Friends don't let friends fat-talk

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Coming soon to a college campus near you: a ban on "fat talk." Okay, so the ban is voluntary — and temporary — but it's designed to get students to think about the psychological effect of even seemingly innocuous comments like "Omigosh, you look so good — have you lost weight?"

Starting Oct. 18, thousands of young adults on at least 35 campuses will participate in Fat-Talk Free Week, a national campaign to eliminate language damaging to students' body image. The initiative's motto: "Friends don't let friends fat-talk." Participants learn, for example, that when a gal pal asks if those jeans make her butt look big, the best answer may be to persuade her not to ask the question at all.

The anti-fat talk campaign is designed first to help people identify the "thin ideal" — essentially a pre-pubescent girl's body, plus boobs — that is perpetuated by the media and pop culture, and then learn how to reject it in favor of a healthier, more realistic attitude

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2025345,00.html?hpt=T2#ixzz12Mp1fez9

The social engineering programs powered by pressuring individuals to conform to the party line never end, they just get worse. I am sure that an indepth study of the Nazi tactics was made in preparation. Policing of speech and images will correct every perceived social ill.....right?

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@hawkeye10,

The problem is the bovine hormones fed to animals used by factory farms which has contributed to obesity. These factory farms produce cheap meat ut unhealthy animals thus the excessive use of anti-biotics and vitamins. The uncontrolled faeces, enclosed space and overcrowding is not healthy for animals. They are susceptible to airborne diseases.

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@talk72000,

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The problem is the bovine hormones fed to animals used by factory farms which has contributed to obesity

What do social prohibitions on speaking of body fat contribute towards a solution to the problem?

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@hawkeye10,

The corporations are shifting the blame to individual acts when it is their unethical activity that is the cause of the problem. I see that a lot.

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@talk72000,

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The corporations are shifting the blame to individual acts when it is their unethical activity that is the cause of the problem.

or are we rather blaming individuals, holding individuals responsible, for alleged problems that they can not as individuals change/fix?.....because I see that a lot.

I still however dont see where communication policing solves or even addresses problems. Where I come from good amount of quality of communication is considered necessary for good human functioning, so why the censorship?

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How is this "policing" speech hawkeye? People are volunteering to not use this kind of language. There is no reason that people must use that kind of language, so why the hell do you care if people challenge themselves to not use it?

I used to say "retard" a lot, but I don't anymore. It's the same thing. Many people challenge themselves to use less defamatory speech. You're free to be a crass boor, nobody is policing you. You aren't entitled to approval. Deal with it.

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@failures art,

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There is no reason that people must use that kind of language, so why the hell do you care if people challenge themselves to not use it?

I don't HAVE to do anything but die, so your argument goes nowhere. I object almost always for costs being imposed upon the speaking of truth, and nearly as often when costs are exacted for speaking as we will regardless of the subject. I objected to communication controls long before we got to "lookism", but as we get further into nutso land I expect many more people to join me in my objections.

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@failures art,

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I used to say "retard" a lot, but I don't anymore. It's the same thing. Many people challenge themselves to use less defamatory speech

You conveniently missed the point that this program is all about trying to pressure OTHER people into a certain behaviour.

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@hawkeye10,

Good grief, you are for say anything you want or do anything you want aren't you? You want it to be legal for adults to view child porn, you want the rape laws changed so men aren't really held responsible, and now you want it to be socially acceptable to be a jackass and just say anything to another person even if it might hurt someone's feelings.

What a guy! Drunk

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@Arella Mae,

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and now you want it to be socially acceptable to be a jackass and just say anything to another person even if it might hurt someone's feelings.

this is about a pressure group which is trying to make something that is currently socially acceptable no longer so. As usual you completely fail to grasp the situation.

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@hawkeye10,

I didn't misunderstand a thing. People are trying to get across how "fat talk" can be harmful and you don't give a flip whether it's harmful or not. Failures asked you how it was policing speech, so, no, I didn't misunderstand it.

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@Arella Mae,

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People are trying to get across how "fat talk" can be harmful

when did humans get to be so like fine china? In that case the first order of business should be to toughen people up, because life is no rose garden. We were kicked out of Eden long ago, it is time to adjust to the new reality.

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@hawkeye10,

Boy, that beak really makes yer head look fat hawkeye

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@hawkeye10,

Isn't the purpose of discussing body fat to make people conform to society's view of body image?

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@engineer,

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Isn't the purpose of discussing body fat to make people conform to society's view of body image?

In part, which is fine. Sometimes too we just want to make a person feel good by giving them a compliment. These nuts are getting us to the point where just about any proposed compliment is to be ruled offensive. Think about that for 30 seconds....compliments are increasingly deemed as offensive.....think about the twists in logic required to get to this result!

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

You conveniently missed the point that this program is all about trying to pressure OTHER people into a certain behaviour.

Something like you do on most threads that deal with your obsessions?

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@Intrepid,

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Something like you do on most threads that deal with your obsessions

I am much to much a libertarian for that criticism to apply to me. I want people to be whole and free so that they can make up their own mind to sacrifice of themselves for the collective good. I have no interest in manipulation, the police state, dishonest discourse, or enforced deprivation of individual rights. I also have no interest in coddling people, as this is the road to ruin and we have already gone too far down it.

Life is messy. Humans are not all sugar and spice. You people who constantly try to run over other people in your efforts to create your fantasy inhumane world here on Earth disgust me.

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@hawkeye10,

Your disgust is moot given your leanings. If you are against dishonest discourse, you should stop posting all together.

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@Intrepid,

He has a lot of nerve saying anyone else is inhumane when he is the one that wants to make child porn legal.

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