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Okie knows farming

 
 
okie
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:34 pm
@okie,
To be accurate, as I have already said, if parados had actually done most of the process of handling the milking machines with the cows, or if he had said he had "helped milk the cows," or "helped with the milking," I would have given him a pass on it, but he said
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"I milked cows twice a day from the age of 7 to about 16. I planted corn, wheat and baled hay. Which of those did you do on the farm you grew up on?"
Normally, this would not be any issue, but parados specifically started this thread, I think for the purpose of trying to discredit me as a conservative on this forum. Perhaps he considered it a project for him. Therefore, I am not going to give him a pass on this, because I think it is his credibility instead that needs to be looked at. I am wondering now if he has made the whole thing up, although it might be possible that he grew up on the farm as he claims. Anything is possible, but I am not being dishonest when I say I am now pretty skeptical. He also has claimed he baled hay with his brother when they were about ages 8 and 10 or something. Frankly, I find some of his claims a bit tall, and I think some of this is kind of revealing in regard to one of the most prolific liberal posters on this forum.
Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:37 pm
@okie,
Don't you ever get tired of the whole liberal/conservative angle? It gets old really fast.
okie
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:38 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

I can safely say that I have never participated in milking done by hand, Ive helped my AMISH neighbor who milks a herd of about 65 cows and he was recuperating from surgery. I helped another bunch of AMISH guys in the milking. My entire job was the disinfection and transfer piping and post milk disinfection. Wed do about 12 cows at a time. I ponce tried hand milking and I got nothing to come out. I could have bought her dinner and she wouldnt drop it. ANother guy came along and BAM , she loved his touch.

I could never be interesetd in running a dairy herd, you never get a day off!!.

My Irish Dexters and symmentals are all I need.Im a meatatarian.
I hear ya, farmer. Milking cows is not easy. One old cow that I had to deal with, she would wait until the bucket was at least half full and then kick it over. I could not get kickers to work, so my method was to lay a loop of rope on the ground before she went to the stantion, then I would draw the loop up and tie it to the back of the barn. She could try to kick, but she couldn't get to the bucket. She got wise to the rope, but invariably the lure of rolled molasses with oats in the stantion was enough to get her to go in there.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:41 pm
@okie,
molasses and corn and oats--what animal can ressist?
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okie
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:43 pm
@Ceili,
Ceili wrote:
Don't you ever get tired of the whole liberal/conservative angle? It gets old really fast.
Good question. Yes, I get tired of it, but to be honest, those two philosophies are what almost every political issue revolves around, so it is highly pertinent and will stay that way. If you are truly interested in politics, I think you will or at least should also try to understand the underlying motivations and principles that drive liberalism and conservatism.
Ceili
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 12:46 pm
@okie,
I'm interested in politics and thanks for the advice, but seriously, what does milking a cow or baling hay as a child or otherwise have to do with liberal or conservative policies.
When I milked a cow or a goat, trust me, I wasn't asking them for advice on who to vote for...
okie
 
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Reply Fri 10 Dec, 2010 01:09 pm
@Ceili,
It does seem an odd subject here, Ceili, but somehow this subject got going on the Obama thread, I think because parados had an issue with some things I had said about farming, as related to other things political. He then started this thread, I think to try to discredit me, as is evident by the title he chose for this thread. parados and I go back a ways on several threads, with him arguing the Democratic or liberal line, and with me being a distractor of his, as I am staunchly and proudly conservative.

So in the process of him attacking my credibility, he made this statement about his claimed childhood farm experience.
parados wrote:
I milked cows twice a day from the age of 7 to about 16. I planted corn, wheat and baled hay. Which of those did you do on the farm you grew up on?
I found that to be questionable, especially in light of the fact that until he came out recently as supposedly growing up on a farm, I had not previously ever read anything about that in any of his posts. I admit I don't remember everything written, but I think I would have remembered it.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 04:30 pm
@okie,
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I go back a ways on several threads, with him arguing the Democratic or liberal line, and with me being a distractor of his


I guess I should start a thread titled... "okie knows English real good."


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dis·tract·er also dis·trac·tor (d-strktr)
n.
One of the incorrect answers presented as a choice in a multiple-choice test.

I can agree with you that you are an incorrect answer okie but then that comes from being a conservative I guess.
parados
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 04:39 pm
@okie,
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I admit I don't remember everything written, but I think I would have remembered it.
We know that okie. You will argue for months that you didn't say something that you obviously did. And you will call anyone that says you said it a liar and demand they apologize for telling the lies. Then when you are shown your own words you still want to weasel out of it. And now when you argue something I didn't say, you want to play the weasel again. This should be titled the "okie is always right even when okie is wrong" thread.

I started this thread for the humor and to move it off the thread it was occupying.

Even funnier was I was at a party last week and several people started comparing how they grew up on farms. Driving trucks at 8 when they couldn't see over the steering wheel was mentioned as a common experience. These were all women so even farm girls were better farm kids than you were okie.
okie
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 09:15 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

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I admit I don't remember everything written, but I think I would have remembered it.
We know that okie. You will argue for months that you didn't say something that you obviously did. And you will call anyone that says you said it a liar and demand they apologize for telling the lies. Then when you are shown your own words you still want to weasel out of it. And now when you argue something I didn't say, you want to play the weasel again. This should be titled the "okie is always right even when okie is wrong" thread.
Mr. Splitting hairs parados, I was essentially correct in what I said. After I called you out on the fact that you probably didn't milk cows at the age of 7 as you claimed, you were the one that weaseled out of it by claiming you didn't do it all by yourself, that you did other things like feed the cows, pour the milk through the strainer, and so forth, so my recollection was essentially correct when I remembered you saying you helped by washing the strainer or "something like that." So it is you that lied, parados, admit it. You fed the cows, poured milk, and related stuff, but admit it, you did not milk the cows.
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I started this thread for the humor and to move it off the thread it was occupying.
Sure sure, parados, and you milked cows from the age of 7, and you baled hay too before you were 10, we know now all about what you supposedly did.
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Even funnier was I was at a party last week and several people started comparing how they grew up on farms. Driving trucks at 8 when they couldn't see over the steering wheel was mentioned as a common experience. These were all women so even farm girls were better farm kids than you were okie.
People in Oklahoma were smart enough not to let their 8 year old kids drive trucks, parados. What kind of other tall tales do you have for us now? I do agree with you on one thing, this thread is humorous, because it is becoming a real hoot to read some of your claims. Keep it up. Your farming claims are about as incredible and funny as some of your political claims. Add to what you have already written:
http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1855#post-4413425
parados wrote:
I milked cows twice a day from the age of 7 to about 16. I planted corn, wheat and baled hay. Which of those did you do on the farm you grew up on?
Oh, and here is another of parados's claims:
http://able2know.org/topic/71145-1855#post-4414176
parados wrote:
My older brother and I were baling hay when we were 9 and 10. One driving the tractor and the other stacking bales.

JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 10:15 pm
@parados,
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I guess I should start a thread titled... "okie knows English real good."


It didn't raise red flags for a lot of people, Parados, I guess everyone. You know why that is. Because the only way possible for a word to get a new meaning or for a new word to be coined is for native speakers to do it.

Okie is as entitled as Shakespeare or anyone else to coin new words and develop new meanings. But here, he didn't do that; the meaning is the same as the dictionary entry, which again, illustrates how Okie was following the natural rules of English.

He took the verb 'distract' and he made it into a noun, again following the rules of his native language, English.

Do you happen to know of a different method where new words are brought into the English language other than by native speakers? If you do, I'd sure like to hear about it.
2PacksAday
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 11:44 pm
@JTT,
I just thought Okie meant to say/write ...Detractor

Edit: as in someone who argues with you/tries to weaken your viewpoint.
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2010 11:50 pm
@2PacksAday,
He may well have, 2PaD. Only Okie can tell us that. Certainly the other fits the situation.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 07:52 am
@okie,
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People in Oklahoma were smart enough not to let their 8 year old kids drive trucks, parados.

Of course people in Oklahoma are smart okie. You live there so that is enough evidence for you.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 07:55 am
@JTT,
Except your explanation doesn't make any sense JTT.

Distractor as "one who distracts" would mean okie's purpose is to distract me. Since okie posts his own opinions claiming it is fact, it would make it unlikely that his purpose is to distract anyone.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 10:44 am
@parados,
parados and I go back a ways on several threads, with him arguing the Democratic or liberal line, and with me being a distractor of his [arguments], as I am staunchly and proudly conservative.

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Except your explanation doesn't make any sense JTT. Distractor as "one who distracts" would mean okie's purpose is to distract me. Since okie posts his own opinions claiming it is fact, it would make it unlikely that his purpose is to distract anyone.


It makes perfect sense. You've shown that with the definition that you've noted and you've described a situation wherein it certainly can occur, and as we all know, does occur.

You want to lay claim to being the ultimate distractor instead of a person who focuses on the facts, keep on posting.

You made a bogus claim about language, Parados, and now that you've been called on it you try to distract attention away from the original issue. Have you a noun that would describe such a person?
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okie
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 03:03 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Except your explanation doesn't make any sense JTT.
Distractor as "one who distracts" would mean okie's purpose is to distract me. Since okie posts his own opinions claiming it is fact, it would make it unlikely that his purpose is to distract anyone.
Actually, 2PacksADay is correct. I meant to say detractor. In trying to post quickly, I typed in the wrong word, but as JTT has pointed out, the word "distractor" also applies to some extent. As a matter of fact, I recall noticing it and attempted to edit the post, but by then, another edit was not allowed. I don't know if the allowance to edit is based upon time elapsed or number of edits already made? It is not uncommon for me to edit my posts, and I did notice I had written "distractor" instead of "detractor" as I had meant to say. I did know the difference in definitions of those words at the time I posted, but just wrote the wrong word. It doesn't seem like a big deal to me anyway, as I think most reasonable people got the meaning of what I wrote. Leave it up to you, parados, to nitpick about it, however.
okie
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 03:11 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
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People in Oklahoma were smart enough not to let their 8 year old kids drive trucks, parados.
Of course people in Oklahoma are smart okie. You live there so that is enough evidence for you.
Most people are smart enough, whether they live in Oklahoma or not, to keep their 8 year old kids from driving cars and trucks. I also think all reasonable people would not allow their 8 and 10 year olds to bale hay as well, as you are now claiming you and your brother baled hay at that age. Simple observation and common sense told most farmers what would be safe.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 04:12 pm
@okie,
having an 8 year old on a tractor handling a baler is really dumb. Many fatalities happened around here when that happened (Some of the AMish still let their kids drive their metal wheeled tractors at young ages).
It isnt a sign of anything but dumbness on behalf of the parents. Even if the 8 year old could handle the tractor, the attachments and hydraulics were never designed for little arm reaches. Id like to see a kid take up the tensioner on a baler without inviting disaster
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 04:22 pm
@okie,
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Leave it up to you, parados, to nitpick about it, however.

Leave it up to you to not find humor in your mistake.

I realized it was a mistake on your part okie. I just found the slip to be rather Freudian in that the word you used means you are the wrong answer. I found humor in that you always think you are the right answer but your statement is the opposite. Surely you can see the humor in that.
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