, he may well start.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:14 pm
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
So I take it that you do not enjoy linguistics?
As already answered, no I do not care, and in fact I am surprised to learn that some people do. I had hardly heard of this kind of stuff before it began to be talked about regarding Loughner and his weird questions of the congresswoman, such as "How do you know words mean anything?"

Now, I am finding out that the radical leftist Noam Chomsky guy was into linguistics big time, and that there is some indication that Chomsky was on Loughner's reading list. Do not jump to conclusions, Loughner's one and main problem was mental, but I still find this to be a weird correlation. I think therefore that it needs more psychological study and evaluation by the authorities and/or psychologists looking into this case. Bottom line though, actions are what are accountable.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:16 pm
@okie,
linguistics are indeed very bad okie.

be careful out there...
okie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:18 pm
@Rockhead,
Hey guy, I never said they were bad, I just find studying them intensely and elevating the importance is a bit weird or different.
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okie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:31 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Rockhead wrote:
you don't actually think that okie has read any Chomsky, do you...?
Oh no, are you another Chomsky follower or fan? .............
Question repeated for you, Rockhead, in case you missed it?
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:32 pm
@okie,
I rarely follow anyone okie.

I read whatever strikes me as interesting.

okie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:38 pm
@Rockhead,
Good for you. That is why I listen to talk radio occasionally when it is convenient, such as when I need to pass the time on an auto trip. I have listened to Ed Shultz some lately just to find out how the other side is thinking. Not impressed at all with that bozo. I got started listening to Rush because he was a guy finally making some sense about some issues, and he dug up good info. out of each days news cycle. I am not unlike other Rush listeners, we listen because he says what we already thought about some issues. I don't think any of his listeners agree with him 100% of the time. Or I should say he does not agree with any of us 100% of the time.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:42 pm
@okie,
he scares me 100% of the time...
okie
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 09:57 pm
@Rockhead,
What scares you about him? I have heard him say that certainty of belief scares liberals. Is that what it is, or is it something else?

If you really want to listen to somebody on the conservative side that seems a little far out, I think Michael Savage would be the guy. I do not listen to him, except for short stints to see what he is sounding off about, but have not run across him on the dial for a long time now.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 10:06 pm
@okie,
a combination of insincerity and hatefulness. for profit.

and the fact that a massive number of goobers hang on his every spew.

turns my stomach...
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 10:17 pm
@JTT,
Having met Noam and his delightful wife Carol and being a friend of Noam's personal assistant, I think that okie is all wet. Hmm. Must be standing too close to splish-splash.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 10:19 pm
@okie,
Quote:

Regarding Chomsky, I am not going to engage you about him, as I don't believe he is a credible source for anything


Hmm. Chomsky teaches at MIT, which, as everyone knows, is vastly inferior to the schools okie attended.

Chomsky teaches philosophy and political science and linguistics, of which okie knows all there is to know.

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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 10:27 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Now, I am finding out that the radical leftist Noam Chomsky guy was into linguistics big time


Jeez, everyone else found that out forty years ago. You have my permission to use your dictionary to find out what linguistics is.

I studied linguistics under Calvert Watkins. Perhaps, you can dig up some dirt on him.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 16 Jan, 2011 10:29 pm
@okie,
Quote:
I have listened to Ed Shultz some lately just to find out how the other side is thinking.


How condescending.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2011 04:15 am
Quote:
Tea Party's Trent Humprhries statement on alleged threat by shooting victimPosted: Jan 16, 2011 9:49 PM

ShareShare Rating: 12345 1.0 (1 vote) TUCSON - The events of the ABC townhall broadcast Saturday, January 15th have been widely reported and are mostly accurate. An individual, James Eric Fuller, a victim in the recent and terrible shooting that occurred this past week, interrupted my comments with boos and catcalls before finally shouting, "You're dead!" while taking a picture of me. Believing I had misheard him, I finished my remarks and sat down as the program ended. I was immediately rushed out of the venue by Pima County Sheriff's Deputies without observing Mr. Fuller being detained or removed.

In the parking lot, the deputies asked if I was willing to press charges. Because I had noticed that Fuller was sitting in the front row, I assumed that he was closely involved in last week's tragedy and was reluctant to immediately seek legal recourse. The Deputies relayed to me that even if I chose not to immediately press charges, action would likely be taken anyway due to the high profile nature of the event and the recent events involving the shooter, Jared Loughner. My cooperation would assure that Mr. Fuller could be taken into custody and referred to mental health professionals immediately. This appeared to be the prudent course of action, so I agreed to let the Sheriff's department take Mr. Fuller into custody.

When speaking to detectives later in the day, they again asked about my willingness to press charges. I asked about the status of Mr. Fuller. They confirmed that he had been involuntarily committed and would be under observation for at least 72 hours. I followed up on this because I was concerned that Mr. Fuller would be released before I could file an order of protection (due to the Holiday.)

I am at a conundrum regarding whether or not to file charges. Based on the lessons that we have just learned about past law enforcement contacts with Jared Loughner and how he was never "flagged" because no legal complaints were ever filed, I do believe that care should be taken before dismissing all charges against Mr. Fuller. Additionally, a large portion of the discussion that took place at the town hall involved mental health and making sure that as a community and law enforcement we have adequate care for those with such issues.

It has just come to my attention that a spokesperson for the Sheriff's Department made the following statement on Saturday evening after the town hall, "If Humphries decides not to press charges, the charges will be dropped". At no point was this information ever related to me before the statement was given to the press. I was actually led to believe the opposite. It was my understanding that because of the very public nature of the offense that charges would be filed regardless of my participation. Indeed, it is up to Pima County Prosecutor Barbara Lawall, and not the Sheriff's Department, to decide that charges will be "dropped". Like so much other misinformation reported this past week, the statement from the Sheriff's office would appear to be an error of the press or another grave misunderstanding on the Sheriff''s part.

I have nothing but sadness for the injuries and trauma that Mr Fuller has experienced due to the horrific event that killed several of our community members and left dozens injured. I have been informed through legal counsel that Mr. Fuller cannot be compelled to receive treatment without an ongoing legal complaint or conviction. If he truly is in need of mental health help, I want that to be based on the opinion of experts and our law enforcement professionals and not on whether I am willing to press charges.

It would be very unfortunate if it is true that the decision of how best to proceed with Mr. Fuller is solely mine. I am not adequately prepared to determine whether or not Mr Fuller is a danger to himself or the community. I do not have access to the mental health reports, prior records, interviews, or likely any evidence gathered on Mr. Fuller to this point. Nor am I qualified to determine if he is indeed a danger to the community or himself. Ultimately this is not a decision I feel comfortable making based on my limited experience with this gentleman or the facts I have.

My desire is that Mr. Fuller receive whatever help he needs in order to return as a reasoned member of society that poses no danger to me or my family or anyone else. If my dropping the criminal charges can accomplish that, I am willing and eager to do so. If, however, pressing charges guarantees that he will have the care and observation required to overcome his desire to do me or anyone else harm because of political beliefs, I will proceed with them, such as I can. It is my hope that the Sheriff's Department will work with me to do what is best for Mr. Fuller and act in a manner that will help keep my family and the rest of Pima County's citizens safe.


http://www.kvoa.com/news/tea-party-s-trent-humprhries-statement-on-alleged-threat-by-shooting-victim/

I dont even know where to start with how disgusting and messed up this is, so I will leave it....
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2011 04:22 am
I heard that the shooter read Harry Potter.

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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2011 04:52 am
@failures art,
failures art wrote:
I heard that the shooter read Harry Potter.

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I heard that he read the weather report.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2011 05:21 am
@plainoldme,
Quote:
I think its Plain 's position
that a man is supposed to be helpless, defenseless,
plainoldme wrote:
No, she finds paranoia of your kind childish, annoying, but, worst of all,
a threat to the liberty and safety of all.
Your posts indicate that u do not understand
the words that u use, Plain.

That is HARMLESS, since your side (the anti-freedom side)
has lost the battle in the USSC, but it is sad, as to u.

I rather wish that u were more intelligent, Plain.
I 'd enjoy arguing with u here, if u were able to DO it.





David
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 17 Jan, 2011 06:24 am
@okie,
Savage is a god among men, completely off his head (or meds) and so entertaining, Rush is off his head (or on meds), but not nearly as entertaining (he can have his moments)

sadly all the lib shows are i've ever heard are just deadly dull
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