North Korea: What to do?

See also,

US Genocide in Korea

http://able2know.org/topic/165092-1

I've been following but probably haven't read every post. Is there any pattern (not to disclose stuff) of people going north to talk with the population? I figure that is wildly off base as a possibility of being useful in any way, but just wondering.

Ionus, I 've already pointed out before that JTT is not able to reason.
In fact, he has repudiated logic.

I don 't know what he said, but apparently, it is nonsense.

For that reason, I put him on Ignore.
U can continue to process his mindless foolishness, if u believe that 's helpful.





David

It seems that there were about four pivotal moments in your life, Sig. I want to hear the one of how you were seduced as a teenager, for the umpteenth time.

You inhuman monster !!! ALL his caviar ????

A. U.S. Crimes against the people of Korea are best examined when divided into three chronological periods.

1. First is the period between September 8, 1945 when U.S. troops landed at Inchon to June 25, 1950 when major continuous warfare between the US supported ROK and the DPRK broke out. Offenses in this period are primarily crimes against peace and crimes against humanity.

The most harmful political offense was the artificial division of Korea at the 38th parallel and hermetic sealing of the north, which has almost completely separated families, friends, organizations, communications, trade and commerce, with disastrous social, economic and cultural consequences against the will of the vast majority of the Korean people who until that time were the most homogenous people on earth racially, culturally, ethnically and linguistically. The division of Korea directly caused the repression, war and violence that followed. Most divided families have not seen or talked with each other in 55 years.

Offenses committed involved the systematic murder of masses of people in towns and villages thought to be communist, socialist or sympathetic to the people of northern Korean or the DPRK. There were widespread assassinations in cities and towns of individuals or groups considered leftist, including peasant and labor leaders, writers, editors, professors and intellectuals.

There were large-scale arrests, torture, murders and deaths among several hundred thousand prisoners held in cruel, inhuman and degrading conditions. Thousands of political prisoners died in prison, many hundreds spent thirty to forty years, or more, in prison.

There were systematic cross demilitarized zone (DMZ) raids, shelling and assaults by aircraft and helicopters. This conduct was actively caused, supported and condoned by U.S. military and intelligence participation, training and direction. Several hundred thousand Koreans died as a result of these crimes.

http://www.iacenter.org/Koreafiles/ktc_indictment.htm

Here is a very typical piece of propaganda that JoinTalibanTerrorism has swallowed without wiping her chin.

I bet she doesnt even see the bias in that post, having swallowed every piece of anti-USA bullshit she has ever been exposed to.

So, JoinTalibanTerrorism, do you see any bias in that post ?

Obviously North Vietnam, North Korea, Al Quada, The Taliban, Iran, hell anyone who hates the USA is a staunch supporter of democracy. Why dont you go to North Korea and insult the Glorious Leader and then rely on the Rule of Law to save your dumb arse. Go to Iran and tell them they are against Democracy and see how democratically they treat you.

You are psychotic.

GENOCIDE ???? You wouldnt want to overuse words to exagerate your case would you ? North Korea nearly starves its citizens to death and you say nothing. What a clown.

Yes, I agree with you Dave, she is obsessed.

Although I know some people do that, I never will. Exposure to ALL arguments, even the pathetically stupid, is the only way for me to maintain an accurate opinion rather than just read what agrees with me.

2. Second is the period from June 1950 until the end of major armed hostilities at the Armistice of July 27, 1953. Offenses in this period are characterized by war crimes. On the ground, U.S. forces and ROK forces with U.S. encouragement and training attacked and killed civilians in all parts of Korea. The recent public disclosure of deliberate attacks on civilians in the first days of the war at a place called No Gun-ri, illustrate the nature of many attacks from the ground and the air. Cities, towns, and villages were devastated by artillery, aerial bombardment and fire which destroyed most buildings and dwellings in large communities of northern Korea. The use of illegal weapons and biological and chemical warfare caused conditions calculated to destroy a major part of the population. Excessive and illegal force was used against northern Korea combatants and prisoners by U.S. forces.

It is estimated that 3,000,000 Korean civilians in the north and 500,000 in the south died from war related causes. The northern Koreans are estimated to have suffered 640,000 battle deaths and 400,000 non-combat deaths from disease and other causes directly attributed to the war. The southern Korean military is estimated to have had 70,000 battle deaths. The total estimated Korean civilian death toll related to the three-year war is 3,500,000 and Korean military deaths related to the war is 1,110,000 for a total of 4,610,000 Korean deaths according to the Encyclopedia Britannica 1967 edition, Vol. 13, p.475.

[Ibid]

Of course you dont understand. I knew it would be above you. What do you read that says the USA is NOT a war criminal ? What do you read that says there are other war criminals in the world ? Nothing. Your opinion is based on your opinion and we can see what that is worth.

You must be fun to have as a neighbour. I bet you walk around mutering about cutting breasts off of women and putting hand grenades in babies mouths (somewhat physically awkward, but in your mind a reality) and cutting faces off of people.....this would be a barrel of laughs right up till you start to masturbate then it would just be creepy...

Still I am glad misery and suffering has given you something to live for....if the Vietnam War ends your sanity is fucked.....oh wait....

More accurate opinions from Private Benjamin.

Except for official channels, you mean? If that happens, it's covert, as it would land someone in prison. Missionaries do go to NE China to try to help defectors, and they do spread the news about the better conditions in the South (and the rest of the world). Aiding defectors is illegal in China, though, so people who do try to help are often arrested and deported.

Official channels do include certain businessmen and sometimes workers at the Kaesong Industrial Complex, but their interaction with the locals is tightly monitored and restricted. There are some anti-North groups who float helium baloons over the DMZ (when the wind is right). The balloons carry propaganda and money to the North. No idea how effective they are, though.

Sorry. I got carried away.

:this:

Did you find the information in post # 4,438,597 interesting, FBM? It explained what I have been telling you all along. The problem, the major problem, is the USA. It has been right from the very beginning.

It's a damn good thing though that there wasn't the will among the NKs in 1953, like there was among the Vietnamese because given the nature of the times, the relative secrecy and silence, the lack of any effective press in the US, had the NKs pushed the effort, the American may well have slaughtered them all.

THREE MILLION KOREANS died in the north compared to only 500,000 thousand in the south. And we still don't know how many of those the US killed.

Explain ??

Ah. Sorry, we don't have that smiley. "This". Emphatic agreement about what you said about putting JTT on Ignore.