@Finn dAbuzz,
I'm happy I don't know what's going on in Ignore-land.
Yeah, within 5 is my bet, too.
@cicerone imposter...
They definitley don't give a rat's ass about their own people, but it's a bit of an exaggeration to say that everyone's starving. Recent videos out of the North (some smuggled out) seem to show that most people are managing to scrape together basic foodstuffs, at least. Still, I've little doubt that many are starving in the countryside where cameras haven't been able to reach yet. The human rights and basic freedom issues are ever-present, too.