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House of Reps. member Giffords shot in Arizona today

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:10 pm
@reasoning logic,
It is. Perhaps I inflected it unconsciously as if I was asked the question in the pub with a subtle tone of admonition. "are you" rising to a squeak of outrage.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:17 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I would be dismayed to learn Dave that my posts are incomprehensible to everybody. That they are to you is something I can do nothing about. And likewise with others who express similar views about them.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:26 pm
This exchange marks one of the rare times I agree with david. We are not alone. Several people have commented on your poor ability to write coherently and well.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:29 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
I would be dismayed to learn Dave that my posts are incomprehensible to everybody.
I do not purport to speak for EVERYBODY. I did not take a survay to ascertain
how many of us find u comprehensible.



spendius wrote:
That they are to you is something I can do nothing about. And likewise with others who express similar views about them.
U can be simple, direct and to the point.
If u use local colloquialisms, or slang, the chance of becoming incomprehensible increases.
It woud do u as much good to use Japanese code.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:34 pm
@plainoldme,
But "several people" are not the lot. And they all have a subjective reason for saying the things they do. That stuff means nothing to me pom. Do try to remember that.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:35 pm
@spendius,
In what part of England r u ?
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:36 pm
@spendius,
How many more than several does it take to make a lot?
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:41 pm
@spendius,
I haven't counted the complaints about your writing style: I simply noticed them. With an ego the size of yours, I am certain a statement signed by the entire membership of this forum would mean nothing to you.
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:49 pm
@plainoldme,
Fat chance of that. I have fans you know.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 03:59 pm
@plainoldme,
I do not mean to be mean but if I were to speak empirical Which I try to refrain from, I would say that we should respect and except the view points that Spendius shares, because me and you very well may have grandchildren with the same neurological or psychological makeup as Spendius and he the same in reverse.

He may have grandchildren that share the same concepts that you and I may find logical.

All that I am trying to say is love your neighbor for they know not what they do!

If you were brought up in a cannibal tribe you would be considered to have a psychological problem if you did not go along with what was taught by your environment {eating other people} according to psychologist!


plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:07 pm
@reasoning logic,
Reasoning . . . your logic must have taken a nap with that one.

I actually do have spendius on ignore. However, I generally read the posts authored by people I have on ignore, unless a third party comments on such posts and makes their contents known to me. Why, then, do I use ignore? Because it makes opening a thread pleasant and allows me to prepare for (in this case) the drivel that is present.

I somehow feel Spendius has no grandchildren, or children, the prerequisite.

And, it is totally illogical to respect a point of view that is baseless at best.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:13 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
I am certain a statement signed by the entire membership of this forum would mean nothing to you.


Of what import could that possibly have? I'm dismayed by the number of Americans, though always spouting platitudes about the importance of the free flow of ideas, who come up with this type of crap.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:35 pm
@JTT,
The point is that spendius has no ideas and that people here complain about the quality of his prose. Perhaps, if his prose were at least orderly then we might find ideas.

As for the sentence that you elected to quote, put it in context or you will be accused of not having ideas.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:41 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
As for the sentence that you elected to quote, put it in context or you will be accused of not having ideas.


Yeah, that will really keep me up nights.
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Ceili
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 05:48 pm
Getting back to the case at hand... while watching CNN yesterday, they interviewed Giffords doctor. He said they would be reinsurting part of her skull back this week, it was removed to stem the pressure on her brain. Now I'm wondering how long the skull bones or any bone for that matter can be kept seperate from the body. The skull has many blood vessels, wouldn't they die or collapse?
Does anyone have any info on this? Just curious, thanks.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 06:00 pm
@Ceili,
Very intellectual of you in my opinion if you plan on being a neuro-surgeon!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 13 Mar, 2011 06:46 pm
@Ceili,
I found the following which might be relevant.

Quote:
Neurosurgical Review

Cranioplasty with bone flaps preserved under the scalp

Journal ArticleCatcher's mask cranioplasty for extensive cranial defects in children with an open head trauma: a novel application of partial cranioplastyIchiro Takumi

Cranial bone defects in 27 patients were repaired with bone flaps preserved under the scalp. Head trauma (thirteen patients), cerebrovascular disorder (five patients), postoperative brain swelling (seven patients), and cerebral infective disease (two patients) accounted for the cranial defects. The bone flaps are reimplanted after 14–98 days. The follow-up period was 6 to 26 months. We have encountered no complications releated to this technique in 27 consecutive cases.
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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 06:03 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

This exchange marks one of the rare times I agree with david. We are not alone. Several people have commented on your poor ability to write coherently and well.
Communication is both a two way street and a form of relationship... No one ever understands another without the desire to do so, and even with the desire it is often difficult... And, if you do not like what you think you hear, then blowing some one off and saying they cannot be understood is about the easiest thing in the world...

Just consider, that only those wars where people could have and should have been able to understand each other and so avert their violence ever truly rise to the level of tragedies... Look at the Iliad, or our American Civil War... People could understand, but they chose not to because they thought that to kill was so much easier than compromise... As usual; many of the chiefs survived where many of the grunts did not... So in that sense, they were proved right, that to fight is better than to listen... If we think hard enough, we may be able to realize that no bar to communication is ever so great that it cannot be surmounted... We already know what most people really need to make a deal, and to have peace...And we know this to the extent that we know what we really need, since people are little different... It is in the perception of possible gain that people lose their hearing and sight and sense...
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 06:09 am
@Ceili,
Ceili wrote:

Getting back to the case at hand... while watching CNN yesterday, they interviewed Giffords doctor. He said they would be reinsurting part of her skull back this week, it was removed to stem the pressure on her brain. Now I'm wondering how long the skull bones or any bone for that matter can be kept seperate from the body. The skull has many blood vessels, wouldn't they die or collapse?
Does anyone have any info on this? Just curious, thanks.
They are going to put a little plate on her head with hinges and a latch just like the hood of an automobile, so they can check the oil and water and attitude periodically... It is not good to get shot in the head, you know... That is one reason the line for that service is usually short... Too bad just that would improve so many people in government and business...
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 18 Mar, 2011 06:15 am
@Fido,
pom, Fido, apes water. She chooses the easiest path on every occasion. She simply assumes that if she doesn't understand something, or, more likely, doesn't wish to, nobody else can understand it. The condition is usually caused by an inability to imagine anyone more intelligent than herself combined with a stubborn rejection of any challenges to the positions she has become fixated with. Those are dismissed with charges of incoherence and faults in style without any evidence offered to justify such charges.

I feel sorry for "her students". Whoever it was who unleashed her on them has a great deal to answer for.

 

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