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House of Reps. member Giffords shot in Arizona today

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 06:21 pm
@spendius,
Whatever...there are still roughly 200 men in prison for the crime of annoying the Cuban government and this is as low as it been for a numbers of years.

spendius
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 06:25 pm
@BillRM,
They must be feeling more secure then.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 06:28 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Did you wake up to change your diaper or to move to a dry easy chair, OM?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 06:34 pm
@spendius,
Your quote: the US Government must not give a **** about complaints. Our's is the same: more or less. We all hope, I'm sure, that no changes will be made.


Yes I do agree that this is what you teach as being the kingdom of heaven! Is this why we need to teach that evolution is false? So that we can keep suppressing the mass?
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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 25 Mar, 2011 07:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

1. Let the record indicate that I do not accept your reasoning
and
2. I believe that the political parties r OK
and
3. We were never a democracy, nor did we claim to be one.






David
I am willing to stipulate that you do not accept any reasoning.... Reasoning is reasoning after all, and unless you can show a problem with the logic, your acceptance is not required...

Your reference to belief in regard to political parties reveals the problem exactly... Certainly, Napoleon would have found it impossible to hold power if the parties were around to beat him behind his back on the political field... But, it was the parties that have been behind the limits on the house of representatives, and there excuse was to make the house managable... Alright; where is the management of government listed as a goal of the constitution??? Show me where that is written, because I would not care if those people engaged in bloodshed on the floor of the house if we should get our needs met... What we have is exactly what the Romans aimed at: Divide et empera.... Those people deny us our rights to responsive government, and they deny us the power of government to do the people's will, and they deny the power of government to meet the goals for which it was created, putting us at each other's throats so that they can be back slapping buddies... Let them kill each other, but give us peace and justice... Give us our country back...

A republic is a commonwealth, and there is no example of one not being the other... And unless the wealth of a country is defended by all, it will be taken by any other people better organized and determined... Thus, the common held wealth reflects a common democracy... Democracy is political equality just as socialism is economic equality... They are two halves to the same coin... You cannot really have one without the other... So, as the commonwealth has been robbed from us, so has our democracy been robbed from us...
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2012 02:27 pm
http://www.freep.com/article/20120122/NEWS07/120122013/Representative-Gabby-Giffords-resigns?odyssey=nav|head

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U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords announced on YouTube today that she is stepping down from Congress, effective this week.

Giffords said in the two-minute long video that she has more work to do on her recovery and wants to do the right thing for Arizona by stepping down to focus on that. She speaks slowly in the video but delivers the message herself.

Jared Loughner, 23, is charged with 49 felonies arising from the Jan. 8, 2011, shootings outside a supermarket near Tucson where Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was meeting with constituents.

Six people died, including a federal judge, a congressional staffer and a 9-year-old girl. Thirteen others were wounded, including Giffords, who was shot in the head.



Fido
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 08:11 am
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:

http://www.freep.com/article/20120122/NEWS07/120122013/Representative-Gabby-Giffords-resigns?odyssey=nav|head

Quote:
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords announced on YouTube today that she is stepping down from Congress, effective this week.

Giffords said in the two-minute long video that she has more work to do on her recovery and wants to do the right thing for Arizona by stepping down to focus on that. She speaks slowly in the video but delivers the message herself.

Jared Loughner, 23, is charged with 49 felonies arising from the Jan. 8, 2011, shootings outside a supermarket near Tucson where Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was meeting with constituents.

Six people died, including a federal judge, a congressional staffer and a 9-year-old girl. Thirteen others were wounded, including Giffords, who was shot in the head.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nguu0TkCTd4[/youtube]

Those people were early casualties in a civil war that no one wants to acknowledge... This country was alway about us against them; everyone choosing up sides, and trying to cut the largest piece of the pie for themselves... The rich are not leaving enough for the poor, and for the poor to demand more is considered insubordination... Let the war begin...
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 08:53 am
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:
http://www.freep.com/article/20120122/NEWS07/120122013/Representative-Gabby-Giffords-resigns?odyssey=nav|head

Quote:
U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords announced on YouTube today that she is stepping down from Congress, effective this week.


That sucks. The country really needed her in the fight to shield NASA from budget cuts. Most politicians (both parties) just don't get it.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 09:40 am
@oralloy,
Yep, Obama has stripped NASA down to nothing... what a tool he is.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 10:48 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
Yep, Obama has stripped NASA down to nothing... what a tool he is.


I wouldn't put the blame on Obama. Rather, it is congressmen (and from both parties) who are the main threat to NASA.

Giffords was the only one of them who ever seemed to get it.
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Fido
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 11:17 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:

Yep, Obama has stripped NASA down to nothing... what a tool he is.
Really??? The way I see it the goverment pays for a lot of research that only benefits the rich who have no respect for it beyond an easy profit, and when they export science technology to places like China which de-engineer what we give them and learn how to make it better, and to defeat what we have, then our capitalists, thinking to exploit them, endanger us...

Why do the research for them in the first place on the public dime and give it to them for next to nothing... It is treason to all this country was formed to achieve to support that worthless class of traitors... Every single capitalist and financier should be hung up by their Achilles tendons until the last cent is shook out of them... Then they should be dropped on their heads and given back to their families to support as best they can, in exactly the same way our old and unemployed are loaded onto us...
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 11:30 am
@H2O MAN,
NASA Budget from 2000 to 2011
Code:
2000 13,428
2001 14,095
2002 14,405
2003 14,610
2004 15,152
2005 15,602
2006 15,125
2007 15,861
2008 17,318
2009 17,782
2010 18,724
2011 19,000


19m Billion is almost Negative 6 billion less than 13.4 billion.

Damn that Obama. He uses negative numbers when he reduces budgets.
failures art
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2012 12:48 pm
@parados,
Hopefully he can bring back Orion.

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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 11:20 am
@failures art,
In Emotional Ceremony, Gabrielle Giffords Resigns From Congress
January 25, 2012
by Eyder Peralta - NPR

Retiring Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. smiles on Capitol Hill in Washington, prior to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address.
Enlarge Susan Walsh/AP

Retiring Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz. smiles on Capitol Hill in Washington, prior to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address.

In an emotional ceremony on the floor of the House of Representatives, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords handed her letter of resignation to Speaker John Boehner.

Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz spoke on the Arizona congresswoman's behalf.

"This is only a pause in her public service," Schultz said with a shaky voice and with tears streaming down her face. Schultz then went on to read Giffords' resignation letter.

The cameras cut to Giffords' husband, the astronaut Mark Kelly, who looked clearly emotional.

In her letter, Giffords said she went from selling tires at her family's Tucson business to Washington, because of her "belief that there is no higher calling than serving my country."

"Always I fought for what I thought was right," she wrote. "But never did I question the character of those with whom I disagreed. Never did I let pass an opportunity to join hands with someone just because he or she held different ideals."

Giffords was shot in the head during a rampage at a meet-and-greet with her constituents, a little more than a year ago. Yesterday, Giffords attended the president's state of the union address and the day before she met with fellow survivors. Giffords announced she was resigning, last week, to concentrate on her recovery.

"Amid all that was lost on January 8th, there was also hope and faith," Giffords wrote in her letter. "This past year, it is what I have often clung to: Hope that our government can represent the best of a nation, not the worst. Faith that Americans working together — in their communities, in our Congress — can succeed without qualification. Hope and faith that even as we are set back by tragedy or profound disagreement, in the end we can come together as Americans to set a course toward greatness."

After Shultz finished reading the letter, Giffords walked up to Speaker Boehner, as the entire chamber gave her a thunderous standing ovation.

Giffords embraced Boehner, who was sobbing, and handed him her resignation letter in a plain manilla envelope.

"Everyday I am working hard," Giffords' letter concludes. "I will recover and I will return, and we will work together again, for Arizona and or all Americans."
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 12:01 pm
I watched the Gabby thing live. It was genuinely nice moment where all the members of congress acted like real human beings. I'm sure it's passed.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 04:18 pm
@blueveinedthrobber,
blueveinedthrobber wrote:

I watched the Gabby thing live. It was genuinely nice moment where all the members of congress acted like real human beings. I'm sure it's passed.


That was super, and is sure to encourage this kind of self absorbed to hell with Democracy behavior in the future. It helps that Congress is so fucked up that most of us no long are so naive as to expect that CongressCriters will do anything useful, so empty chairs and the resulting lack of representation dont matter much.

Three Cheers for the victim! Warm fuzzies all around.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 06:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Three Cheers for the victim! Warm fuzzies all around.

Compassion and empathy and normal human feelings really seem beyond your grasp.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye take note the last law she sponsor/wrote that they pass in her honor is increasing the punishment for being in the informal import business by way of small planes across the US border.

Congress love increasing punishments for crimes and graphing the tend lines I foresee a life term for having a late book out at the Library of Congress in ten years or so.

They must prefer having the largest percents of our citizens in prison then any other advance nation at a direct cost of tens of billions a year and a similar cost in indirect cost then being more sane on the subject.

Lord how many lives they could save and how must taxes they could generated if for example they legalize marijuana nationwide and tax it to the same extend as alcohol !!!!!!


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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 07:47 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
Three Cheers for the victim! Warm fuzzies all around.

Compassion and empathy and normal human feelings really seem beyond your grasp.


I am sorry that she was shot. I am also sorry that she choose to make at least one very poor decision after she was shot.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 25 Jan, 2012 08:21 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

firefly wrote:

Quote:
Three Cheers for the victim! Warm fuzzies all around.

Compassion and empathy and normal human feelings really seem beyond your grasp.


I am sorry that she was shot. I am also sorry that she choose to make at least one very poor decision after she was shot.
A GOP Congressman woud have been more likely
to be surrounded by defensively ARMED constituents.





David
 

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